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Silkers -> The Acid Test (7/25/2010 12:18:49 PM)

As I begin once again to search collar me for a boy, I made sure to read back thur Acid Test.  If you are not aware of this test it would behoove you to read though it. 




stef -> RE: The Acid Test (7/25/2010 12:30:38 PM)

Are you looking for a boy like Ken Kesey?

~stef




Lockit -> RE: The Acid Test (7/25/2010 12:44:24 PM)

Well, I would think if it is that important that someone read the acid test, you would provide a link. Googling for an acid test can bring up different results unless you put just the right words in.

Personally, between your post and the acid test I found... I would suggest a pass to any submissive's I know, but to each their own.




Silkers -> RE: The Acid Test (7/25/2010 12:55:09 PM)

Here you go Lockit.
http://www.askdollie.com/acid_test.htm 




VaguelyCurious -> RE: The Acid Test (7/25/2010 3:18:08 PM)

See, I used to think that was a great resource, but then I re-read it maybe six months ago and it seemed awfully limited. If you followed all the criteria you'd probably be safer than if you threw them all out the window, but some of the Doms I respect the most would fail the acid test on one criterion or another.

A checklist like that is no substitute for care, rational thought or a sense of judgement.

It also has kind of a man-hating vibe that I don't really like...




Silkers -> RE: The Acid Test (7/25/2010 3:25:36 PM)

No you can not use it like a check list, going down it and marking things off. I don't think people can be pegged that way. But it does have some good information that has helped lots of people.  Yes I agree  there isnt any substitue for care, rational thought or a sense of judgement.  As always, I just take what I can use.




VaguelyCurious -> RE: The Acid Test (7/25/2010 3:39:24 PM)

I've just read it again, and now I have *more* issues with it than I had then.

These are some of the things I have problems with:

'Test #6: "It's my way or the highway!" or words to that effect, are the mating cry of the common control freak. Doms can have limits too, but it's your limits that count FIRST. Don't let any would-be "Dom" tell you differently. Don't let any of the wannabe subs tell you differently either. Where Male Dom/fem sub play is concerned, it's always lady's choice!'

What that seems to be saying is that anyone who considers compatibility more important than compromising is a control freak. Personally, I want a partner who wants what I want. If you don't want what I want then I don't want you, so it really *is* my way or the highway.


'Test #9: "I'm a [bank president, captain of industry, combat photographer, self-made millionaire... yadda yadda yadda.]" Wouldn't it be nice to meet a rich Dom too? Sure it would! But use some common sense. How many captains of industry have hours to spend in an AOL chat room? Also, think about this personality profile; If this super successful, always-in-control person is really into BDSM, he's likely a submissive! Worse yet, it could very likely mean he is a control freak.'

This is presented with no evidence to back up what the author is saying. It's judgemental and I suspect it's also nonsense.


Test #11: Ask for references! Especially if he claims to be "very experienced." Talk to the references on the phone. Lots of HNGs have female screen-names set up to act as "references" for them! I notice that a lot of newbies seem to have trouble with this concept. Which is understandable since in the vanilla world it's considered rude to talk to a guy's ex-girlfriend. However, in the BDSM scene it's the opposite; experienced Dominants should accept and accommodate this kind of request gladly.

I don't see that. Some BDSM relationships are intense and personal. I wouldn't want to provide a reference for any of my ex-lovers, kinky or otherwise.


Test #13: "I don't need safewords." Well of course he doesn't! If he said this he's likely a snert and therefore he's never really been in a scene! Of course he might be a predator too, and then he wouldn't need safewords either. Need I say more?

I don't use normally use safewords-I can assure you that I'm neither a predator nor a snert. I just find that the word 'stop' works fine...


Test #14: "My slaves trust me to set their limits for them." If you hear a "Dom" say this it's most likely because these slaves only exist in his mind. Or worse still, his "slave" is simply the victim of spousal abuse. Even so-called TPE (Total Power Exchange) and other sorts of 24/7 (i.e. full time) BDSM relationships should involve careful and thorough negotiation.

I can think of several s-type women  on the boards who would tell you very adamantly that they *do* exist, despite what the bolded portion says...

I don't like the overall tone of the thing. It sounds judgemental, it generalises past the point of meaningfulness and it makes a lot of statements without backing any of them up (for example the set of statistics at the top about M:s ratios).

Can you see what I'm saying?

<edited to make the spacing more clear>




juliaoceania -> RE: The Acid Test (7/25/2010 7:10:22 PM)

My question about acid tests is "do you so utterly lack common sense and judgment that you need one?"

If the answer it "yes", well good for you that you found someone with better judgment than you to make one up...

Edited to add.... this list is really is STUPID. I had to read through it again after about 5 years to remind myself of how stupid it really is




OohAahMrs -> RE: The Acid Test (7/26/2010 2:22:18 AM)

Welcome to CM.




sirsholly -> RE: The Acid Test (7/26/2010 5:49:18 PM)

quote:

Test #11: Ask for references! Especially if he claims to be "very experienced." Talk to the references on the phone. Lots of HNGs have female screen-names set up to act as "references" for them! I notice that a lot of newbies seem to have trouble with this concept. Which is understandable since in the vanilla world it's considered rude to talk to a guy's ex-girlfriend. However, in the BDSM scene it's the opposite; experienced Dominants should accept and accommodate this kind of request gladly.
i have always had an issue with this.
I do not want someone elses opinion...i need to form my own. If i am uncertain to the point i require reassurance from a past lover, then i am also too uncertain to be in the relationship in the first place.




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