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foxNews Hyping Stories To Scare White People...WTF? - 8/6/2010 8:46:38 PM   
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Or making stories up to scare whites.

"Fox News' 50-state Southern strategy"

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/joan_walsh/politics/2010/07/25/fox_news_southern_strategy

"Bipartisan agreement: Fox-hyped New Black Panthers case is a phony scandal"

http://mediamatters.org/research/201007170012

The ACORN fake scandle.....scandle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6b7Z8CzJgI

"Fox News To White People: Be Very Afraid! Black People Are Coming To Get You!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgvBdlD7xUk&feature=related

The Shirley Sherrod character assignation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptbuIme-iCc&feature=related

Notice how foxnews misleads viewers into thinking Obama is discriminated against white.That that is a lie is one thing.That it`s a race-baiting lie designed to scare whites makes it that much worse.

Why exactly did fox that?Why did they go there?To what ends are they doing this?

As Lettermen said:

"These people are continuing to fan this flame......but it`s cancer,I mean leave it alone,let it go away,it`s not right,why?There are other problems now that need to be addressed........."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84ujLJBJJ4g


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RE: foxNews Hyping Stories To Scare White People...WTF? - 8/6/2010 8:59:36 PM   
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I was wondering where the daily hate spew against FOX NEWS was...

Ever wonder why there are no threads about CNN or MSNBC, or the New York Times or Newsweek?




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RE: foxNews Hyping Stories To Scare White People...WTF? - 8/6/2010 9:03:05 PM   
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Argumentum ad hominem.

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RE: foxNews Hyping Stories To Scare White People...WTF? - 8/6/2010 9:04:41 PM   
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I love Rachel Maddow too...lol

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RE: foxNews Hyping Stories To Scare White People...WTF? - 8/6/2010 9:09:43 PM   
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I was wondering where the daily hate spew against FOX NEWS was...

Ever wonder why there are no threads about CNN or MSNBC, or the New York Times or Newsweek?





Because of their more rational and reasoned approach to presenting real news.
 
How dense are you not to grasp that.
 
And don't quote viewing figures back, that just proves widespread density.
 
I hope your kid didn't inherit their brains from your side of the gene pool.

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RE: foxNews Hyping Stories To Scare White People...WTF? - 8/6/2010 9:24:37 PM   
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Oh yeah, Olbermann and company are the very essence of "rational" and "reasoned".



In reality there are tons of material that could be posted about the media nitwits on the far left.

You might come visit some time...


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Because of their more rational and reasoned approach to presenting real news.
 
How dense are you not to grasp that.
 
And don't quote viewing figures back, that just proves widespread density.
 
I hope your kid didn't inherit their brains from your side of the gene pool.







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RE: foxNews Hyping Stories To Scare White People...WTF? - 8/6/2010 10:09:56 PM   
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Maybe because they don't engage in character assassination?

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RE: foxNews Hyping Stories To Scare White People...WTF? - 8/6/2010 10:19:35 PM   
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Well according to this book I'm reading the reason it works is because the Republicans are the only one who even pay lip service to trying to court the dumb redneck vote, when liberals see stuff like this they think "wow what racist pieces of shit" and while both sides might think that rednecks are pieces of shit, they're going to vote for the side who at least pretends not to.

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RE: foxNews Hyping Stories To Scare White People...WTF? - 8/6/2010 10:23:34 PM   
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Well according to this book I'm reading the reason it works is because the Republicans are the only one who even pay lip service to trying to court the dumb redneck vote, when liberals see stuff like this they think "wow what racist pieces of shit" and while both sides might think that rednecks are pieces of shit, they're going to vote for the side who at least pretends not to.


Proves what rednecked pieces of shit they are.

I would truly love a world with about 75, okay 60% less pretending going on.

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RE: foxNews Hyping Stories To Scare White People...WTF? - 8/6/2010 10:41:47 PM   
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Proves what rednecked pieces of shit they are.

I would truly love a world with about 75, okay 60% less pretending going on.


Well according to the book, people who work 10 hours a day in a factory doing mind numbing repetitive tasks tend to listen to talk radio a lot, and they naturally gravitate toward the programs about "good hardworking real Americans" as opposed to an NPR program about blood diamonds or the arts. And because some of what those conservative talk radio people say makes sense (examples being liberal gun control laws not taking into account people who hunt deer for meat, or the fuss awhile ago about the Boy Scouts being a "hate group" when rednecks know that the Boy Scouts give their sons a sense of community, etc) they're going to be more open to listening to the rest of what that talking head has to say.

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RE: foxNews Hyping Stories To Scare White People...WTF? - 8/7/2010 1:23:12 AM   
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Or making stories up to scare whites.

"Fox News' 50-state Southern strategy"

http://www.salon.com/news/opinion/joan_walsh/politics/2010/07/25/fox_news_southern_strategy

"Bipartisan agreement: Fox-hyped New Black Panthers case is a phony scandal"

http://mediamatters.org/research/201007170012

The ACORN fake scandle.....scandle.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M6b7Z8CzJgI

"Fox News To White People: Be Very Afraid! Black People Are Coming To Get You!"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qgvBdlD7xUk&feature=related

The Shirley Sherrod character assignation

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ptbuIme-iCc&feature=related

Notice how foxnews misleads viewers into thinking Obama is discriminated against white.That that is a lie is one thing.That it`s a race-baiting lie designed to scare whites makes it that much worse.

