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RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against &quo... - 8/10/2010 8:54:34 AM   
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The three showed up to Congress, hats in hand... to beg for money from the American people... after just deboarding from three private airplanes.

I bitched about it at the time... and do so now... the damn idiots. Never heard of ride share??? gesh!


Yeah...and lose that travel time that could be spent on doing business. A better idea would have been to not have the dog and pony show to begin with.

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RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against &quo... - 8/10/2010 8:54:51 AM   
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And if he is going to preach to us about sacrifice he should be taking the first steps and leading by example, rather than this do as I say, not as I do BS..

What, like Carter did, you mean? I know you're a great admirer of the peanut farmer.

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RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against &quo... - 8/10/2010 8:59:52 AM   
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Yeah, i can understand when half truths and out right lies are reported against Obama, how people are upset. By the time the lies are revealed, no one listens.


And do you also understand when full truths and irrefutable facts are reported against Obama, how people also are upset? By the time Obama, Gibbs and the msm have ignored, obfuscated, denied and/or out right lied about same, no one listens.

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RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against &quo... - 8/10/2010 9:01:11 AM   
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Why werent you complaining about the safari trip?

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RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against &quo... - 8/10/2010 9:03:40 AM   
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Yeah, i can understand when half truths and out right lies are reported against Obama, how people are upset. By the time the lies are revealed, no one listens.


And do you also understand when full truths and irrefutable facts are reported against Obama, how people also are upset? By the time Obama, Gibbs and the msm have ignored, obfuscated, denied and/or out right lied about same, no one listens.

Maybe people would pay more attention to this sort of thing if the whole of the American right hadn't shouted itself hoarse crying "wolf" over all of the most trivial, or in a fair few cases downright fictional, nonsense imaginable for the last year and a half?

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RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against &quo... - 8/10/2010 9:15:35 AM   
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Yeah, i can understand when half truths and out right lies are reported against Obama, how people are upset. By the time the lies are revealed, no one listens.


What lies?  When people watch him and his family jet setting all over the place, and they're told to make sacrifices on energy and everything else, they get pissed off at the hypocrisy.  It's not a lie to see, is it? 

Come on folks this is such a bullshit complaint it is assinine.Please name the last President(and his family) that did not travel by jet....are you folks really this fucking silly.
He is the leader of the free world....how should he travel ...by fucking camel?
Complaining that others won't engage you in meaningful debate ...while choosing to gnaw on this particular bone is amusing at best....I won't bother commenting on what it is at worst!

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RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against &quo... - 8/10/2010 9:18:12 AM   
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Lets put the two trips into perspective.

Michelle Obama takes a private trip to Spain, along with 6 others, including her daughter, and is willing to pay part of the cost, as did her friends.

Laura Bush goes on an african safari with her daughters, but it was regarded as an "official trip" with photo ops.

lets see... Michelle admits its a private trip and pays part of it out of pocket.

Laura's is official.. and we pay the whole tab.

Curious

But, ya know what? I didnt care back then, and i dont care now. They went on vacation with their family. We pick up the tab, they pay part... whatever. Being in that limelight 24/7 has got to be exhausting. Im glad they got away... all of them. Being the First Family cannot be easy on any family... this is the price we pay to that family for giving up, literally, four years at a stretch.

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RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against &quo... - 8/10/2010 9:26:46 AM   
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I think the safari subject made him go look for a talking head that has a response for you Tazzy..It might take a while


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RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against &quo... - 8/10/2010 9:32:20 AM   
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Im sure Beck has something... lol

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RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against &quo... - 8/10/2010 9:35:29 AM   
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yeah it sounds like its contagious too.



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RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against &quo... - 8/10/2010 9:40:20 AM   
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Macular degeneration is catching?
Or is that the other gobshite, not Beck?

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RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against &quo... - 8/10/2010 10:08:04 AM   
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Lets see... the Auto Execs were responsible for the mess they found themselves in.

Obama walked into the mess left by the bankers and auto exes.

I see a huge difference here.



So, he didn't vote for the auto bailout and stimulus plans while in the Senate?  He wasn't aware of how bad the economy was while running for President? Are you saying he's that naive?

I'm sorry, but Obama has made "the mess" 10x worse with his fiscal policies, he gets no pass here.

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RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against &quo... - 8/10/2010 11:15:43 AM   
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Again, taz - for the fifth or sixth time now, Bush didnt preach to us about the need for us to "sacrifice" in the name of the lefts hallowed global warming theology or the evils of evil greedy "fat cat" capitalists. The thread is not concerned necessarily with the hundreds of thousands of our tax dollars spent on these trips to Hawaii and Europe, etc etc etc, the 60 Ritz-Carlton rooms or the finest dining on the planet.

The issue is the hypocrisy. Queen Antoinette getting her spending groove on, while the nation is in deepening recession and King Obama lectures to us about the sins of wealth and living the good life.


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ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Lets put the two trips into perspective.

Michelle Obama takes a private trip to Spain, along with 6 others, including her daughter, and is willing to pay part of the cost, as did her friends.

Laura Bush goes on an african safari with her daughters, but it was regarded as an "official trip" with photo ops.

lets see... Michelle admits its a private trip and pays part of it out of pocket.

