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cuckoldmepls -> The 5% Rule (IQ test) (7/22/2010 8:55:34 AM)

I won't explain it for you now, and let's see if you can figure out why this little paragraph is so incredulous. I will explain it in a few days if no one else can figure it out. Most liberals won't figure it out.

5 Percent Rule

In a bid to stem taxpayer losses for bad loans guaranteed by federal housing agencies Fanny Mae and Freddy Mac, Senator Bob Corker (R-Tenn) proposed that borrowers be required to make a 5% down payment in order to qualify. His proposal was rejected 57-42 on a party-line vote because, as Senator Chris Dodd (D-Conn) explained, ". ..passage of such a requirement would restrict home ownership to only those who can afford it."

I can't add anything to this.




mnottertail -> RE: The 5% Rule (IQ test) (7/22/2010 9:29:38 AM)

You've failed it first, so there is at least one drooler who can't pass it either.  




Hillwilliam -> RE: The 5% Rule (IQ test) (7/22/2010 9:40:12 AM)

Real Estate broker here and I saw this mess coming 5 or 6 years ago when they started doing 103% loans to people who had credit ratings of 520 or so.  Then, they wonder why they arent making payments.  Hell, they have NEVER made payments, that's why their credit sucks.




EbonyWood -> RE: The 5% Rule (IQ test) (7/22/2010 9:44:45 AM)

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saw this mess coming 5 or 6 years ago


During the Bush fiasco.
 
Remember those wacky conservatives.




TheHeretic -> RE: The 5% Rule (IQ test) (7/22/2010 9:46:28 AM)

Way to open with a display mediocre intelligence, Cucko. Did you have puzzle for hours to catch that?




rulemylife -> RE: The 5% Rule (IQ test) (7/22/2010 9:52:16 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

Real Estate broker here and I saw this mess coming 5 or 6 years ago when they started doing 103% loans to people who had credit ratings of 520 or so.  Then, they wonder why they arent making payments.  Hell, they have NEVER made payments, that's why their credit sucks.


You saw it coming but I would bet big money that you were still talking people with those poor credit ratings into taking on those mortgages.




mnottertail -> RE: The 5% Rule (IQ test) (7/22/2010 10:48:25 AM)

OK, 5 or 6 people got it so far, only the OP so far who can't pencil it out.




EbonyWood -> RE: The 5% Rule (IQ test) (7/22/2010 10:52:49 AM)

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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

OK, 5 or 6 people got it so far, only the OP so far who can't pencil it out.


He is coming back in a few days to avail us of the truth, unless his pencil breaks.
 
Meanwhile, us humans have got on with, well, life.




thornhappy -> RE: The 5% Rule (IQ test) (7/22/2010 10:58:56 AM)

I can speak for a few relatives who are in the business in CA (conservative for those who are interested).

They ranted and raved about those loans, and the even worse "interest only" loans.  BTW, these weren't going to poor minorities, these were going to upper class white folks  (I was mid-upper class at the time and my pay never could keep up with the boom in prices, I rented instead.  Which was still a pain since rents were booming at the same time.)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

Real Estate broker here and I saw this mess coming 5 or 6 years ago when they started doing 103% loans to people who had credit ratings of 520 or so.  Then, they wonder why they arent making payments.  Hell, they have NEVER made payments, that's why their credit sucks.


You saw it coming but I would bet big money that you were still talking people with those poor credit ratings into taking on those mortgages.





tropicalhoney -> RE: The 5% Rule (IQ test) (7/22/2010 11:00:07 AM)

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You saw it coming but I would bet big money that you were still talking people with those poor credit ratings into taking on those mortgages.


Actually, as a realtor, I refused to work with people who had no way to pay for the houses for which they were supposedly eligible. My conscience wouldn't let me do that to them.




thompsonx -> RE: The 5% Rule (IQ test) (7/22/2010 11:03:24 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: Hillwilliam

Real Estate broker here and I saw this mess coming 5 or 6 years ago when they started doing 103% loans to people who had credit ratings of 520 or so.  Then, they wonder why they arent making payments.  Hell, they have NEVER made payments, that's why their credit sucks.


