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ashtray34 -> ashtray servitude and objectification (4/19/2006 8:05:54 AM)

Dear Superiors. i am a male slave who has a big fetish for objectification i am thoroughly trained and often used this way, but for some reason i am finding it hard to find a genuine Superior who will train me as a live ashtray, even when they smoke!! is there anywhere i can go for this without paying the earth!! also what is the best way of swallowing the butt.

in servitude



MistressLorelei -> RE: ashtray servitude and objectification (4/19/2006 8:20:41 AM)

Well... you  may not be finding a woman  who wants to entertain "your" fetish because most Dominant Females would like to think that they are valued as a person first (not a  servant to a kink), and she will find you worthy of being her ashtray if and only if she decides that she wants to make one out of you. 

Perhaps contact a Domme who has mentioned objectification in her profile and let her know what qualities you have that would be pleasing to her along with those which are pleasing to you.  If that doesn't work, like most anything else in life, if you really want something badly enough... save up your money and buy it.

Edited to add:  You may want to read through the message boards here as it may give you good insight of the mindset of many Dominant Females whom you may end up contacting, and you may find helpful information as to the best way in which to approach them.



EbonyFtshGoddess -> RE: ashtray servitude and objectification (4/19/2006 8:55:47 AM)

many dominants enjoy objectification. it's entirely ok for you to express your wants and desires to your potential domina- it's just up to her whether she wants to entertain that notion or not. a big turn off for most dommes is when a submissive approaches her with a laundry list of wants (not saying you're doing this).. so just offer your services and she'll use you as she sees fit.

as for how to consume the butt that's entirely up to you. when i use my ashtray boy i ash in his mouth or in his open palm (if we're in public and maybe the mouth may be a *wee* bit too much).. when i'm done and we're in private he simply chews it. sometimes i make him hold it in his mouth and suck on it.

it never ceases to shock me how he can do it. but that's what ashtrays are for.




ashtray34 -> RE: ashtray servitude and objectification (4/19/2006 9:44:40 AM)

Thank You Superior for Your post and in answering my question. i am certainly not a slave that has a long list of things, to me thats topping from the bottom. im just a slave dedicated to objectification and being used as an object for my Superiors pleasure as near to 24/7 as possible. This is what makes me tick as a real slave. im just finding this sort of servitude not always easy to find in the uk.



ashtray34 -> RE: ashtray servitude and objectification (4/19/2006 9:49:35 AM)

Thank You Superior for Your advice. i definately value my Superiors as a person more than a servant, i know it might come across that way but this is an area that i would humbly like to progress in so that i can reach my full potential as a male object.



GoddessDustyGold -> RE: ashtray servitude and objectification (4/19/2006 10:52:23 AM)

I looked at your profile, and the essay portion seems to focus on the objectification.  Then I look at your interests, and you have many things listed that would not be objectifiction.  Are you appraching the Dominant Women who interest you with the insistance that this is so important there is little time or true interest in other areas of service?  If so, I can understand that you might be having some difficulty in finding the Mistress you need.  You do seem to be completely driven as an object, rather than a submissive boy who can also be used as an object. You even say your slavery is driven by this and your profile would indicate the same.
You may wish to look at households that have several slaves, in which case you can be the objectified boy, since  you say you wish to get as close as possible to 24/7 in this state of being.  Another option might be presenting yourself to a local Domina who does a great deal of lifestyle entertaining. She might have use for a boy every weekend to act in the capacity that seems to drive you. 
Wishing you luck and welcome to the boards.
 



Proprietrix -> RE: ashtray servitude and objectification (4/19/2006 11:28:44 AM)

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ORIGINAL: GoddessDustyGold
You may wish to look at households that have several slaves, in which case you can be the objectified boy, since  you say you wish to get as close as possible to 24/7 in this state of being. 


I think this is an excellent idea if objectification is what you need.
In addition, most Dommes don't want to have to have a different slave for every aspect of objectification. You may want to consider expanding your horizons so you can offer yourself for other types of objectification. i.e. learn the techniques of learning to be a good footstool, as well as an ashtray.
There is a heavy cross-over sometimes with objectification slaves and ponies sometimes. I know quite a few "stable hands" who are big into objectification. Maybe look for a Domina who owns a stable of ponies and she might have some good uses for you. (You'd also get that extra perk of having ponies as subbie sisters/brothers.)
And there are a lot of Vampire Dominas who adore having slaves who can serve as art.