Why exactly did fox that?Why did they go there?To what ends are they doing this?

As Lettermen said:

"These people are continuing to fan this flame......but it`s cancer,I mean leave it alone,let it go away,it`s not right,why?There are other problems now that need to be addressed........."

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=84ujLJBJJ4g




Is this really "Brain?"

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RE: foxNews Hyping Stories To Scare White People...WTF? - 8/7/2010 2:39:21 AM   
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Greetings all.....

One quick bit of background....I have a degree in broadcasting and I have worked in both radio and TV (long ago) and worked for magazines and newspapers since then. Since the time I was in college in the 70's all of the studies about conservative/liberal bias in the media have shown that in general, the media and press is more liberal than the US society. This was talked about in some of the classes I took. The only exceptions were studies by very liberal groups who said it was mostly centrist. In other words, very biased reporting. Now...how liberal varied by who did the study of the various forms of media.

Remember....that is not saying there were no conservative media outlets. It said that over all the US media since the later 60's and 70's was more liberal than conservative. From my own experience working inside, I found that to be true. At the newspaper where I worked, most of the editorial and production staff was liberal while the top management was somewhat conservative. This actually balanced things a bit which I consider a good thing.

No, my comments above do not say anything about my political leanings....it is just factual reporting. The studies really do say what I report. Also, it really doesn't matter what one group does or is when it comes to every other group. Yes, FOX is very conservative, but that doesn't mean that MSN or NPR is not very liberal. (Actually, NPR got much less liberal than it used to be while the Republicans controlled both houses of Congress and the presidency.)

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RE: foxNews Hyping Stories To Scare White People...WTF? - 8/7/2010 4:38:34 AM   
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We mischaracterise the situation if we choose to see this as liberal vs conservative media, when what we actually have before us is a broadcaster who is either negligently, recklessly or more likely intentionally misrepresenting news stories in such a way that recipients of its media might be misled and, coming to rely on the "facts" provided by this broadcaster, act in a way that is detrimental to them not to mention the wider society.

That recipients are misled is clear, for no one could argue that the effect of misleading stories is not to mislead. Whether the purpose of this broadcaster is to mislead is another question but one must tend to believe that must be its purpose for otherwise it should have to confess a degree of incompetence, on continuous basis, that should be difficult to believe. Its only real defence is to maintain that its reporting is accurate if interpretive and that it cannot be held responsible for what recipients of its media make of it.

So, misrepresentation and deceit or a confession of strong bias aimed at the stupid - neither of them attractive options I would think. Reasonable conservatives (and Republicans, if there are any reasonable such left) ought to condemn this broadcaster to at least this extent in order to maintain any grip on credibility and, as part of a strategy to winning back the argument through necessary reconstruction of centre right ideology and policy from the sort of near fascist ideology and policy expressed and supported by the bias of this broadcaster, maintain a constant distance from it and condemn it vociferously for its more blatant lies and deceptions.

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RE: foxNews Hyping Stories To Scare White People...WTF? - 8/7/2010 8:00:14 AM   
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{fast reply}

Greetings all.....

One quick bit of background....I have a degree in broadcasting and I have worked in both radio and TV (long ago) and worked for magazines and newspapers since then. Since the time I was in college in the 70's all of the studies about conservative/liberal bias in the media have shown that in general, the media and press is more liberal than the US society. This was talked about in some of the classes I took. The only exceptions were studies by very liberal groups who said it was mostly centrist. In other words, very biased reporting. Now...how liberal varied by who did the study of the various forms of media.

Remember....that is not saying there were no conservative media outlets. It said that over all the US media since the later 60's and 70's was more liberal than conservative. From my own experience working inside, I found that to be true. At the newspaper where I worked, most of the editorial and production staff was liberal while the top management was somewhat conservative. This actually balanced things a bit which I consider a good thing.

No, my comments above do not say anything about my political leanings....it is just factual reporting. The studies really do say what I report. Also, it really doesn't matter what one group does or is when it comes to every other group. Yes, FOX is very conservative, but that doesn't mean that MSN or NPR is not very liberal. (Actually, NPR got much less liberal than it used to be while the Republicans controlled both houses of Congress and the presidency.)

Be well all....

Malkinius




What a bunch of crap.

"The studies really do say what I report"

Name these "studies"?

Links and authors.

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RE: foxNews Hyping Stories To Scare White People...WTF? - 8/7/2010 8:07:21 AM   
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Bullshit. 059 is presenting Maddow (for example) as a basis for his cut-and-paste  argument, which Maddow and friends are pure trash. The far left animosity towards FOX is based solely on the fact that it isnt extremely liberally biased as the rest of the media has traditionally been. Leftists cant stand that they no longer have their monopoly on the media and its driving them completely insane.

