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Archer -> RE: Racist Tea Party Signs You Won`t See On TV (7/19/2010 3:48:31 PM)
The liberals (here online in blogs and in the media including that outright admission that the tactic would be a good thing to do) bring forth the signs from the margins and report on them as if the tea party is welcoming them with open arms. That part is what I lay at the liberals feet. Without the reporting as if they were a large part the numbers would be less. Any big party is going to be crashed by folks you'd rather not have at the party. Did FOX and some of their folks and some others capitalize on the movement and as such give it both more power and less focus certainly. Owner My Quote "a few of the african signs crossed the line. a couple other folks I saw sure they crossed that line. So your Kenyan thing fits the ones I said crossed the line you duffus a few of them in fact especially the ones where they had the african dress and paint etc. I cited at least half a dozen of certain types that I felt crossed the line, the Hitler one? Nope it's dumb and it crosses Godwin's Law but really that was a comparison of stateist ideology. Those are bad examples of someone trying to make the national socialist connection stick to President Obama. I buy the Stateist ideology, but I would say the Hitler references fall short of their intent. (you have to buy context dependence to see it that way) But to make it a racist sign you have to dismiss the entire context of them calling Obama socialist, and drawing the line from that socialism to Hitler's socialism, and the socialist charge is very common with the tea party folks.

Jeffff -> RE: Racist Tea Party Signs You Won`t See On TV (7/19/2010 3:57:37 PM)
I would feel more comfortable with them if there were any reported instances of others at the rally's shouting them down or shunning them. Yes I know how the media goes, ALL media. There is stil an ugly undercurrent to this that was not present towards GWB . I don't like it. It is the Tea Party's responsibility to police themselves. If they don't care for how they are being portrayed, they should take steps to correct it. Not just the racist signs, but the stupid ones too. This is no different than WTO protestors being made to look like thugs by a few nutbags.

thishereboi -> RE: Racist Tea Party Signs You Won`t See On TV (7/20/2010 6:08:31 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 Given the fact that these signs have been seen on various news reports, and the fact that the Tea Party movement has shown a racist tendency, do you really expect anything different. The Tea Party is for White Anglo Saxon America. If you aint white then you dont count. So you are saying Biden is a liar or stupid? Which is it?

rulemylife -> RE: Racist Tea Party Signs You Won`t See On TV (7/20/2010 6:14:32 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Archer The liberals (here online in blogs and in the media including that outright admission that the tactic would be a good thing to do) bring forth the signs from the margins and report on them as if the tea party is welcoming them with open arms. That part is what I lay at the liberals feet. Without the reporting as if they were a large part the numbers would be less. Any big party is going to be crashed by folks you'd rather not have at the party. Then for God's sake own up to it and discredit those people. The silence from within the teabagger movement is deafening.

RacerJim -> RE: Racist Tea Party Signs You Won`t See On TV (7/20/2010 6:31:30 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: Archer The liberals (here online in blogs and in the media including that outright admission that the tactic would be a good thing to do) bring forth the signs from the margins and report on them as if the tea party is welcoming them with open arms. That part is what I lay at the liberals feet. Without the reporting as if they were a large part the numbers would be less. Any big party is going to be crashed by folks you'd rather not have at the party. Then for God's sake own up to it and discredit those people. The silence from within the teabagger movement is deafening. The silence from within the overtly racist NAACP, the overtly racist Congressional Black Caucas, the overtly liberal ACLU and the overtly liberal msm has been deafening for decades. For God's sake own up to it and discredit all of those people!