The possibilities are out there. So don't give up.



ashtray34 -> RE: ashtray servitude and objectification (4/19/2006 11:37:45 AM)

Thank You Superior for Your wise words. i suppose i am object driven but only to emphasise my role as a  complete slave. For me true slavery is being used as an object for my Superiors use,as well as worship, domestication etc. i find that in the uk slaves tend to go for the whip, smack scenarios a lot of the time this is why my advert/profile over states objectification as well as other interests. i dont think i would have this problem iff i lived in the usa or in other parts of europe. Most of the Superiors who have used me for longterm periods all seemed to be from abroad!!



ashtray34 -> RE: ashtray servitude and objectification (4/19/2006 11:46:26 AM)

Thank You Superior for Your encouragement.

i have tried approaching local Dominas but the majority of them allways state that they are not looking for any houseslaves, in fact nearly all of them say this in the uk. i am trained in many forms of objectification and im not just looing for ashtray use, this is the part of my servitude that needs to be improved upon. i have many uses from footstool , candle holder, coat rack etc but for some reason the uk sub/D scene seems to focus on stereotypical play, i.e spanking etc. i prefer a more real lifestyle setting where by the click of a Superiors fingers i become an object of Her desire to be used as Mistress sees fit. this to me is real dedication asa real slave



Misstoyou -> RE: ashtray servitude and objectification (4/19/2006 11:51:00 AM)

I, personally, am big on objectification of my submissive (though I don't smoke. lol) So I am happy when I get letters from submissives with interests that go beyond impact play.

That being said service always has to have priority over kind, and I'm always skeptical of any applicant who has his fetish in his name.

** edited for typo



AAkasha -> RE: ashtray servitude and objectification (4/19/2006 12:10:56 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Misstoyou

I, personally, am big on objectification of my submissive (though I don't smoke. lol) So I am happy when I get letters from submissives with interests that go beyond impact play.

That being said service always has to have priority over kind, and I'm always skeptical of any applicant who has his fetish in his name.

** edited for typo


I will agree - I think subs that have nicks that are "job descriptions" might lose a little credibility out of the gate.  Just a thought.  Another thing that might put a damper on your search is referring to all women as your "Superior" when they didn't necessarily ask/require you do so.   Reading your posts I feel as though you see the femdoms as already a part of your fantasy even in your casual conversation with us here.  I think most femdoms appreciate being treated as an equal or with a normal amount of respect out of the gate, and prefer the "superior" or "Goddess" or whatever their fancy once there's been some rapport in place.

Imagine if a woman posted in the "ask a subs" forum, "I have a question for the male worms.  Worms, what about your pathetic existence turns you on most about ojectification?" and in response to every post said, "Thank you, worm, for your opinion, as useless as it is."

Akasha



Proprietrix -> RE: ashtray servitude and objectification (4/19/2006 12:52:13 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ashtray34
i have tried approaching local Dominas but the majority of them allways state that they are not looking for any houseslaves, in fact nearly all of them say this in the uk.

You could move to lil ole podunk West Virginia USA.
As is evidence by my pic, I obviously have use for an ashtray.   [;)]



Misstoyou -> RE: ashtray servitude and objectification (4/19/2006 12:58:13 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: AAkasha

Imagine if a woman posted in the "ask a subs" forum, "I have a question for the male worms. Worms, what about your pathetic existence turns you on most about ojectification?" and in response to every post said, "Thank you, worm, for your opinion, as useless as it is."



You know you have those "worms" squirming and drooling just reading that, Akasha. lol



MistressNoire -> RE: ashtray servitude and objectification (4/19/2006 1:29:57 PM)

I think it undignified to critcise other's fetishes and dreams.But there again there is nothing more judgmental than minority groups............. Kind of ironic huh? "My kink is better than yours" attitude



AAkasha -> RE: ashtray servitude and objectification (4/19/2006 1:33:57 PM)



quote:

ORIGINAL: MistressNoire

I think it undignified to critcise other's fetishes and dreams.But there again there is nothing more judgmental than minority groups............. Kind of ironic huh? "My kink is better than yours" attitude


Where did you get the impression she was critizing his fetish? I think a few of us have pointed out there might be a better way to present it that will attract non-professional femdoms.

You aren't a pro, are you?
Akasha



ashtray34 -> RE: ashtray servitude and objectification (4/19/2006 4:11:17 PM)

Thank You for Your response.

i have noted what You have said about the fetish being in my name. i am very genuine and feel very honoured when i can be of service to my Superior. i think a change of name is soon in order to avoid any misconceptions as i would like my Superiors to spot my genuineness.



ashtray34 -> RE: ashtray servitude and objectification (4/19/2006 4:18:27 PM)

Dear Superior.

i also agree. i am just trying to be an honest loyal slave who wishes proper servitude by offering myself as an object to be used by my Superior as She ses fit in Her everyday life. to me this is servitude and i feel proud when being used as a simple ashtray by someone i worship



ashtray34 -> RE: ashtray servitude and objectification (4/19/2006 4:22:35 PM)

Thank You.

point taken.its not the fantasy aspect when i write its more out of respect that i use the word Superior andi suppose habbit. The last 2 long term Lady's that i have served have all wnated to be adressed as Superior .



ashtray34 -> RE: ashtray servitude and objectification (4/19/2006 4:28:43 PM)

Iff only i could. i could think of nothing better than serving as Your ashtray. i know where im going on holiday next



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