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RE: Video Suggests Racism At NAACP Event - 7/20/2010 7:09:53 PM   
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RE: Video Suggests Racism At NAACP Event - 7/20/2010 7:14:23 PM   
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Just saw fox talking head asking...."did Obama "railroad" an innocent woman ?

Did Obama railroad this woman?!?!?!


WTF are these people taking?!?


what other spin could they put on it?




Fuxnews Headline:

Obama administration makes up fake story,edits video to assassinate character of poor hapless woman who helped farmers keep their farm....


How`s that?



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RE: Video Suggests Racism At NAACP Event - 7/20/2010 7:16:18 PM   
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Thats not the full video, ken.

Theres a cut and splice at 21:01 as shes talking about the white farmer.

Feel free to try again though, if you ever manage to find the full version.


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Full video
http://www.naacp.org/news/entry/video_sherrod/


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RE: Video Suggests Racism At NAACP Event - 7/20/2010 7:28:05 PM   
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Check your memos.

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RE: Video Suggests Racism At NAACP Event - 7/20/2010 8:14:40 PM   
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Just saw fox talking head asking...."did Obama "railroad" an innocent woman ?

Did Obama railroad this woman?!?!?!


WTF are these people taking?!?


what other spin could they put on it?




Wasnt it Fox who ran with the video after not verifying its authenticity or even its accuracy?

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RE: Video Suggests Racism At NAACP Event - 7/20/2010 8:16:10 PM   
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I have a solution for all the country's racial problems.... Kick everyone out of the country with less than 25% native american blood.


YAY!!!!

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RE: Video Suggests Racism At NAACP Event - 7/20/2010 8:35:35 PM   
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However, she should sue the idiot who edited the video for lost wages and harrassment.

At this point I think a defamation case is a slam dunk. Malicious intent is going to be trivially easy to prove. The more interesting question is where did he get the video to edit. It was filmed by a videographer who was employed by the NAACP. That company is refusing to release the video to news outlets citing the NAACP's copyright. So whoever gave it to Breitbart stole it. It would be funny if he did time for receipt of stolen goods.


You dont go to jail for copyright infringement, and thats all the "theft" amounts to.

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RE: Video Suggests Racism At NAACP Event - 7/20/2010 8:41:39 PM   
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Just saw fox talking head asking...."did Obama "railroad" an innocent woman ?

Did Obama railroad this woman?!?!?!


WTF are these people taking?!?



what else would you call it when at the behest of the the White House she is called on her cell phone 3 times while shes driving, and in the third call tells her to pull over to the side of the road and resign , yet the WH didnt even have the full story?

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RE: Video Suggests Racism At NAACP Event - 7/20/2010 8:47:36 PM   
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RE: Video Suggests Racism At NAACP Event - 7/20/2010 8:49:04 PM   
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Where do you get this decision was at the bequest of the White House?


Sherrod said thats what she was told when she was ordered to resign.

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RE: Video Suggests Racism At NAACP Event - 7/20/2010 8:50:30 PM   
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RE: Video Suggests Racism At NAACP Event - 7/20/2010 8:53:51 PM   
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Status: offline 		Im sure she did. However, every news report has said the same very thing. The WH was not even informed of the decision until the head of the USDA made it.

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Vilsack told CNN on Tuesday that he "didn't speak to anyone at the White House. ... I made this decision, it's my decision. Nobody from the White House contacted me about this at all."

A White House official also told CNN that "the White House did not pressure her or the USDA over the resignation. It was the secretary's decision, as he has said."

President Barack Obama was briefed on the situation after Vilsack decided to seek Sherrod's resignation, according to a White House official, who said the president fully supports the decision.


http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/07/20/agriculture.employee.naacp/index.html?hpt=C1

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Agriculture Secretary Tom Vilsack on Tuesday stood by his decision to demand the resignation of a Georgia official over a controversial YouTube clip, though the ex-official claimed afterward that the Obama administration never gave her a chance to tell her side of the story.

Shirley Sherrod, the department's ex-Georgia director of Rural Development, said the White House forced her out after the video surfaced showing her telling a story about how she withheld help to a white farmer in trouble. But she claimed the video omitted key context and that the administration just got scared.

"They were not interested in hearing the truth. No one wanted to hear the truth," she said in a television interview Tuesday morning.

Still, after intense media coverage of the fallout from the resignation, Vilsack released a written statement Tuesday afternoon defending and explaining his decision. He said the controversy itself was enough to make her job difficult.

"Yesterday, I asked for and accepted Ms. Sherrod's resignation for two reasons. First, for the past 18 months, we have been working to turn the page on the sordid civil rights record at USDA and this controversy could make it more difficult to move forward on correcting injustices. Second, state rural development directors make many decisions and are often called to use their discretion," he said. "The controversy surrounding her comments would create situations where her decisions, rightly or wrongly, would be called into question making it difficult for her to bring jobs to Georgia."

