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jlf1961 -> U.S. drawdown in Iraq proceeding as planned, Obama says (8/2/2010 2:48:49 PM)

U.S. drawdown in Iraq proceeding as planned, Obama says

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Atlanta, Georgia (CNN) -- The Obama administration's planned drawdown of U.S. troops from Iraq is proceeding "as promised" and should lead to an end of America's combat mission there by the end of August, President Barack Obama said Monday.

Plans to reduce the number of U.S. troops in Iraq to 50,000 by the end of this month are on schedule, Obama told the national convention of Disabled American Veterans. At that point, the U.S. mission will shift to the training and support of Iraqi security forces.

A full withdrawal of American troops from Iraq is scheduled to occur by the end of next year.

The war in Iraq "is nearing an end," he said. "As a candidate for president, I pledged to bring the war in Iraq to a responsible end. And that is exactly what we are doing."

While the U.S. military commitment in Iraq is now nearing a conclusion, the president warned, there is still danger there for U.S. troops on the ground.


This ought to make some people happy, I think it is about time.




Politesub53 -> RE: U.S. drawdown in Iraq proceeding as planned, Obama says (8/2/2010 2:58:37 PM)

It should shut a few on here up as well. I lost count of the negative posts on how Obama is doing.




Vendaval -> RE: U.S. drawdown in Iraq proceeding as planned, Obama says (8/2/2010 3:29:09 PM)

I am cautiously optimistic about the current situation in Iraq.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: U.S. drawdown in Iraq proceeding as planned, Obama says (8/2/2010 4:56:28 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

It should shut a few on here up as well. I lost count of the negative posts on how Obama is doing.


Yup. Good results follow continuing GWB's strategy.




Politesub53 -> RE: U.S. drawdown in Iraq proceeding as planned, Obama says (8/2/2010 5:00:40 PM)

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

It should shut a few on here up as well. I lost count of the negative posts on how Obama is doing.


Yup. Good results follow continuing GWB's strategy.


Yep, the strategy of lying to take us all to war, was a political masterpiece that will enshrine his name in the history books. If it wasnt for George making a mess Obama wouldnt be able to fix it. Go George.




Arpig -> RE: U.S. drawdown in Iraq proceeding as planned, Obama says (8/2/2010 6:00:59 PM)

How's the closing of Gitmo coming along?




willbeurdaddy -> RE: U.S. drawdown in Iraq proceeding as planned, Obama says (8/2/2010 6:27:55 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


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ORIGINAL: Politesub53

It should shut a few on here up as well. I lost count of the negative posts on how Obama is doing.


Yup. Good results follow continuing GWB's strategy.


Yep, the strategy of lying to take us all to war, was a political masterpiece that will enshrine his name in the history books.



Too bad it never happened, and repeating this bullshit ad nauseum doesnt change the facts.




Arpig -> RE: U.S. drawdown in Iraq proceeding as planned, Obama says (8/2/2010 7:02:52 PM)

O come on Willbe...someone lied about WMDs and al Qaeda in Iraq. Mayne Bush was lied to and really didn't know (hard to believe) but somewhere down the line somebody made some shit up and W bought it hook line and sinker...so either he knowingly lied or he was dumb enough to buy somebody's bullshit on the topic...not that noble a defense....he was too dumb.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: U.S. drawdown in Iraq proceeding as planned, Obama says (8/2/2010 10:08:57 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Arpig

O come on Willbe...someone lied about WMDs and al Qaeda in Iraq. Mayne Bush was lied to and really didn't know (hard to believe) but somewhere down the line somebody made some shit up and W bought it hook line and sinker...so either he knowingly lied or he was dumb enough to buy somebody's bullshit on the topic...not that noble a defense....he was too dumb.



Yes...somebody did lie about WMDs. Saddam. And if GWB was too dumb so was every intelligence agency in the world, Tony Blair and so on and so on and so on.

As far as aQ in Iraq, all Bush ever said was that there was contact, the same thing that the 9/11 commission found. He never claimed a collaborative relationship.




Owner59 -> RE: U.S. drawdown in Iraq proceeding as planned, Obama says (8/2/2010 10:15:29 PM)

Saddam didn`t make up stories about un-manned planes attacking the U.S.


You neo-cons did.