It sorta begs the question "what sort of genius would approve a 103% loan to someone with a 520 credit score?"




willbeurdaddy -> RE: The 5% Rule (IQ test) (7/22/2010 11:05:22 AM)

What is so incredulous is that any idiot could vote for Dodd.




LaTigresse -> RE: The 5% Rule (IQ test) (7/22/2010 11:21:50 AM)

I kinda like the good, old fashioned, work hard, pay your bills, save your money, find a house for approx 1/2 what the mortgage lender told you 'you could afford', make a fat down payment, make double payments for 15 years....... and voila'!!!! You've bought a house!!!

Silly me.




servantforuse -> RE: The 5% Rule (IQ test) (7/22/2010 11:47:21 AM)

Hopefully there will be many more people who will do things the 'old fashioned' way. Save money, get out of debt and buy what you can afford..




willbeurdaddy -> RE: The 5% Rule (IQ test) (7/22/2010 11:48:24 AM)


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ORIGINAL: servantforuse

Hopefully there will be many more people who will do things the 'old fashioned' way. Save money, get out of debt and buy what you can afford..


Why, when they still think that Blowboy is going to buy them a house and gas for their car?




Moonhead -> RE: The 5% Rule (IQ test) (7/22/2010 11:55:00 AM)


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ORIGINAL: cuckoldmepls
". ..passage of such a requirement would restrict home ownership to only those who can afford it."

Maybe it's just me, but isn't the point of a mortgage in the first place allowing people who don't have a few hundred grand in the bank to buy a house?




mrbob726 -> RE: The 5% Rule (IQ test) (7/22/2010 11:59:03 AM)

Our genius Senate at work - and we pay these guys 




joether -> RE: The 5% Rule (IQ test) (7/22/2010 11:59:11 AM)

There really is another element to this whole issue. It is one of spending habit. Conservatives have it worst then liberals, even though some liberals are just as guilty. It has to do with wealth aquirement. For a long time, houses were considered a good investment. They would generally rise in worth barring unforseen issues like fire, blight or 'Acts of God'. And for the time period starting back in the late 1940's, this was true. The credit score of people, was not the original problem. It was the problem that grew from it. As times changed, and America advanced in to the economic power she became, Americans were increasing conditioned to buy, buy, buy. It did not happen all at first, but over time. Tiny bits, little by little. Sort of like (metaphorically) how one steams a Maine Lobster; mmmmmm......lobster.....

Anyways, Americans were told, "If you want to appear successful in life, you need..." Back in the 50's, it was a car, garage and a nice house. In the 70's, it was to be making trips across the country and abroad. In the 90's, it was 2-3 cars, and a LARGER house. In the last decade, it was 2 SUVs and 1 luxury/sports car, big house, trips, and lots of high tech equipment. For Americans, the wanting to aquire material wealth, virtually drained their bank accounts of raw resources (i.e. dollars). They started expanding their addiction to credit. Back before 1980's, some of the costs (health care, gas, even groceries), were pretty cheap. Now adays, those things have added up, in addition to the materialized wealth, we Americans have been programmed to believe we need.

Even those of bad credit, want to feel like they are some what successful in life. A house represents both a good long term investment, stability, and a place to live (oh yeah, nice spot for a dungeon too). Unfortunately, due to virtually little to any regulations, companies were able to entice this section of the population, with bad loans. There were more then a few cases of 'borrowers made $68K/year, and the loaner set them up for $85K/year'. The result, were borrowers losing everything to an unscrupulous persons. Fortunately, the financial reform, is to help prevent this sort of 'predatory lending'. Democrats did try to curb this predatory lending practices back in the late 1990's (when Republicans controlled Congress), and on up to, now (Republicans controlled Congress until 2006). We've witness the fallout, and the crushing defeat Americans have felt from this crap.

So again, I ask, Why should we vote Republicans back in to office in November?




Lucylastic -> RE: The 5% Rule (IQ test) (7/22/2010 12:04:25 PM)

FR
And I thought I was condescending, holy shit, compassion is in short supply around here just lately
fuck what a pisser




mrbob726 -> RE: The 5% Rule (IQ test) (7/22/2010 12:14:39 PM)

joether - If someone can't save enough to come up with a 5% down payment, how can you expect them to be able to make payments on a big mortgage ? It has nothing to do with how we got here - it has everything to do with how we get away from it.




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