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RE: Beck’s Holocaust comments prompt " meeting&q... - 8/4/2010 11:56:14 PM

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When it comes to politics, Obama and Bush are proof that both parties finally Jumped the Shark.

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RE: Beck’s Holocaust comments prompt " meeting&q... - 8/4/2010 11:58:55 PM

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You`re full of shit.

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RE: Beck’s Holocaust comments prompt " meeting&q... - 8/5/2010 12:01:14 AM

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You`re full of shit.

My AP social studies teacher thought the same thing, when I predicted the Berlin Wall was gonna be torn town within 10 years. LOL I'm used to it.

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RE: Beck’s Holocaust comments prompt " meeting&q... - 8/5/2010 12:03:05 AM

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When it comes to politics, Obama and Bush are proof that both parties finally Jumped the Shark.

Well that's just foolish.

The democratic weakness is congress. The evidence is the Obama presidency. Granted, it's still better to have corrupt democrats that are pussified than republicans with the majority. I'll take having almost completely watered down progress over going back to the stoneage.

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RE: Beck’s Holocaust comments prompt " meeting&q... - 8/5/2010 12:03:47 AM

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You`re full of shit.

Seriously both the Democratic and Republican parties are Jumping the Shark.

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RE: Beck’s Holocaust comments prompt " meeting&q... - 8/5/2010 1:46:08 AM

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What people that listen to that god damned fucktard Beck forget, is he started out as a fucking Morning Zoo DJ, and to this day that is still his schtick . One of his "stunts" from his days in Phoenix was to call the wife of a rival, and verbally berate her husband, and rag on her over her having a miscarriage. THIS WAS DONE ON AIR AND THE THERE ARE STILL "TAPES" OF IT AVAILABLE. That is the mentality of Beck and his followers, no decent human being I know would ever do shit like that.

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RE: Beck’s Holocaust comments prompt " meeting&q... - 8/5/2010 3:18:07 AM

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You make me laugh. Discussing the president or the far left in the political threads is obviously pretty normal. Whats Abnormal is your denying that. Whats Abnormal is how you on the far left obsess every day over a cable news channel... how you hate other people exercising their free speech rights, essentially.

How many anti-CNN or anti-MSNBC threads do you see running? Do you deny that Olbermann and Maddow are as bad, or even worse than Beck, or anyone else?

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What does that say about you bringing up Obama or "The left" or democrats in every single thread you post in, 3/4ths of the time while it isn't relevant?

How obsessed are you?

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RE: Beck’s Holocaust comments prompt " meeting&q... - 8/5/2010 4:55:16 AM

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Let's go another step Ken - Henry Ford.

That guy didn't need a radio show or anything else, in fact I am pretty sure that during his life he didn't even put radios in his cars. What I have found out is that one side of any issue is very rarely 100% correct.

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RE: Beck’s Holocaust comments prompt " meeting&q... - 8/5/2010 7:57:14 AM

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I'm sick of hearing stories about the damn Holocaust!! Seriously, this is now history! Seriously if you go back in the history books and look at ancient war practices. People would conquer a city, kill off the men, burn books and distroy cultural things of that society. Guess what? This is even part of Jewish history itself. I'm so sick of people painting their past cultures out to be so squeeky clean. Seriously WWII ended a long time ago. No more Jews are getting killed in camps. This is history! If people want to go on and on about it. Why not talk about the Mass Murder of people in Japan from the H-Bombs? Shall we talk about how the US put trade regulations upon things during the Word War, to a point that if effected the Swiss in trying to arm and defend itself? There's a lot of bad things that went down.

Anyways, like I said.. nobody is tossing Jews into camps and The Nazi party is not ruling the world (that game got shot down a long time ago).

So, you're saying that the Holocaust should be excused or forgotten because it happened before in History, that one huge horror justifies the next?

No more Jews are getting killed in camps but the Jew hatred that preceded the Holocaust for 1500 years in Christian Europe continues today.

Additionally, your analogy to previous atrocities fails because in this one the German Jews were betrayed by the German Govt and the German people. Similar betrayals took place in most other European nations. In some, especially in Eastern Europe entire villages of Jews were wiped out by their Christian neighbors.

You cite history but you are really quite ignorant of history. You should read a bit.

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RE: Beck’s Holocaust comments prompt " meeting&q... - 8/5/2010 8:37:23 AM

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You make me laugh. Discussing the president or the far left in the political threads is obviously pretty normal. Whats Abnormal is your denying that. Whats Abnormal is how you on the far left obsess every day over a cable news channel... how you hate other people exercising their free speech rights, essentially.

How many anti-CNN or anti-MSNBC threads do you see running? Do you deny that Olbermann and Maddow are as bad, or even worse than Beck, or anyone else?

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What does that say about you bringing up Obama or "The left" or democrats in every single thread you post in, 3/4ths of the time while it isn't relevant?

How obsessed are you?

Ya dude, all the posting that I've done about it.

Every post you make, you categorize and lump anyone not ascribing to your world view into a neat little box of bullshit you call "the left". If there's a thread about Bush, you have to toss in Obama. Fuck, if there's a thread about REAGAN or the effects his economic policies have on the current state of the economy, you have to jump in braying about the left.