MrRodgers -> RE: U.S. drawdown in Iraq proceeding as planned, Obama says (8/2/2010 11:16:13 PM)

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

O come on Willbe...someone lied about WMDs and al Qaeda in Iraq. Mayne Bush was lied to and really didn't know (hard to believe) but somewhere down the line somebody made some shit up and W bought it hook line and sinker...so either he knowingly lied or he was dumb enough to buy somebody's bullshit on the topic...not that noble a defense....he was too dumb.

Yes...somebody did lie about WMDs. Saddam. And if GWB was too dumb so was every intelligence agency in the world, Tony Blair and so on and so on and so on.

As far as aQ in Iraq, all Bush ever said was that there was contact, the same thing that the 9/11 commission found. He never claimed a collaborative relationship.

Not again with this pablum we are to swallow ?

First, almost every intelligence agency around the world was ignored by ours when warned about 9/11 and Obama's opponents when it suits them do not rely upon those other intelligence agencies when it comes to our security needs in any case.

Also, the contact between Saddom and Al-Quaida was well known throughout the world's intelligence community. The huge difference is that while Bush & Co. said it meant collaboration and clearly implied it an additional threat...the rest of the world and even our own intelligence regime knew that Saddom saw Al-Quada as a threat, told them so and kicked them out...never to be seen again.

Until that is when ? After we intentionally created a political vacuum and they walked back in and raised hell and with whom ? Those that were thrown in Abu Garib who understood going in...hated our guts coming out. We even created a name for some...FRE's or former regime 'elements.' That was the first GWB strategy to create war, prolong war and the profits a great example of which is not only Blackwater and Haliburton but a pal of George's gets to set up an oil 'company' off shore and make $millions just to broker American oil to Iraq.

Then when the politics at home didn't play well for re-election and to keep congress in-line..., we sent in a new general whose surge was nothing more than going from not paying them $100/mo to actually paying them $300/mo. What a great deal ? That's a great return on our capitalist's investment in this war.

As for the 9/11 commission ? I am supposed to believe anything in it when they failed completely to investigate a $100,000 payment prior to 9/11 from a Pakistani Intel officer to an alleged conspirator in Florida ?

AND...would have us believe that on 9/11, two 60 ton airliners...vaporized [sic] on contact ?




Sanity -> RE: U.S. drawdown in Iraq proceeding as planned, Obama says (8/3/2010 3:37:04 AM)


Whats this "as planned" business. Didnt Obama campaign om abandoning the Iraqi people immediately upon taking office?




servantforuse -> RE: U.S. drawdown in Iraq proceeding as planned, Obama says (8/3/2010 5:46:23 AM)

You want nausium. How about Obama taking credit for the surge in Irac. How many times did he say it wouldn't work?




Sanity -> RE: U.S. drawdown in Iraq proceeding as planned, Obama says (8/3/2010 5:59:12 AM)


Its interesting how victory in Iraq is now possibly one of Obamas "great achievements".


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Vice President Biden: Iraq "Could Be One of the Great Achievements of This Administration"





servantforuse -> RE: U.S. drawdown in Iraq proceeding as planned, Obama says (8/3/2010 6:00:52 AM)

Just remember..Bush lied.




mnottertail -> RE: U.S. drawdown in Iraq proceeding as planned, Obama says (8/3/2010 6:14:52 AM)

Well, Bush lying and our getting out of Iraq are all well and fine, however:

it is ad nauseAm.

it means TO NAUSEA not TO NAUSEU.







servantforuse -> RE: U.S. drawdown in Iraq proceeding as planned, Obama says (8/3/2010 6:27:59 AM)

Thanks for the spelling lesson. I went to a public school controlled by liberals.




mnottertail -> RE: U.S. drawdown in Iraq proceeding as planned, Obama says (8/3/2010 6:39:19 AM)

you should have paid attention, its obvious that you did not.




servantforuse -> RE: U.S. drawdown in Iraq proceeding as planned, Obama says (8/3/2010 6:41:37 AM)

I later found out that my english teacher was related to Joe Biden. I had no chance from the get go.




Louve00 -> RE: U.S. drawdown in Iraq proceeding as planned, Obama says (8/3/2010 7:08:59 AM)

Well, you guys can argue about it all til the cows come home...soldiers in this case.  We all know which wars started under which regime and which wars are ending under which regime.  All the inbetween chatter is just that.....inbetween chatter.

**editted to add...Personally I'm glad the war in Iraq is ending.  It'll free up some money for that budget ya'll are also arguing over.  Next to work on is Afghanistan. 




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