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black male slaves - 4/19/2006 10:39:28 AM   
blckmlslv


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Status: offline 		I am very happy to see more and more scenes, photos and ads depicting black male slaves. I am a black male sub who has been in the scene for many years. Until lately, though, I saw very few examples of black male subs in the scene. Now, it is becoming common place. Thank goodness.
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RE: black male slaves - 4/19/2006 11:42:10 AM   
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RE: black male slaves - 4/19/2006 1:43:02 PM   
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I was going to advise you to endeavor to be less common, and know who you are, and what you need/want, but reading your profile says you are experienced and scene connected, so hang around and tell us of your experiences.   M

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RE: black male slaves - 4/19/2006 1:57:15 PM   
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Status: offline 		Could you give us some examples of what you mean by commonplace?

Magazines or journals?

Ads?

Books?




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RE: black male slaves - 4/19/2006 1:59:12 PM   
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Status: offline 		The only way I could have a black slave is if he had super thick skin. I live in such a hateful racist neighborhood full of rednecks who have nothing better to do than get drunk and rip on black guys. My neighbors poke fun of my white boys almost mercilessly. I can't even imagine how cruel they'd be to a black boy serving a white Mistress. Just the thought of my drunk neighbor coming over and finding out I had taken another sub male, and then finding out he was black....
Not that it bothers me personally one way or another what any of the local yahoos here in appalachia think of me or mine.. but my slave would have to be able to shrug it off and take it with a grain of salt knowing that the poor dumb hillbillies were just brought up being ignorant.

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RE: black male slaves - 4/19/2006 2:01:37 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Proprietrix
The only way I could have a black slave is if he had super thick skin. I live in such a hateful racist neighborhood full of rednecks who have nothing better to do than get drunk and rip on black guys. My neighbors poke fun of my white boys almost mercilessly. I can't even imagine how cruel they'd be to a black boy serving a white Mistress. Just the thought of my drunk neighbor coming over and finding out I had taken another sub male, and then finding out he was black....


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RE: black male slaves - 4/19/2006 2:11:18 PM   
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Well, you could always start practicing your expertise with bullwhips... using the neighbors for target practice!
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ORIGINAL: Proprietrix
The only way I could have a black slave is if he had super thick skin. I live in such a hateful racist neighborhood full of rednecks who have nothing better to do than get drunk and rip on black guys. My neighbors poke fun of my white boys almost mercilessly. I can't even imagine how cruel they'd be to a black boy serving a white Mistress. Just the thought of my drunk neighbor coming over and finding out I had taken another sub male, and then finding out he was black....
Amen! 
No one insults my boy in my home, and they will know that from me in no uncertain terms; if he/she does cross that boundary, my boy has my permission to toss 'em out on the street.   M

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RE: black male slaves - 4/20/2006 9:10:27 AM   
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Status: offline 		Ms. Proprietrix, your neighbors know what you're up to?  How, and more importantly, why?  Do you have semi nude guys picking cotton out back or something?  Seriously, my neighbors have no idea what goes on in my house.

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RE: black male slaves - 4/20/2006 9:54:30 AM   
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Status: offline 		according to my personal  experience  black male slaves are more  obedient than white  slaves.

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RE: black male slaves - 4/20/2006 10:20:47 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Proprietrix

The only way I could have a black slave is if he had super thick skin. I live in such a hateful racist neighborhood full of rednecks who have nothing better to do than get drunk and rip on black guys. My neighbors poke fun of my white boys almost mercilessly. I can't even imagine how cruel they'd be to a black boy serving a white Mistress. Just the thought of my drunk neighbor coming over and finding out I had taken another sub male, and then finding out he was black....
Not that it bothers me personally one way or another what any of the local yahoos here in appalachia think of me or mine.. but my slave would have to be able to shrug it off and take it with a grain of salt knowing that the poor dumb hillbillies were just brought up being ignorant.


I live in a very multi-cultural place down south, yet racism can appear anywhere it seems.  My family is from 'out in the hills' Ohio by the way.  I am not intending to offend, but I find it very hard to understand...  If I had a drunk neighbor coming over regularly to critique My company... and wouldn't want to think of what he might do to one of them if they were... 'anything'.... I'd consider calling the police or moving. 