Hunk gets annoying with the constant conspiracy theories, but your attempts to derail every single thread that you don't like are pathetic. But then again, based on most of your posts, you seem to fit that description as well.

And it's not a matter of free speech, it's a matter of reporting opinions based in anything but fact AS NEWS.

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RE: Beck’s Holocaust comments prompt " meeting&q... - 8/5/2010 8:44:24 AM

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Are you now going to jump on the ones from the left who do the same thing to the ones on the right?

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RE: Beck’s Holocaust comments prompt " meeting&q... - 8/5/2010 9:01:04 AM

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If they do so continuously in a dozen threads, as obviously and obnoxiously, yeah... sure.

It's sad when the dinosaur with a messiah complex is out-trolled.

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RE: Beck’s Holocaust comments prompt " meeting&q... - 8/5/2010 9:15:09 AM

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So, you're saying that the Holocaust should be excused or forgotten because it happened before in History, that one huge horror justifies the next?

Vincent what I'm expressing is that this ain't WWII. People need to stop making direct references to Nazi and Jew stuff trying to play upon emotional reactions. You can convey the exact same concerns and issues without having to use the words Nazi or Jew. If anything dragging it into things threaten to undermine the message being expressed to people. Too many people have used this to time and time again to capitalize upon people's fears, it's reaching a point where it's no longer effective. If anything it has the exact opposite effect. Perhaps using the spanish inquisition would be a better example, one that not so beaten to death by every other wingnut in the book.

Hitler was Hitler, trying to compared modern day leaders to him... seriously people just won't make the full connection. Also trying to label either political party on par with the Nazi's seriously. People won't make the mental connection either. Address the issues without the name calling or label comparison using what we know about History! Now that's the way to go about it. It's good to know history and we should take what we know about it and use it. Do you see the point I'm trying to make or get across here?

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RE: Beck’s Holocaust comments prompt " meeting&q... - 8/5/2010 10:02:27 AM

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Its a lie anyway. Not every post I make is about Obama or the left, he just can't deny the point I made so he resorts to attacking the messenger as a means of deflection. Besides, I'm pretty sure that the posts on here were pretty heavily about Bush during the last administration. So whats the problem if Obamas name comes up?

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Are you now going to jump on the ones from the left who do the same thing to the ones on the right?

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RE: Beck’s Holocaust comments prompt " meeting&q... - 8/5/2010 10:16:23 AM

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RE: Beck’s Holocaust comments prompt " meeting&q... - 8/5/2010 11:27:42 AM

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So, you're saying that the Holocaust should be excused or forgotten because it happened before in History, that one huge horror justifies the next?

Vincent what I'm expressing is that this ain't WWII. People need to stop making direct references to Nazi and Jew stuff trying to play upon emotional reactions. You can convey the exact same concerns and issues without having to use the words Nazi or Jew. If anything dragging it into things threaten to undermine the message being expressed to people. Too many people have used this to time and time again to capitalize upon people's fears, it's reaching a point where it's no longer effective. If anything it has the exact opposite effect. Perhaps using the spanish inquisition would be a better example, one that not so beaten to death by every other wingnut in the book.

Hitler was Hitler, trying to compared modern day leaders to him... seriously people just won't make the full connection. Also trying to label either political party on par with the Nazi's seriously. People won't make the mental connection either. Address the issues without the name calling or label comparison using what we know about History! Now that's the way to go about it. It's good to know history and we should take what we know about it and use it. Do you see the point I'm trying to make or get across here?

Thanx for the clarification. Your position is much more agreeable as rewritten.

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RE: Beck’s Holocaust comments prompt " meeting&q... - 8/5/2010 11:31:52 AM

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Cant we just put all the show hosts like beck from both the left and the right into a FEMA detention camp?

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RE: Beck’s Holocaust comments prompt " meeting&q... - 8/5/2010 11:46:31 AM

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Not sure there is a left-wing equivalent to Beck or rush,or hanity or malkin.

Rightist will say that MSM hosts are the equivalent,but that`s bull shit.

They operate in a reality base where facts and accuracy matter.

fox is kinda the anti-accuracy outlet where disinformation is the purpose and ignorance is the goal.

Murdock knows he needs to flirt with the devil like this to get the ratings cons coo about.He also has to spank beck or look like the devil`s fucktoy.

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RE: Beck’s Holocaust comments prompt " meeting&q... - 8/5/2010 11:48:53 AM

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Not sure there is a left-wing equivalent to Beck or rush,or hanity or malkin.

Rightist will say that MSM hosts are the equivalent,but that`s bull shit.

They operate in a reality base where facts and accuracy matter.

fox is kinda the anti-accuracy outlet where disinformation is the purpose and ignorance is the goal.

Murdock knows he needs to flirt with the devil like this to get the ratings cons coo about.He also has to spank beck or look like the devil`s fucktoy.

Tell the Big Lie often enough it becomes truth.

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RE: Beck’s Holocaust comments prompt " meeting&q... - 8/5/2010 11:56:54 AM

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I'll bet there are a lot of kindergartners who are capable of writing posts that show a higher degree of maturity than this one.

Ever try attacking the subject as opposed to other forum members? Try and step it up a notch, Luce.

PS - Im not attacking you, I am talking about this individual post, though this is about on par with a lot of your posts of late.

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