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Termyn8or -> RE: Child support (7/21/2010 8:38:43 AM)
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FR
OK, I understand that alot of custodial Parents get screwed and my own Mother was one of them. The olman was paying when he was in town but things got a bit too hot legally for him and he took off to parts unknown for a time. During that time she got nothing. So in essence I have been on the short end of that stick. When he got back there was alot of catching up to do, but it was done in cash. Also every year they did their taxes about four different ways, splitting us "deductions" up and filing to get the maximum tax refund, and then just split it up. His legal problems had nothing to do with child support, and my Mother suffered because of it. I learned what it was like to do without.
I have no problem with putting deadbeat Dads or Moms in jail. This is punishment and intended to be a deterrent. But the fact is that this state takes licenses at the drop of a hat, so much so that in Ohio when it comes to employability a driver's license is more valuable than a degree. I shit you not.
This is wrong. Let's put it this way, if you put the bum in jail, he won't be driving anywhere. As far as I'm concerned, let the drug heads out to make room for the deadbeats. But after they serve some time, at least let them drive, it is essential for most people for their employment. Maybe that is my point. I think the intent of issuing driver's licenses should be as pure as the original intent - to make sure that drivers know and obey the basic rules of the road. Actually if you go out driving you probably know that this is not being accomplished.
There is a little known place, a bank somewhere offshore, that promises NOT to give your money back, nor even tell you how much you have. It is specifically designed so that you are unable to comply with a US court order. In other words the purpose is for tax evasion. It only works sometimes, and is probably shut down because they now know about it, and having such an account is prima facie evidence that you intend to evade taxes. But it did work for a few people for a short time. So if the inability to comply with a court order is a valid defense in that case, why not here ? Sure we got hungry kids, but if the couple had never split up they would be just as hungry.
Now we have this fucked up economy, and you have these assholes like Judge Judy who say to go pick up cans. Bullshit. With all the partying I've done over the years, and I mean with friends and drinking heavily myself, in a month I could save up about fifty bucks worth of cans. This simply doesn't cut it and is therefore a waste of time. If you have hungry mouths to feed, wasting time is not a good thing. In other words, don't pick up cans, drop them off, i.e. drive a beer truck. That should net you maybe $15 an hour at least, which might be enough.
It's damn hard enough to find people in real life who can think things through logically and determine an effective solution, but it seems noone in government is able to do so at all. All of this shit is non productive. Like penalties for late tax payments. You dumb motherfuckers, you think I want you on my ass for this money ? If I had it I would pay it, so now you make it harder ? What sense does that make. Actually interest I can understand. But another little known thing is that in an audit, you can offer the tax, and refuse to pay any interest or penalties, it's been done more than once and 99% of the time they will take it. That's because when you assert it they know you will have a credible defense if they run your ass into court. Details on that some other time.
The way I see it, even having been on the short end, is to put people in jail for any debt is a debtor's prison and that is supposed to be against the law in this country. Either yes or no. That means if you think the deadbeat Dads should go to jail, YOU should go to jail for missing a credit card payment, and they are working on that, see other posts, it has been brought up.
You know this whole motherfucker brings me alot of disdain. I can see that it is [inappropriate] knee jerk reaction typical of the government(s) here. I caan take this to a much higher level (or is it lower ? ) with two words :
Food stamps.
So you got someone down and out who can't afford food. The government gives them monet for food. OK, not that crazy about the idea but I can live with it. But now it was found that people were using the money for other purposes. So they came out with food stamps. But the will of the "people" survived and they took to selling the food stamps. Some sold them for booze or drugs, most in fact. I happen to know a couple people who traded them for gasoline, literally to get to work to get off the public dole. To get their earning power in order. To better themselves.
But it is alot harder now that they have the cards, referrred to on the street as the "grub stub". It has become a whole new sub-economy. Sure some misuse it and just get high while their kids starve, but what if they work and just don't bring the money home where it belongs ? What do you do about that ?
But when a couple splits up the government gets involved. And they charge a fee of course. Now if you got a guy who is making good money, driving a new Hummer and all this and refuses to pay that paltry couple hundred a month to suport those who he spawned, I am all for putting his ass in jail. In fact let him just check in and park that Hummer, and drive home - after paying the parking. You took away all his rights for a time by putting him in jail. Why would you break his legs as he walks out the door ? It doesn't make sense if you are truly trying to compel payment.
This persistent inclination to not actually solve the problem leads me to believe that they do not want to solve the problem at all. I don't put it past them and I see more evidence of it every day. This is in all aspects of government.
(sorry this is unproofed)
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