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RE: black male slaves - 4/20/2006 11:19:57 AM   
Proprietrix


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Ms. Proprietrix, your neighbors know what you're up to?  How, and more importantly, why?  Do you have semi nude guys picking cotton out back or something?  Seriously, my neighbors have no idea what goes on in my house.


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If I had a drunk neighbor coming over regularly to critique My company... and wouldn't want to think of what he might do to one of them if they were... 'anything'.... I'd consider calling the police or moving. 


I think maybe I should clarify a little better. Didn't mean to give the wrong impression.

I am friends with my neighbors. They are aware of my lifestyle. They often come over and sit on the porch and drink a beer. (Or for some of them, many beers.) while me and my subs continue to live our life in a power exchange manner. I know when I walk in their home, I'm going to see deer antlers hanging on the wall. They know when they walk in my home, they're going to see floggers hanging on the wall.

We also live in a small town. So chances are, if I get a local slave, it's probably someone my neighbors have met. Usually when a new sub starts coming around my house, I don't need to introduce him to my neighbors. It's kind of "Oh, I knew you when you were younger because I used to hang out with your dad" or "I know you because my brother used to work with your uncle". It's a small enough town that you can always find a connection between any two given people.
Having this sense of familiarity in the first place, and knowing that the other person was also born and raised in this community, with this communities belief system (prejudice, excessive drinking, sexism, etc...) it's almost "natural" for one guy to "tease" another. "Oh, so you're into *that* kind of stuff eh? Need a woman to tell you what to do?"

It's not that my neighbors are violently threatening my subs, they are just doing the "typical redneck thing". Being that my subs are usually from this area, and understand the cultural norms of appalachia, they don't take it personally. Hence my statement "but my slave would have to be able to shrug it off and take it with a grain of salt knowing that the poor dumb hillbillies were just brought up being ignorant."

Now, if my neighbors came in and started threatening my submissive, it'd be a different story. But it's more a scenario of "the good ole boys" razzing another "good ole boy" who doesn't adhere to the community norm.

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RE: black male slaves - 4/20/2006 12:30:19 PM   
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Status: offline 		To me, it doesn't matter if it's threatening or not, if they are disrespecting my property - "'good ole boy' razzing" or otherwise, then they are not welcome in my home.  This goes for my computer, my tv, my couch, my clothes, and (saving the best for last) ALL of my pets.  I don't care if it's 'verbal pissing' or actual pissing - if they are pissing on my property, they are asked to leave (and if they don't, then they are removed).  It doesn't matter where they know them from or how long they have known them or what they think of them - they will keep a civil and respectful tongue in their mouth as long as they are guests in my house. 

However, on the other hand, we don't do anything blatent in our house.  The boys fetch us things, give us back/foot rubs if we want/need ... but there are no floggers hanging on the wall and the cuffs are put away unless we are using them.  There is no need for people to see those things so we don't keep them on display for all to see.  There is something to be said for discretion.  If people ask, we tell - but we don't go out of our way to give them cause to ask.  It's none of their business, for the most part, so why bother?

And now, back to the OP - I haven't been searching such pictures out, but I haven't seen any more of them recently than I did 5 or 6 years ago.

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RE: black male slaves - 4/20/2006 1:09:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		We shouldn't give Proprietrix a hard time though.
The truth is we all live with or a round some a**holes, and cannot always control our environment.
We definitely shouldn't stone her because she told of her experience.   M

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RE: black male slaves - 4/20/2006 1:35:05 PM   
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ORIGINAL: SweetDommes
To me, it doesn't matter if it's threatening or not, if they are disrespecting my property - "'good ole boy' razzing" or otherwise, then they are not welcome in my home. 


I can't imagine cutting off my friendships with other people because we razz and kid around and tease each other at times. Nor would I ask my submissive to give up his friendships for that reason.

I'm not talking about ..............
bah.. nevermind. I think it's just a matter of internet communication, and maybe living in different sections of the country or something.