Administration officials said the White House had nothing to do with Vilsack's decision.


http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/20/ex-ag-official-says-video-showing-white-farmer-story-excludes-key-context/

To be perfectly honest she is coming across as a bit of a drama queen with this. The head of the USDA doesnt need presidential approval to hire or fire someone in the department. She can claim what she wishes, she offers no proof beyond being told to pull over to the side of the road and blackberry her resignation. She never heard of not answering the phone until she stopped?

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RE: Video Suggests Racism At NAACP Event - 7/20/2010 9:18:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		That doesn't tie in very well with what the firee was reported as saying earlier in the day, Tazzy. Time to trash the victim, maybe? "Say, Shirley, have you ever see what the drivetrain of a bus looks like?"

Did you actually suggest we can't take her word because she answered her phone while driving? That just smells like desperation.



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RE: Video Suggests Racism At NAACP Event - 7/20/2010 9:21:32 PM   
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Status: offline 		Nope, didnt say that was because she was driving. That was a huge stretch, even for you.

What i said was... she claims she was told at the bequest of the WH. Who told her? Who was on the other end? What do they say? Do they state they told her that?

I always look with suspicion at someone who has much to gain making such statements.

She got a raw deal, but i dont think the USDA was irresponsible in the firing and i dont believe the WH ordered it.

This article sums it up nicely...

quote:

Sherrod also hinted in two appearances on CNN that the White House was behind the firing, which is what now has people in an understandable uproar. But what did she say, exactly?


In one of those appearances, she says inconclusively that Breitbart appeared to have scared "the administration."

In the second, according to CNN's transcript, she said: "I had at least three calls telling me the White House wanted me to resign." Asked who the calls were from, Sherrod said they were from was Cheryl Cook, the USDA deputy undersecretary.

I don't know what to make of this. The woman is not alleging, as has been widely reported, that she got calls directly from the White House. Rather, she's saying that she was told the White House wanted her out.

Again, it seems very unlikely that the USDA would take an action like this without consulting the White House, and if the White House ordered this, it's appalling. And even without the White House, if Vilsack did fire her just on the strength of a Breitbart video, that itself is unacceptable, particularly now that the NAACP is conducting its own investigation into what happened, and it's looking like the Breitbart version may be bogus.

As for the White House's role, though, I want all the facts before making a final judgment.



Those are my feelings exactly.

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RE: Video Suggests Racism At NAACP Event - 7/20/2010 10:07:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ah. Fair enough, then. So I guess this was just an easy snark, not an actual point?

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She never heard of not answering the phone until she stopped?




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RE: Video Suggests Racism At NAACP Event - 7/20/2010 11:09:53 PM   
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See the cons keep spinning. Not even an acknowledgement that they got caught.

Breitbart is a liar.



LMAO. Who got caught at what?

Even if Breitbart is a "liar", that doesnt say a fucking thing about other conservatives....if he's even a conservative.

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RE: Video Suggests Racism At NAACP Event - 7/21/2010 12:40:37 AM   
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Status: offline 		Got caught trying to put a fraud over on the American people. Breitbart and FNC either knew it was a lie or didn't care. Real news organizations got to the bottom of it as soon as it got out there. Heck a simple fact check of when chapter 12 became available to family farms would have shown she was talking about around 1986 but the text shown at the front of the tape says "Ms. Sherrod admits thjat in her federally appointed position, overseeing over a billion dollars she discriminates against people due to their race."

That you personally tried to move on to the FNC spin of attacking the Obama administration is just proof that you don't care about the issues.

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RE: Video Suggests Racism At NAACP Event - 7/21/2010 5:24:16 AM   
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RE: Video Suggests Racism At NAACP Event - 7/21/2010 5:46:16 AM   
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Status: offline 		Apparently it shows the credibility of FOX news as a reporting channel.  Had they checked the story out instead of just run with it they would have found out the woman helped the farmer, the farmer's farm might have been lost without her help, and he was very happy for the help she gave him.  Unfortunately the way FOX represented that story affected Sharrods job.  Maybe the president was right and FOX should be considered a rag like the National Enquirer.  Not a real news channel, if thats the way it sees fit to report news.

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RE: Video Suggests Racism At NAACP Event - 7/21/2010 5:49:01 AM   
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Ah. Fair enough, then. So I guess this was just an easy snark, not an actual point?

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She never heard of not answering the phone until she stopped?





Hardly, yet again. I have long been an advocate of waiting till you reach a safe destination before answering a damn cell phone. The side of the road isnt what i would consider safe for anyone.

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