Owner59 -> RE: Racist Tea Party Signs You Won`t See On TV (7/20/2010 6:46:21 AM)
The dichotomy isn`t liberal vs rightist. It`s bigoty vs good folks. The good folks of the movement must separate themselves from the jerkoffs,which they just did,in Las Vegas. The good folks of the movement certainly must NOT defend the jerkoffs or prevaricate about their presence in the tea party.

domiguy -> RE: Racist Tea Party Signs You Won`t See On TV (7/20/2010 6:57:26 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: RacerJim quote: ORIGINAL: rulemylife quote: ORIGINAL: Archer The liberals (here online in blogs and in the media including that outright admission that the tactic would be a good thing to do) bring forth the signs from the margins and report on them as if the tea party is welcoming them with open arms. That part is what I lay at the liberals feet. Without the reporting as if they were a large part the numbers would be less. Any big party is going to be crashed by folks you'd rather not have at the party. Then for God's sake own up to it and discredit those people. The silence from within the teabagger movement is deafening. The silence from within the overtly racist NAACP, the overtly racist Congressional Black Caucas, the overtly liberal ACLU and the overtly liberal msm has been deafening for decades. For God's sake own up to it and discredit all of those people! You should be discredited from CM for your racist comments.....

Jeffff -> RE: Racist Tea Party Signs You Won`t See On TV (7/20/2010 7:00:06 AM)
He is.

Archer -> RE: Racist Tea Party Signs You Won`t See On TV (7/20/2010 7:03:39 AM)
Well lets see about how the Tea Party has been handling thinbgs that just hasn't made the cut for "news" in the media. Orly Taitz had the invitation recinded because the Tea Party wanted to distance themselves from the Birther Movement. (a huge number of the worst signs come from birther sources not Tea Party sources.) http://www.gamblingiq.com/forum/politics-religion/42984.htm Then again in April 2010 the Crash the Tea Party group comes on scene and the Tea Party starts to take action against the racist signs and working to disown the Larouche crowd glomming on to the Tea Party protests. http://voices.washingtonpost.com/right-now/2010/04/freedomworks_well_film_shenani.html http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GYfmShJe5MA&feature=player_embedded#! and as a direct response to one of the signs that Owner listed here is the rest of the story where the Tea Party folks kicked the guy out for one of the signs Owner posted in his post. So you see the sign and people post the sign as a statement of what racisim is at the events BUT BUT BUT the story that the guy with that sign was kicked out and disowned never makes it into the story as told by Owner or anyone else repposting that sign as evidence that the Tea Party isn't doing anything. http://ikeonic.blogspot.com/2010/01/epic-fail-teapartyorg-founder-dale.html

domiguy -> RE: Racist Tea Party Signs You Won`t See On TV (7/20/2010 7:18:35 AM)
They are doing something now that the fire is at their feet. Nothing like using blogs and forums as your sources. Sorry, didn't take the time to read them. If you handed this shit in what would be your grade?

Archer -> RE: Racist Tea Party Signs You Won`t See On TV (7/20/2010 7:28:23 AM)
domi, April is Now??????????? all of these stories are at least 3 months old lolong before the NAACP made any noise. these stories are old news yet nobody knows much about them because they news doesn't cover that aspect. Short of a violent ejection where they beat the guy with the handle from his own sign the media will ignore action taken to remove racists from the events. The racist sign is news the ejection done quietly or a quiet confrontation from the organizers isnt news. Oh and as for grades go suck some corprolite you're not in a position to grade me, and it mean anything to me. Sometimes the blogs are where the information is because the mainstream media isn't interested in the truth, only the sensationalism.

domiguy -> RE: Racist Tea Party Signs You Won`t See On TV (7/20/2010 9:25:41 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Archer domi, April is Now??????????? all of these stories are at least 3 months old lolong before the NAACP made any noise. these stories are old news yet nobody knows much about them because they news doesn't cover that aspect. Short of a violent ejection where they beat the guy with the handle from his own sign the media will ignore action taken to remove racists from the events. The racist sign is news the ejection done quietly or a quiet confrontation from the organizers isnt news. Oh and as for grades go suck some corprolite you're not in a position to grade me, and it mean anything to me. Sometimes the blogs are where the information is because the mainstream media isn't interested in the truth, only the sensationalism. If you go back, I believe everyone of those stories made it into the forums. What you need to do with racists is not quietly remove them from an event but deny them any affiliation with your group and expose them for what they are. The teabaggers just got around to kicking a guy out that had been making racist comments since the inception of the choreographed "movement."