I know in my heart I'm not letting my submissives be mistreated, and that's good enough for me.

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RE: black male slaves - 4/20/2006 1:37:03 PM   
thetammyjo


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Status: offline 		I have never scened with a black man or woman though I have known several in the community in NYC and since leaving there.

However I have been emailed and approached by a few who made race a huge issue. By this I mean they literally said "I want to be owned/used by a white mistress."

That really turned me off not because of the race issue, folks have all sorts of fantasies and I've played with Jewish submissives who wanted religion fantasies, but because it was the only reason they gave for their approaching me.

Yes, I am very white -- auburn hair, freckles, very pale skin, easily burn -- but I personally want to be approached for me not for something I can't control like race or sex.

Any one else have similar experiences?

Does the more "commonplace" of black male slaves in whatever media the OP was discussing reflect this fantasy?


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RE: black male slaves - 4/20/2006 1:59:55 PM   
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However I have been emailed and approached by a few who made race a huge issue. By this I mean they literally said "I want to be owned/used by a white mistress."

I've definitely had many such encounters. 
If I dismissed people for that approach, I would have to discard half of all my emails or chats. 
I don't so much mind someone saying they find brown skin or black women attractive or desire to submit to one for superficial reasons like physical attributes.  
What I usually do dismiss people for is when the fantasy is very much race matters related, and stereotype based.  I don't represent the images in anyone's head unless they were created specifically by me.   It's too heavy a burden on me to try to deconstruct and oftentimes refute what he thinks I need to be like, look like, speak like, act like and feel.  So I leave those boys alone, and keep hoping people will become less ignorant every day.   M 

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RE: black male slaves - 4/20/2006 2:04:25 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ja, all the time (I guess I should say used to, now) Levrone Bennett, Jr. for one, has a chapter or so in his book, "Before the Mayflower". that speaks some of this.  Alotta people forget or perhaps are unaware that the 'peculiar institution' of slavery is an American tragedy for the most part, and British secondarily.  Hol' up there, dawg!  I am speaking of the continuing desire to own humans, while treating this property with such wanton disregard, not slavery in general (which has been with us since time immemorial) or the enslavement of a peoples (most recently Germany, for the express purpose of using them for personal advancement with the overall design of annihilation.  That dark skin looks pretty nice against my cracker white shit.  Fire engine red lipstick on a black woman got it going on.  And so on...

Here is where some of the difficulty lies.  People of colour are only that, people...

You see all the white or transparent people here shaking in there boots about how their world would come crashing down if they were outted that they wanted to run around with or without panties (you know what I mean).  Mom, I want to be a whore in the bedroom and a lady in public.   Mom's martini in the Baccarat goes crashing into the ming vase as she swoons to the fainting couch. Devastating.............

Now, some black man goes.....Mom, I want to be a slave to a woman (color don't enter into this end of the deal)......Motherfucker-- after a hundred years of slavery and lynchin and spittin and name callin.........Wheres my baseball bat? 

It ain't on the same level.

Then they gotta come out here and put up with the other racist shit they do anyway (not that it just exists here).  Or even some well meaning but misguided fool talking about the black/white master/slave shit way too quick and too clumsily.....it just tuckers 'em out I think and they fade away. Kinda like going up to John Wayne when he was alive and doing a John Wayne imitation.(He's thinking, "Well there's something you just don't get to see everyday.......)  
 
I have compressed allota useful side information out of this. Hope it still makes sense to someone.
 
Sincerely,
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RE: black male slaves - 4/20/2006 2:39:56 PM   
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ORIGINAL: BlkTallFullfig

We shouldn't give Proprietrix a hard time though.
The truth is we all live with or a round some a**holes, and cannot always control our environment.
We definitely shouldn't stone her because she told of her experience.   M


Yeah - I'm related to some of prime examples of assholes.  However, those relatives are not welcome in my house.  I don't shun them, but I don't ask them over for dinner either.

