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Gay guys domming straight guys - 7/29/2010 4:08:32 PM   
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Do any Dommes actually send their male subs/slaves out to gay Doms to get used and humiliated etc? i hear a lot of talk about it but have yet to see any evidence of it. So is it true, or just more wank fodder?

Alternatively, do straight Doms ever take on gay slaves? Dont know why they would, but no harm in asking i guess!
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RE: Gay guys domming straight guys - 7/29/2010 4:34:10 PM   
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I don't send anyone to another person.. that said... there's some urban legend about it... although I suppose it might happen...

that said, there are all kinds of permutations of relationships out there... I've been involved in some of them... anything can happen with open minds, interest and honesty...

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RE: Gay guys domming straight guys - 7/29/2010 4:35:40 PM   
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I don't tend to send anyone "out" to do anything unless we are talking about simple service type stuff.  I've had occasions where I've sent My boy to participate in charity events and so on (spa days) when I wasn't able to attend Myself.

If it's going to be anything more geared toward what you are referring to, I don't allow anything sexual to happen if I'm not there.  (Why would I want to miss it?)  The way I see it, that is My boy that is being played with.  I'm certainly not going to send him for humiliation or something that I have concerns might be damaging.

As to your second question, I do know of situations were a straight person has a gay person in a service or D/s dynamic.  To My knowledge, it isn't sexual, but then again, it's none of My business.  I know of one Master who happens to be gay who has had a lesbian slave for a number of years.  The arrangement seems to work out very well for them.


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RE: Gay guys domming straight guys - 7/29/2010 4:40:49 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: armybitchboi

Do any Dommes actually send their male subs/slaves out to gay Doms to get used and humiliated etc? i hear a lot of talk about it but have yet to see any evidence of it. So is it true, or just more wank fodder?

Alternatively, do straight Doms ever take on gay slaves? Dont know why they would, but no harm in asking i guess!


Sir has had bottoms and submissives of every gender and every orientation and he's quite straight. He just doesn't indulge sexually. It's a power trip for him.

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RE: Gay guys domming straight guys - 7/29/2010 6:15:57 PM   
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Armybitchboi,

Personally, I have more Gay Leather friends (family) than Heterosexual.  Yet, I am Heterosexual. 

As far as sending my slaves to another, such as a Gay TOP, Daddy, Master --I send mine to those I know.  I've had my slave submit to the Gay Daddies in public and got the girls all hot and bothered, the Male Het. Doms worried and I was grinning as my slave was having a blast!.

Because I am not into the Lifestyle just for the 'sexual' gratification -- I have had Gay slaves, Bi-slaves and Straight.

One thing though I am not into -- that is 'humiliation.'  That isn't my bag.  However, if I have to dress a boy/slave down as to become humiliating--that point is usually the next to the last act I'll do.  The last act is releasing that individual.  I favor boys that will want to please and avoid punishment and or humiliation.  That does not mean a scene like a 'torture scene' or 'interrogation scene' can't happen.  But, that is a mere scene--not a relationship attitude.

I've seen those 'humiliation style' inter-actions and relationships built on such.  They don't last but two weeks at the best as the novalty is worn out and nobody puts up with the domineering type; regardless of gender or sexual preferences.

Now, that said -- I've had heterosexual men curious about Gay sex.  I give them access to my Gay Daddy type friends and they are very patient with them.  They push them a certain way but, certainly not to humiliate them or to cause harm.  I think that 'humiliation' bit in advertisement is a male 'grabber' of sexual fantasy attention.  Men are visual and trigger on such.  In reality -- the idea is keeping kinky friends not driving them away.  Some will find that the Bisexual side of themselves is there and some find that they're really Heterosexual.  They won't know unless they try and with a sensitive Gay Leatherman like I have as friends/family.  Once they found themselves, its fine--nobody forces their sexuality on others.  They just respect and love who they grow to be--a fellowship in a very unique lifestyle.

For myself -- I have owned an assortment of slaves. Het, Gay, Bi --men and women.  I TOP a lot of Gay men, especially at Gay male venues.  They know I am Het.  They know I am good at what I do.  I TOP Dominant men and women as well as SWITCHES and submissives/slave types.

