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vincentML -> RE: Christopher Hitchens Dying of Cancer (8/13/2010 8:10:47 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Kirata
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ORIGINAL: vincentML
LMAO!! A typical Karata escape mechanism.... taking a phrase out of context and then skipping away.
Taking a phrase "out of context" suggests deceptively representing it to have a meaning different than it had in context. Since you accuse me of having done this, perhaps you will clarify for me the correct meaning of:
You are quite mistaken. My remaining true to my own philosophy in the face of your criticism is not particularly brave.
In particular, I am greatly concerned to know where I suggested that you were brave. Because I assure you most sincerely that I do not find you to be brave in the slightest, in any way shape or form, and if you will only please show me where I may have appeared to suggest otherwise you shall have my promptest apology.
Thanking you in advance,
K.
I thought you had dismissed me but here you are back again. How bold you are.
For your information here's what the thread is about. I wrote:
"I posted the video because I think it is a gutsy interview. If the man were cowardly he could have simply crawled away to die. But no, he has the balls to stand and confront and defend his position at his lowest point while there are as he says online groups praying for his death to be painful. Shows me a lot of admirable character."
If you had read this you would have understood I was praising Hitchens for his guts in giving the interview despite his multitude of critics. That is what I found admirable. Not just the remaining true to his philosophy but the public manner in which he did it. I reiterated my praise for his public bravery when I said to you,
"You are quite mistaken. My remaining true to my own philosophy in the face of your criticism is not particularly brave. Here we are two strangers exchanging points anonymously on a fetish board, after all. Your opposition is taken quite lightly (as you take mine of course) so I demonstrate nothing admirable in responding to you. For you to seek an analogy in my response to you is bollocks, since Hitchens stands (or sits with drink in hand) and remains true to his course quite publicly in the face of a multitude of critics. Again, a sorry ass attempt to draw an equivalency by you."
Nowhere in that paragraph did I claim that you ever suggested I was brave. I myself acknowledged that my writing on these boards with anonymity was not brave. A careful reading of both paragraphs will show I was always talking about the public nature of Hitchen's action.
When I said "You are mistaken" I was replying to this comment from you: "You praised Hitchens for qualities that are not in and of themselves anything admirable. For example, you are 'remaining true to your philosophy' here in your response to me." You obviously misunderstood what the thread was about. Obvious to me. That's why I said you are mistaken.
I am baffled how you can take that one sentence out and twist it as you did to suggest I claimed you had called me brave. In fact even a casual reading of the entire post #56 will confirm I was talking about bravery of the public nature of Hitchen's interview. Jeez man, how many times do I have to say it before you get it? It was you after all who tried to make the equivalency with Hitler who as I pointed out crawled away into his hole to kill himself.
I am not surprised. You did the same with my words "reasoned debate" and twisted them into the accusation "Shallow and incapable of reason, eh?" I have seen you do this before. You pick out a sentence, assign your own meaning to it and then use that as an excuse to be dismissive. Quite an arrogant tactic I think.
An apology from you? Please don't flatter yourself. I would not value an apology from you. I only ask that you stop changing the meaning of what I write to suit your own devices.
I accused you in #56 of making mistaken or false equivalencies. I also pointed out that the Hitler card is played out. Warning ... Substance. The line above contains the substance !!!
Do you respond to the substance of what i wrote? No. Why not? Do you yet understand the substance of what I wrote? I think you do but you choose to ignore it.
Like a petulant child you assign your own irrelevant meaning to one line, cry out at it and run away. Bah!
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