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Chinese missile could shift Pacific power balance - 8/6/2010 2:53:20 AM   
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Chinese missile could shift Pacific power balance

ABOARD THE USS GEORGE WASHINGTON – Nothing projects U.S. global air and sea power more vividly than supercarriers. Bristling with fighter jets that can reach deep into even landlocked trouble zones, America's virtually invincible carrier fleet has long enforced its dominance of the high seas.

China may soon put an end to that.

U.S. naval planners are scrambling to deal with what analysts say is a game-changing weapon being developed by China — an unprecedented carrier-killing missile called the Dong Feng 21D that could be launched from land with enough accuracy to penetrate the defenses of even the most advanced moving aircraft carrier at a distance of more than 1,500 kilometers (900 miles).

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20100805/ap_on_re_as/as_china_us_carrier_killer



AP – In this July 25, 2010 photo, crew of the USS George Washington line up on the deck as the supercarrier … .




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RE: Chinese missile could shift Pacific power balance - 8/6/2010 5:45:22 AM   
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RE: Chinese missile could shift Pacific power balance - 8/6/2010 6:23:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		an unprecedented carrier-killing missile called the Dong Feng 21D that could be launched from land with enough accuracy to penetrate the defenses of even the most advanced moving aircraft carrier at a distance of more than 1,500 kilometers (900 miles).


Maybe the navy could stop by harbor freight and pick up a few?

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RE: Chinese missile could shift Pacific power balance - 8/6/2010 6:24:59 AM   
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Clever to bribe the Clintons a paltry sum in exchange for allowing the transfer of our ballistic missile technology over to them perhaps.

That, or we were stupid to have elected the Clintons to office.

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Damn clever these heathen chinee.


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RE: Chinese missile could shift Pacific power balance - 8/6/2010 6:25:49 AM   
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Status: offline 		Just checked with Harbor Freight, and they only have Dong Feng 21Cs, apparently the 21D will not be introduced into the US market until the next war, which should be sometime after the mid-terms if certain folks have their way. 

Hey, Huntie, did you ever unscrew the backs of claymores and use the C4 scrapings to make hot coffee?

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RE: Chinese missile could shift Pacific power balance - 8/6/2010 6:36:05 AM   
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Clever to bribe the Clintons a paltry sum in exchange for allowing the transfer of our ballistic missile technology over to them perhaps.

That, or we were stupid to have elected the Clintons to office.

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Damn clever these heathen chinee.



Schlau, aber nicht wahr.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-srv/politics/special/missile/keystories.htm

It was you beloved and benign and paternally minded corporations what did that.  But you sure are running about a 100% wrong
track record, gotta admire the stats.

But thats just a medium range ballistic and I don't quite see the issue.  Are we looking to go in ships to China first wave?  Jesus, that's so 1800's.

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RE: Chinese missile could shift Pacific power balance - 8/6/2010 6:37:36 AM   
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Just checked with Harbor Freight, and they only have Dong Feng 21Cs, apparently the 21D will not be introduced into the US market until the next war, which should be sometime after the mid-terms if certain folks have their way. 

Hey, Huntie, did you ever unscrew the backs of claymores and use the C4 scrapings to make hot coffee?



I have used c4 for a number of "unauthorized" purposes...fishing was one of my favorites.

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RE: Chinese missile could shift Pacific power balance - 8/6/2010 6:40:01 AM   
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RE: Chinese missile could shift Pacific power balance - 8/6/2010 6:52:12 AM   
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RE: Chinese missile could shift Pacific power balance - 8/6/2010 7:13:26 AM   
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Well, it was killing so you were within the mission, my estimation. 



If done properly it only stuns and does not kill thus allowing one to pick what one likes best for dinner and allow the others to become someone elses dinner at a later date.
I have also used a "gibson girl" for the same function...they do not make near as much noise.

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RE: Chinese missile could shift Pacific power balance - 8/6/2010 12:21:09 PM   
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cP6GpAnmAPU

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RE: Chinese missile could shift Pacific power balance - 8/6/2010 1:47:10 PM   
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RE: Chinese missile could shift Pacific power balance - 8/6/2010 1:52:44 PM   
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RE: Chinese missile could shift Pacific power balance - 8/6/2010 1:58:11 PM   
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RE: Chinese missile could shift Pacific power balance - 8/6/2010 2:34:44 PM   
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"The panel's report is the most comprehensive review so far of evidence that Hughes Electronics Corp. and Loral Space & Communications Ltd. shared sensitive U.S. technologies as they pursued commercial relations in China. The committee's findings appeared to include detailed criticism of the Clinton administration's policy of loosening high-tech export restrictions as a way to promote trade. "

(That what your link leads to)

Does anything but back up Sanity's point.




Yall can get back to your circle jerk now.

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RE: Chinese missile could shift Pacific power balance - 8/6/2010 2:35:47 PM   
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RE: Chinese missile could shift Pacific power balance - 8/6/2010 2:48:00 PM   
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Yet you haven't cited anything at all disproving Sanity's point.

Like I said a circle jerk


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RE: Chinese missile could shift Pacific power balance - 8/6/2010 2:52:48 PM   
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And I didn't say that;. and it is utterly reprehensible and common of you to impute that, I am a goddamn veteran, served my country when you were shitting mustard in your diapers.   

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RE: Chinese missile could shift Pacific power balance - 8/6/2010 2:56:20 PM   
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Figgures that you would be glad that our ships can now get blown to hell killing thousands of Sailors at a time.



Yet you haven't cited anything at all disproving Sanity's point.

Like I said a circle jerk


carry on





In context.
Panel Faults Space Aid to China






Special committee leaders Rep. Christopher Cox (R-Calif.), left, and Rep. Norman Dicks (D-Wash.) speak to reporters Wednesday. (AP)
By John Mintz
Washington Post Staff Writer
Thursday, December 31, 1998; Page A1
Two American aerospace companies damaged U.S. national security when they provided Chinese space engineers with technical rocketry data that could have assisted Beijing's ballistic missile program, a House committee concluded yesterday in a classified 700-page report.
The panel's report is the most comprehensive review so far of evidence that Hughes Electronics Corp. and Loral Space & Communications Ltd. shared sensitive U.S. technologies as they pursued commercial relations in China. The committee's findings appeared to include detailed criticism of the Clinton administration's policy of loosening high-tech export restrictions as a way to promote trade.

you are as intelectually dishonest as you are on face.

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RE: Chinese missile could shift Pacific power balance - 8/6/2010 3:12:13 PM   
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That our ships are no longer safe.

And can be blown to hell killing thousands of our Sailors at a time.


How are you not grasping that Clinton changed the law allowing the transfer to happen?



And this,
"you are as intelectually dishonest as you are on face."

Is just funny. Its jibberish, 'as you are on face'

What does "are on face" suppossed to mean?


And you misspelled "intellectually".







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