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RE: Gay guys domming straight guys - 7/29/2010 6:49:49 PM   
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If it isn't sexual, then the sexual orientation of the people involved shouldn't matter.

If what you want is your buns warmed, then would you know if the person wielding the paddle at the club is male or female, gay or straight, dominant or submissive?


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RE: Gay guys domming straight guys - 7/29/2010 8:12:09 PM   
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I've never seen any real-life variant of this, but for some reason this is an incredibly common fantasy among gay doms.

In fact, I remember a former dom of mine once saying "You'll do it, even though you're straight," and I actually laughed out loud and must have had a "WTF?" expression on my face until I realized he wanted some kind of gay on "straight" role-play.

I don't really understand it myself ( no desire to serve a straight male dom, or for that matter, cross the orientation border and serve a woman in any other than a platonic context ), but if any straight guys are looking there are plenty on the gay side eager to explore it.

Considering that most of the fantasies I've been told end with penetration, power, most straight male subs might want to make boundaries VERY clear.

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RE: Gay guys domming straight guys - 7/29/2010 8:15:11 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DesFIP

If what you want is your buns warmed, then would you know if the person wielding the paddle at the club is male or female, gay or straight, dominant or submissive?


I'd skip humans altogether.

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RE: Gay guys domming straight guys - 7/30/2010 9:44:48 AM   
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ROFL!

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RE: Gay guys domming straight guys - 7/30/2010 1:36:59 PM   
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It exists (str8 male slave serving a gay Master). A gay Master friend of mine had one of his friends, a str8 female Domme, send him a str8 slaveboy for a weekend of training and humiliation. The slave had some idea that he was being transported to another Master's home (all clothes and ID 30 miles away), but he had no idea he'd be serving a man, especially a gay one. I can understand the mind-fuck dynamics caused by this type of humiliation where the str8 male slave is probably facing for the first time in his life the same objectification he gives women, and whatever sex/erotic component of his enslavement is gone. And, yes, after a long two days as another man's bitch toy, he was introduced to some very serious man-on-man sex, and forced to do it right. Just as note, the slave's Domme did stop by several times each day, but the slave had no idea his Domme and the Master were very good friends.

You know you have trained your str8 slave well when you can point to a cock and tell him to suck it and he does so without any hesitation.

I have trained many slaves, the best being the 24/7 boys, but I have never had the opportunity to get a str8 one. I would welcome it because I would think his focus would be more on serving, rather than gratifying some ulterior erotic fetish agenda. Do any str8 wannabe slaveboys here have the man-balls to relocate as a gay Master's bitch? Email me.

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RE: Gay guys domming straight guys - 7/30/2010 2:25:35 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Master4536

It exists (str8 male slave serving a gay Master). A gay Master friend of mine had one of his friends, a str8 female Domme, send him a str8 slaveboy for a weekend of training and humiliation. The slave had some idea that he was being transported to another Master's home (all clothes and ID 30 miles away), but he had no idea he'd be serving a man, especially a gay one. I can understand the mind-fuck dynamics caused by this type of humiliation where the str8 male slave is probably facing for the first time in his life the same objectification he gives women, and whatever sex/erotic component of his enslavement is gone. And, yes, after a long two days as another man's bitch toy, he was introduced to some very serious man-on-man sex, and forced to do it right. Just as note, the slave's Domme did stop by several times each day, but the slave had no idea his Domme and the Master were very good friends.

You know you have trained your str8 slave well when you can point to a cock and tell him to suck it and he does so without any hesitation.

I have trained many slaves, the best being the 24/7 boys, but I have never had the opportunity to get a str8 one. I would welcome it because I would think his focus would be more on serving, rather than gratifying some ulterior erotic fetish agenda. Do any str8 wannabe slaveboys here have the man-balls to relocate as a gay Master's bitch? Email me.


Welcome to the Forums.

That's quite a maiden post and I hafta admit I find it intrigueingly disturbing at several levels. Most especially that second last line - "Do any str8 wannabe slaveboys here have the man-balls to relocate as a gay Master's bitch?"