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Racist Tea Party Signs You Won`t See On TV (7/20/2010 9:31:19 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thishereboi quote: ORIGINAL: jlf1961 Given the fact that these signs have been seen on various news reports, and the fact that the Tea Party movement has shown a racist tendency, do you really expect anything different. The Tea Party is for White Anglo Saxon America. If you aint white then you dont count. So you are saying Biden is a liar or stupid? Which is it? Well, he is both, but I suppose some of his lying needs to be excused since he's so fucking dumb he probably thinks he's telling the truth. Portrait of Joe BiteMe: [sm=marionette.gif]

willbeurdaddy -> RE: Racist Tea Party Signs You Won`t See On TV (7/20/2010 9:35:04 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Archer Short of a violent ejection where they beat the guy with the handle from his own sign the media will ignore action taken to remove racists from the events. Tell both sides of the story Archer. They might have considered violent ejection, but they knew SEIU was fully booked for that job to keep Dems from having to answer tough questions at town hall meetings.

joether -> RE: Racist Tea Party Signs You Won`t See On TV (7/20/2010 3:24:41 PM)
Archer, If I told your image, and printed it out. You know, the one of you standing, before a gold symbol on a red background, surrounded by a gold border. And that gold and red image, has a black wall behind it. And there you are, wearing a militarized, black officer's cap, a leather vest. And your right hand, in a fist on your chest. Yes, that one! And ask 1000 people, if the person in that image looked like he belonged to some nazi or fascist group. What percentage would say 'yes'? And if I told those who said 'no', that you fully support the Tea Party Movement (as you are defending it, with outragous arguements). How many of those who said 'no', would switch their answer to 'yes'? The NAACP, was fully correct, to smack the Tea Party for its view point on racism.

thishereboi -> RE: Racist Tea Party Signs You Won`t See On TV (7/20/2010 3:28:23 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: joether Archer, If I told your image, and printed it out. You know, the one of you standing, before a gold symbol on a red background, surrounded by a gold border. And that gold and red image, has a black wall behind it. And there you are, wearing a militarized, black officer's cap, a leather vest. And your right hand, in a fist on your chest. Yes, that one! And ask 1000 people, if the person in that image looked like he belonged to some nazi or fascist group. What percentage would say 'yes'? And if I told those who said 'no', that you fully support the Tea Party Movement (as you are defending it, with outragous arguements). How many of those who said 'no', would switch their answer to 'yes'? The NAACP, was fully correct, to smack the Tea Party for its view point on racism. If their only reason for deciding that he is racist is based on whether or not he is in the tea party, then they have some issues to work out themselves.

Owner59 -> RE: Racist Tea Party Signs You Won`t See On TV (7/20/2010 4:09:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: joether Archer, If I told your image, and printed it out. You know, the one of you standing, before a gold symbol on a red background, surrounded by a gold border. And that gold and red image, has a black wall behind it. And there you are, wearing a militarized, black officer's cap, a leather vest. And your right hand, in a fist on your chest. Yes, that one! And ask 1000 people, if the person in that image looked like he belonged to some nazi or fascist group. What percentage would say 'yes'? And if I told those who said 'no', that you fully support the Tea Party Movement (as you are defending it, with outragous arguements). How many of those who said 'no', would switch their answer to 'yes'? The NAACP, was fully correct, to smack the Tea Party for its view point on racism. Out of bounds..... Archer is not that.Not at all. He part of the leather scene and not part of any extremist groups.He hasn`t come off like that or led anyone to believe that he`s with nazis,neo-nazis whatever or anything like that.It`s wrong to say that based on looks.Not the 1st time someone has said this about Archer,either. He`s mostly conservative but not at all jerky about it.One of the few old school republicans and not a neo-conservative. Though we disagree on some politics,he`s cool and deserves everyone`s respect.