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We mischaracterise the situation if we choose to see this as liberal vs conservative media, when what we actually have before us is a broadcaster who is either negligently, recklessly or more likely intentionally misrepresenting news stories in such a way that recipients of its media might be misled and, coming to rely on the "facts" provided by this broadcaster, act in a way that is detrimental to them not to mention the wider society.

That recipients are misled is clear, for no one could argue that the effect of misleading stories is not to mislead. Whether the purpose of this broadcaster is to mislead is another question but one must tend to believe that must be its purpose for otherwise it should have to confess a degree of incompetence, on continuous basis, that should be difficult to believe. Its only real defence is to maintain that its reporting is accurate if interpretive and that it cannot be held responsible for what recipients of its media make of it.

So, misrepresentation and deceit or a confession of strong bias aimed at the stupid - neither of them attractive options I would think. Reasonable conservatives (and Republicans, if there are any reasonable such left) ought to condemn this broadcaster to at least this extent in order to maintain any grip on credibility and, as part of a strategy to winning back the argument through necessary reconstruction of centre right ideology and policy from the sort of near fascist ideology and policy expressed and supported by the bias of this broadcaster, maintain a constant distance from it and condemn it vociferously for its more blatant lies and deceptions.

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RE: foxNews Hyping Stories To Scare White People...WTF? - 8/7/2010 9:03:39 AM   
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quote:

Since the time I was in college in the 70's all of the studies about conservative/liberal bias in the media have shown that in general, the media and press is more liberal than the US society. This was talked about in some of the classes I took. The only exceptions were studies by very liberal groups who said it was mostly centrist.


Two problems here.

First, this rests on the assumption that popular opinion is centrist. That would be difficult to establish, unless you're also presuming that all information/thought is subjective, in which case it's all imagination, so who cares?

Second, read those studies--it's likely you've primarily been exposed to conclusions about them, not the methodology.

You'll be appalled at what passes for "studies" and at the unsupported conclusions drawn from them.





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RE: foxNews Hyping Stories To Scare White People...WTF? - 8/7/2010 9:09:45 AM   
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Bullshit. 059 is presenting Maddow (for example) as a basis for his cut-and-paste  argument, which Maddow and friends are pure trash. The far left animosity towards FOX is based solely on the fact that it isnt extremely liberally biased as the rest of the media has traditionally been. Leftists cant stand that they no longer have their monopoly on the media and its driving them completely insane.

Clear channel is extremely liberal biased, is it?

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RE: foxNews Hyping Stories To Scare White People...WTF? - 8/7/2010 9:30:48 AM   
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"The biases the media has are much bigger than conservative or liberal. They're about getting ratings, about making money, about doing stories that are easy to cover. "    Al Franken.

When are Americans wake the hell up and see that this quote is the true representation of the media in this nation, the ENTIRE media apparatus is owned by 5 major corporations. There is no "independent" media anymore.  Exactly how liberal is a media owned by 5 major corporations going to be anyway??   Whether or not you like Franken you really can not deny the basic truth of this quote.

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RE: foxNews Hyping Stories To Scare White People...WTF? - 8/7/2010 11:45:47 AM   
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Here's a reply from Bill O'Reilly that was in the Boston Herald.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/opinion/op_ed/view/20100807letterman_panned_for_enabling_race_baiting/

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RE: foxNews Hyping Stories To Scare White People...WTF? - 8/7/2010 12:11:29 PM   
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Here's a reply from Bill O'Reilly that was in the Boston Herald.

http://www.bostonherald.com/news/opinion/op_ed/view/20100807letterman_panned_for_enabling_race_baiting/


For the rest of you, that dont know about the Boston Herald, allow me to explain...

There are two publications in the Boston/New England area of note: The Boston Globe and the Boston Herald. Both are daily publications, that have a readership both in print and online. Here in New England and other parts of the world.

The Boston Globe's format, is the tranditional format: fold-out and open. It's coverage tends to be quite indepth, but due to the economy, it too has had to cut back on things. It is also a liberal newspaper (old school liberal, not new school). It is a step down in complexity from the Wall Street Journal, but several above, the Boston Herald.

The Boston Herald, is a magazine format (like the Star or a less glossy Newsweek). Its coverage is not as indepth as the Boston Globe, and often more full of advertisements then content. It is also, lacks the credibility of the Boston Globe.

Readers of one newspaper tend not to read the other. Boston Globe readers gain more then enough information on subjects. While readers brain's are tired after each marathon of reading of the Boston Herald. To say you get the same stuff for the price, would be like comparing a NASCAR stock, to the Space Shuttle for speed or complexity. It shouldn't surprise anyone, that liberals tend to read the Boston Globe, and conservatives, The Boston Herald.

So, Mr. O'Reilly's comments are irrelavent to me, popeye1250. While I think the guy has started to realize, that by his actions and words, has start to motivate conservative Americans down a very dark and ugly path. Within the last two or three years, he has tried to become more of a 'center' kind of guy, rather then neo-conservative. The court is still out, on whether Mr. O'Reilly is doing it for legitimate reasons (he really doesnt like the direction the GOP is going), or if its for ratings. Then again, I dont watch Mr. Letterman either.

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