I'm not stoning her because of her telling her experience - I'm stating my opinion of it.  If I feel that someone is mistreating or insulting either of our boys, they will be asked to leave.  Her post happened to touch off some feelings because I have issues with the "good ole boy" mentality anyway, and so if it happens in my house, I put a stop to it - I can't control what they do outside of my house, but I damn well can control what they do inside my house, or they won't be in my house.  I have also found that most people who are "teasing"or "razzing around" about things like male submission aren't doing so in a friendly manner.  They have no problems with male Dominants, but always have an undercurrent of honest antagonism and distain for male submissives - especially rednecks (I've lived around them long enough and am related to enough of them to see a pattern here ... maybe your rednecks are different ... but somehow, I doubt it). 

And I'm not saying that friendships should be cut off - but there is a difference between cutting off friendships and allowing certain behaviors in your living space.  I have friends who are not comfortable with the lifestyle choices that we have all made - so they don't come over to our house.  We go out and spend time together, we talk on the phone, we chat online - but if they start to say things that I feel are disrespectful to me or to our boys, then the conversation is ended for the moment and we can talk later.  I explain my opinions/feelings/knowledge on whatever they ask about - if they are honestly curious and wanting to understand, then I have no problems with it.  If they are only digging for dirt, or if they are being derogatory, then I quit answering questions.  I only have one friend who I flat out refuse to talk about WIIWD with ... and that's because of his attitude towards it and our boys.  I'm still friends with him; we just don't discuss that part of my life.

And once again, there is something to be said for discretion.  I live my life how I see fit, and I don't tell others how to live theirs ... but at the same time, I don't leave my lifestyle equipment laying around for any and all to see.  That just opens up the door to more conflicts and issues that I don't feel the need to go into with everyone who comes into my home.  We have friends with unmentionables ... do they need to see our collection of home made floggers?  No ... Does my mother need to see the dildos and vibrators?  No ... We have our play space/bedroom that is off limits to people, and we have our living space that we keep clear of play impliments unless we are using them out there.  I am glad that some people can be that open, but that's not us (for many reasons, but mostly because we are just private people) - and I'm going to state my opinions if people post about being that open with their lifestyle and then mention having neighbors with issues towards it. 

And now I will step out of this thread and not come back.  To the OP, I'm sorry for the highjack.

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RE: black male slaves - 4/20/2006 2:49:26 PM   
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Her post happened to touch off some feelings because I have issues with the "good ole boy" mentality anyway, and so if it happens in my house, I put a stop to it - I can't control what they do outside of my house, but I damn well can control what they do inside my house, or they won't be in my house.  I have also found that most people who are "teasing"or "razzing around" about things like male submission aren't doing so in a friendly manner.  They have no problems with male Dominants, but always have an undercurrent of honest antagonism and distain for male submissives - especially rednecks (I've lived around them long enough and am related to enough of them to see a pattern here ... maybe your rednecks are different ... but somehow, I doubt it).
This is a brave and interesting new position you've taken.   I don't want to go into details, but must say it is a position in sharp contrast to the way your profile used to read, before you found your boys.
Be well
quote:

I have compressed allota useful side information out of this. Hope it still makes sense to someone. 
Ron
Ron, I know what you're saying, but you have to let the full thoughts out... You shortcut so much people have to be high or something to follow you (I'm not, but feel I need a drink before reading you, lol).
It simply isn't the same, and racial play is sensitive shit, and not for the weak...  I certainly can't do it on the race level.   M


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RE: black male slaves - 4/20/2006 3:19:42 PM   
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Status: offline 		Ignorance still and will exist  as long as humans  exist. Speaking of  a small town mentallity. There use two be two Mistresses that had web sites in the most northern parts of my state. One  had gotten to the point that she was using her web site to communicate her  problems with her neighbors.While they were few ( and that is usually all there is ..A few) neighbors  that protested outside of her farm entrance and made video tapes of those who came up her drieveway, they were able to get her to move away. She also shared her plight on her web page , including strong words to those that wanted her to leave.  In the long run, ignorance prevailed.In fact another Mistress in her area , also went into hiding due to the her new gained visibility.
Very sad in deed....The only  good news If any is that I do see that on collarme, others have taken their place since...

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