thornhappy -> RE: Racist Tea Party Signs You Won`t See On TV (7/20/2010 7:30:41 PM)
Problem is that that "ideal Americana" never existed, and Obama wouldn't be President if it did. Leave it To Beaver was TV. At the same time you're talking about, Elisabella, there was Jim Crow and hell, women couldn't even get into the Ivies. Women in university were told they were there for their Mrs degree (I even heard that line in '77). quote: ORIGINAL: Elisabella I think that the tea party is nostalgic for more than just racism. They probably miss stuff like nuclear families, housewives, kids who don't take half naked pictures for their myspace, children being raised by 2 parents, heteronormativity, family owned businesses, working class factory jobs, abortion being illegal, people going to church on Sundays, being able to look up at the stars without seeing a neon corporate logo, etc. And yeah, they probably miss default white supremacy, but I genuinely believe if Barack Obama's agenda was to try to recreate that ideal Americana, he wouldn't be called out on his race.

joether -> RE: Racist Tea Party Signs You Won`t See On TV (7/20/2010 8:07:24 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Owner59 quote: ORIGINAL: joether Archer, If I told your image, and printed it out. You know, the one of you standing, before a gold symbol on a red background, surrounded by a gold border. And that gold and red image, has a black wall behind it. And there you are, wearing a militarized, black officer's cap, a leather vest. And your right hand, in a fist on your chest. Yes, that one! And ask 1000 people, if the person in that image looked like he belonged to some nazi or fascist group. What percentage would say 'yes'? And if I told those who said 'no', that you fully support the Tea Party Movement (as you are defending it, with outragous arguements). How many of those who said 'no', would switch their answer to 'yes'? The NAACP, was fully correct, to smack the Tea Party for its view point on racism. Out of bounds..... Archer is not that.Not at all. He part of the leather scene and not part of any extremist groups.He hasn`t come off like that or led anyone to believe that he`s with nazis,neo-nazis whatever or anything like that.It`s wrong to say that based on looks.Not the 1st time someone has said this about Archer,either. He`s mostly conservative but not at all jerky about it.One of the few old school republicans and not a neo-conservative. Though we disagree on some politics,he`s cool and deserves everyone`s respect. He does seem to support the Tea Party in his posts. Some of his links, are very 'bloggish' and not 'journalistic' quality. 'Old School' Republicans helped create the problems this country is dealing with (not to mention some 'old school' Democrats). Voters have to own up, to the people they elect to public office. Someone like Mr. Bush, was not a very good person for the office, but yet, people voted him a second term. I am simply observing Republicans, hold a distinct irresponsiblity, over laws, projects, and goverment. It is easy to point the finger at the other guy for F-ing something up. It is not easy, to admit fault. While any one of us, could look at Archer and say "hey dude, nice look!", we also know he's a kinky kind of guy. I have no problem with that. He's a Master. Dont have a problem with that either. He is welcome to his viewpoint, but could consider better usuage of wisdom in the future (like the rest of us). As this subject, seems to draw the worst in us out. But then, is hatred every suppose to be a good thing for humanity? Archer, My apologizes. I should have explained the previous statement above, and been, MUCH, clearer in the exact thought process. Was not my intention to attack you personally. Even after thinking about it for a while, I could say how it could be called that. Just a guy, arguing against liberals, over a group that has been highly accused across the board for holding a racists stance(s) on subjects, dressed as you are in that image. My words, were not as well thought out and wise, as they should have been. For that, I am sorry, Archer.

jlf1961 -> RE: Racist Tea Party Signs You Won`t See On TV (7/20/2010 8:26:51 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: thornhappy Problem is that that "ideal Americana" never existed, and Obama wouldn't be President if it did. Uh, can we work for an America where there is not a walmart in every town? Can we outlaw the teaparty? Can we make Baseball something that attendance is mandatory? And finally, can we get rid of reality tv? Oh hell, I would settle for a balance federal budget, our troops being out of Iraq and the neo cons with ball gags in their mouths.

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