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Insurers Push Plans That Limit Health Choices - 7/18/2010 4:47:28 PM   
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Insurers Push Plans That Limit Health Choices

As the White House begins to enact the new national health care law, the biggest insurers are promoting plans with lower premiums that allow fewer doctors and hospitals.

The tradeoff, they say, is that more Americans will be asked to pay higher prices for the privilege of choosing or keeping their own doctors if they are outside the new networks. That could come as a surprise to many who remember the repeated assurances from President Obama and other officials that consumers would retain a variety of health-care choices.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/18/business/18choice.html?_r=5

At Haro Bicycle in Vista, Calif., Joe Hawk, president, and Peter Skoda, controller. Facing a possible 35 percent hike in rates, the company offers its employees a limited-choice health plan.
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RE: Insurers Push Plans That Limit Health Choices - 7/18/2010 4:57:15 PM   
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RE: Insurers Push Plans That Limit Health Choices - 7/18/2010 5:07:36 PM   
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RE: Insurers Push Plans That Limit Health Choices - 7/18/2010 5:22:25 PM   
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when that was dropped it made the whole industry into an HMO.

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RE: Insurers Push Plans That Limit Health Choices - 7/18/2010 8:51:20 PM   
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RE: Insurers Push Plans That Limit Health Choices - 7/18/2010 9:26:41 PM   
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RE: Insurers Push Plans That Limit Health Choices - 7/18/2010 10:12:52 PM   
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What's the issue?  Shouldn't the stuff available for free, have fewer frills than the other stuff?


I am surprised to read this coming from you Steven.

What are the frills? certain medications? seeing a specialist? getting a second opinion? actually getting a hospital bed?
would no frills eventually mean asking those with the no frills tract to consider euthanasia when facing long term, chronic and/or expensive medical care?

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RE: Insurers Push Plans That Limit Health Choices - 7/18/2010 11:48:04 PM   
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would no frills eventually mean asking those with the no frills tract to consider euthanasia when facing long term, chronic and/or expensive medical care?


No, thats not no frills, thats single payer

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RE: Insurers Push Plans That Limit Health Choices - 7/19/2010 6:48:49 AM   
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would no frills eventually mean asking those with the no frills tract to consider euthanasia when facing long term, chronic and/or expensive medical care?


No, thats not no frills, thats single payer


I don't know what the answer is, but I really would like to see detailed information on "no frills" health care policies.
Maybe instead of anesthesia, they will go back to the old days of making you drink whiskey and just tying you down.


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RE: Insurers Push Plans That Limit Health Choices - 7/19/2010 9:02:15 AM   
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would no frills eventually mean asking those with the no frills tract to consider euthanasia when facing long term, chronic and/or expensive medical care?


No, thats not no frills, thats single payer


I don't know what the answer is, but I really would like to see detailed information on "no frills" health care policies.
Maybe instead of anesthesia, they will go back to the old days of making you drink whiskey and just tying you down.



There is no such thing as "no frills" health care policies. Its a disparaging description of policies with limited network providers and extremely punitive out of network reimbursement. The policy holder gets the same services as any other policy, just from a more restricted network.

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