Laura's is official.. and we pay the whole tab.

Curious

But, ya know what? I didnt care back then, and i dont care now. They went on vacation with their family. We pick up the tab, they pay part... whatever. Being in that limelight 24/7 has got to be exhausting. Im glad they got away... all of them. Being the First Family cannot be easy on any family... this is the price we pay to that family for giving up, literally, four years at a stretch.


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RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against &quo... - 8/10/2010 11:46:38 AM   
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So the hypocrisy is the thing, where Bush vetoed a childrens health care bill because it was not fiscally conservative after running up the biggest spending spree in americas history.  Or Gingrich on gay rights and marraige, with a gay sister, or McCains pork spending for AZ in the form of a 10 million law center for a buddy, or the 14.3 for a buffer zone around the air force base. Or spending 5000 dollars (as a fiscal conservative to drape his lipsticked pig in pork?)  or..............

again, hypocrisy is rampant, even you and I engage in it.

 

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RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against &quo... - 8/10/2010 12:11:44 PM   
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They call that logical fallacy a red herring, mnot.

http://www.fallacyfiles.org/twowrong.html


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RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against &quo... - 8/10/2010 12:16:09 PM   
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They call that logical fallacy a red herring, mnot.

http://www.fallacyfiles.org/twowrong.html


You've got nothing, then.
What a surprise.

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RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against &quo... - 8/10/2010 12:23:48 PM   
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They call that logical fallacy a red herring, mnot.

http://www.fallacyfiles.org/twowrong.html



No, you are quite wrong about that, now that is suprising to no one. Your cite is wrong about that, also surprising to no one.

THIS is the world wide and UNIVERSALLY agreed definition of red herring:

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/red-herring.html

And even if your link holds any commerce with anything in argumentation, I am still virginal, since I did not imply, impute or intend to convey that anything is alright because somebody
else did something wrong, I intended to point out that your point is invalid on its face because Michelle Obama did nothing wrong.  

As for the rest, Bush, Gingrich, McCain, they are all criminals.

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RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against &quo... - 8/10/2010 12:29:07 PM   
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ORIGINAL: mnottertail

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They call that logical fallacy a red herring, mnot.

http://www.fallacyfiles.org/twowrong.html



No, you are quite wrong about that, now that is suprising to no one. Your cite is wrong about that, also surprising to no one.

THIS is the world wide and UNIVERSALLY agreed definition of red herring:

http://www.nizkor.org/features/fallacies/red-herring.html

And even if your link holds any commerce with anything in argumentation, I am still virginal, since I did not imply, impute or intend to convey that anything is alright because somebody
else did something wrong, I intended to point out that your point is invalid on its face because Michelle Obama did nothing wrong.  

As for the rest, Bush, Gingrich, McCain, they are all criminals.


I dont believe anyone else has tried to say it was wrong either, beyond Sanity and rob.

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RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against &quo... - 8/10/2010 12:45:03 PM   
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Again, taz - for the fifth or sixth time now, Bush didnt preach to us about the need for us to "sacrifice" in the name of the lefts hallowed global warming theology or the evils of evil greedy "fat cat" capitalists. The thread is not concerned necessarily with the hundreds of thousands of our tax dollars spent on these trips to Hawaii and Europe, etc etc etc, the 60 Ritz-Carlton rooms or the finest dining on the planet.

The issue is the hypocrisy. Queen Antoinette getting her spending groove on, while the nation is in deepening recession and King Obama lectures to us about the sins of wealth and living the good life.


quote:

ORIGINAL: tazzygirl

Lets put the two trips into perspective.

Michelle Obama takes a private trip to Spain, along with 6 others, including her daughter, and is willing to pay part of the cost, as did her friends.

Laura Bush goes on an african safari with her daughters, but it was regarded as an "official trip" with photo ops.

lets see... Michelle admits its a private trip and pays part of it out of pocket.

Laura's is official.. and we pay the whole tab.

Curious

But, ya know what? I didnt care back then, and i dont care now. They went on vacation with their family. We pick up the tab, they pay part... whatever. Being in that limelight 24/7 has got to be exhausting. Im glad they got away... all of them. Being the First Family cannot be easy on any family... this is the price we pay to that family for giving up, literally, four years at a stretch.


quote:

Again, taz - for the fifth or sixth time now, Bush didnt preach to us about the need for us to "sacrifice" in the name of the lefts hallowed global warming theology or the evils of evil greedy "fat cat" capitalists. The thread is not concerned necessarily with the hundreds of thousands of our tax dollars spent on these trips to Hawaii and Europe, etc etc etc, the 60 Ritz-Carlton rooms or the finest dining on the planet.

The issue is the hypocrisy. Queen Antoinette getting her spending groove on, while the nation is in deepening recession and King Obama lectures to us about the sins of wealth and living the good life.


Am i mistaken or werent we bought out of two recessions during the Bush administration?

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RE: While Obama Preaches Sacrifice & Rails Against &quo... - 8/10/2010 12:49:05 PM   
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You were. Bush also managed to break the world economy towards the end of 2008.
Still, I'm sure Sanity has no problem with that, as Bush wasn't a Democrat, so whatever he did must be good.

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