Shameless trolling aside, going against one's apparently true sexuality is how one demonstrates being a real *man*????

To the topic in general, dominating my sub is totally about how I express sexuality and as a hetero, male subs need NOT apply.

Focus.


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RE: Gay guys domming straight guys - 7/30/2010 7:21:15 PM   
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A Couple i served years ago would "loan" me out from time to time. i have served everyone of every persuation. for me, service is service. i am straight, i am attracted to women. i dont see sexual contact during service as sexual, i see it as power exchange. i am all about pushing limits, trying new things and open to all possibilities.
So to answer the opening post, yes, it does happen.

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RE: Gay guys domming straight guys - 7/31/2010 2:44:54 AM   
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I have often played with gay men, it's a nice change.
I often play with TV's, which is also a nice change.
It's compulsion and compliance I enjoy the most.
Your little bitch for the night can be any gender you like.

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RE: Gay guys domming straight guys - 7/31/2010 7:24:11 AM   
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Ok, here is the other side. This sub is a gay male that has submitted to female dominants. The experience is about submission and obedience rather than about sex.
Even if ordered to perform some sort of sexual service, the act is again, obedience, not sexual desire or want

It is a common gay fantasy to force the straight guy to have sex with them. IF the gay dominant ordered the straight slave to suck HIS cock, that is about power. The straight sub would do it as a sign of his submission, not orientation

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RE: Gay guys domming straight guys - 8/3/2010 12:56:31 PM   
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well thank you to everybody that replied, some very interesting points from both sides of the coin. thank you again

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RE: Gay guys domming straight guys - 8/3/2010 1:11:23 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: armybitchboi
Do any Dommes actually send their male subs/slaves out to gay Doms to get used and humiliated etc? i hear a lot of talk about it but have yet to see any evidence of it. So is it true, or just more wank fodder?

Alternatively, do straight Doms ever take on gay slaves? Dont know why they would, but no harm in asking i guess!

Only part that I can answer is that none of my Domme friends have ever "sent" me any of their male subs/slaves.

I know of no gay male Dom that has ever "rec'd" such either.

As to bi-curious.... Christ! They're lined up out-side my door, even as I type.... whether any were "sent" by an unknown to me Domme, can't tell, can I?

I started to type some recent (and not so recent) experiences that are off-post, but don't want to get Mod-slapped. LOL!

ETA:  Maybe if I just disconnect the door-bell.......

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RE: Gay guys domming straight guys - 8/3/2010 2:06:24 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: armybitchboi

Do any Dommes actually send their male subs/slaves out to gay Doms to get used and humiliated etc? i hear a lot of talk about it but have yet to see any evidence of it. So is it true, or just more wank fodder?

Alternatively, do straight Doms ever take on gay slaves? Dont know why they would, but no harm in asking i guess!


I've encountered several situations that include a heterosexual dominant and the submissive/slave is gay or lesbian. Sexual relations are dependent on the parties involved. However, I'm aware of a few that do include that as well. I believe in all instances mentioned they're looking at the bigger picture and believe the relationship provides a level of fulfillment that each are seeking. One that wouldn't be negated by the sexual differences if applicable.

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RE: Gay guys domming straight guys - 8/3/2010 7:57:31 PM   
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I would bet a lot that the answer is no.  Sounds like the fantasy of a man who is not comfortable admitting that he is gay.

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RE: Gay guys domming straight guys - 8/3/2010 9:51:31 PM   
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RE: Gay guys domming straight guys - 8/4/2010 4:31:40 AM   
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I've never seen any real-life variant of this, but for some reason this is an incredibly common fantasy among gay doms.


I think it's a pretty staple fantasy of nominally 'straight' submales, too.  I'd hazard a guess that every submale has a variation of the 'slave on another planet' fantasy.  This goes:  He's somehow spirited to said planet, where he's captured by a woman (women run the planet, natch), who then 'uses him', then lends him around to her friends, included in which will be the occasional male.  

Or  . . . maybe that's just me.  Heh.

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