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lally2 -> bloody hell (8/9/2010 2:13:15 AM)

ive just switched on and the profile that came up is of a man looking for a negro slave.  i found the rest of his profile bordering on poor taste too - i went to report the profile (something ive never done before)  and there is no option for reporting seriousy dodgy or vastly innappropriate profiles.

anyway, ive picked 'vulgarity' just to pick something.

some time back i remember some hooha in the states when the Klucluxclan did a march through some town in the states.  the road was lined with white people hurling abuse at them and in the back ground the black american guys were carrying on with their shopping.  i asked a black american friend, who i knew at the time what was with that and he said 'they cant touch us anymore so we dont bother with it'

i personally found this mans profile a disgusting, insensitve piece of thoughtless mockery - im actually quite shocked and had to share.



DarkSteven -> RE: bloody hell (8/9/2010 4:01:47 AM)

lally, anyone posting here has broken some taboos about sexuality and relationships.  Some people assume that that means that ALL taboos are broken and are surprised when such things as cheating on a spouse, for example, are still frowned upon.

I have seen some black women's profiles that asked to be degraded racially (or at least purported to be such).

It's not surprising that someone who would want such a thing would come here for that.  And it's also not surprising that the rest of the profile would be offensive as well.



lally2 -> RE: bloody hell (8/9/2010 4:24:00 AM)

so i need to put my sensitibilites aside i spose -

in a way its one thing for a woman to seek such a thing but for a white man to feels really wrong, - he uses the 'n' word.

maybe its a case of a white person being more uncomfortable with the whole exploitation of a past atrocity than the people whose ancestors were invovled.  its kinda wierd for me.

but to me its along the same lines as someone seeking a jewish person and wanting to re-enact the 2nd world war atrocity.

i suppose im being judgemental about someone elses kink



Aneirin -> RE: bloody hell (8/9/2010 4:37:50 AM)

I understand what you are saying Lally, for I have seen what I believe to be questionable desires also on the other side. Similarly people asking for race play and of course rape play, which to me does raise uncomfortable feelings due to past and present events, but I suppose it is yet again a case of other people's kink and as long as it does not harm, things can be explored in consensual surroundings, far better consensual than actual, perhaps even things, feelings, memories even can be worked out if they are enacted were there is control.



lally2 -> RE: bloody hell (8/9/2010 5:26:27 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Aneirin

I understand what you are saying Lally, for I have seen what I believe to be questionable desires also on the other side. Similarly people asking for race play and of course rape play, which to me does raise uncomfortable feelings due to past and present events, but I suppose it is yet again a case of other people's kink and as long as it does not harm, things can be explored in consensual surroundings, far better consensual than actual, perhaps even things, feelings, memories even can be worked out if they are enacted were there is control.


yes, i see that, thanks.

rape play is something i would never have agreed to a few years back but i can now feel it might bring closure if it was ever suggested again and done with a high degree of sensitivity.

that is an immediate and personal aspect of me though.  im not arguing with you, im just kinda exploring this... [:)]

i read as much of his profile as i could manage without feeling i needed to borrow some of xxblushesxx eye bleach.  it read a little like a fantasists wank rather than someone honestly and openly and with some sensitivity approaching murky waters and offering his kink to a woman with similar interests -

lets say i was looking and most specifically seeking out someone into rape play to help me over my memories - im more likely to respond to someone who represents to me a sensitive, thoughtful, considerate side to them.  i wouldnt choose someone who advertised themselves as someone who was going to take my hang up and use me for the garbage i am. kinda thing.  but i guess thats my perspective and im not allowing for someone who wants to be treated like garbage.

ive deleted the quote from his profile because it was just too unpleasant and offensive.

in retrospect i should have put this in general - ah well.



BentUnit -> RE: bloody hell (8/9/2010 5:56:34 AM)

I've wanted to report a seriously "off kilter" (read : seriously fucked up) profile and yes like you found out there was no report button to report the profile it's self.

I think this IS a matter that needs to be addressed by the owner/management.



vincentML -> RE: bloody hell (8/9/2010 6:36:38 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: lally2

so i need to put my sensitibilites aside i spose -

in a way its one thing for a woman to seek such a thing but for a white man to feels really wrong, - he uses the 'n' word.

maybe its a case of a white person being more uncomfortable with the whole exploitation of a past atrocity than the people whose ancestors were invovled.  its kinda wierd for me.

but to me its along the same lines as someone seeking a jewish person and wanting to re-enact the 2nd world war atrocity.

i suppose im being judgemental about someone elses kink.


Please clarify... are you equating "negro" with the "n" word or are you simply being discreet?

Secondly, I have seen profiles from black dominant females advertising for or catering to (or exploiting) the race inferiority fantasies of white men.

Without seeing the particular profile to which you refer it is difficult to judge how far over the edge it may be or (and meaning no offense to you) if it is a question of your sensibilities.

thank you



BentUnit -> RE: bloody hell (8/9/2010 7:20:18 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: vincentML


quote:

ORIGINAL: lally2

so i need to put my sensitibilites aside i spose -

in a way its one thing for a woman to seek such a thing but for a white man to feels really wrong, - he uses the 'n' word.

maybe its a case of a white person being more uncomfortable with the whole exploitation of a past atrocity than the people whose ancestors were invovled.  its kinda wierd for me.

but to me its along the same lines as someone seeking a jewish person and wanting to re-enact the 2nd world war atrocity.

i suppose im being judgemental about someone elses kink.


Please clarify... are you equating "negro" with the "n" word or are you simply being discreet?

Secondly, I have seen profiles from black dominant females advertising for or catering to (or exploiting) the race inferiority fantasies of white men.

Without seeing the particular profile to which you refer it is difficult to judge how far over the edge it may be or (and meaning no offense to you) if it is a question of your sensibilities.

thank you


With all due respect to speak of a user name or post a link to a profile and refer to them in negative terms is against TOS and will bring Lally under Moderation.

I think her offended sensibilities about the profile should be voiced to the Mods.

I think she has been sensible in not naming names here on thread.
Her oblique reference to the subject matter is a sensible approach that allows her to vent and talk without running afoul of TOS.



myotherself -> RE: bloody hell (8/9/2010 7:34:17 AM)

Lally - I know which profile you're talking about. I came across it yesterday, and I found it to be absolutely abhorrent. I reported it too - I went for the 'offensively vulgar' option too, although I wibbled a bit about the choice. It takes a LOT for me to report a profile, but this one was just...nasty [:'(]

It wasn't just stating a preference for a black woman, it was insulting and offensive in the extreme. I also messaged him to tell him I'd reported his ass, and to wait for the gold-bordered love note. No reply yet...[:)]



vincentML -> RE: bloody hell (8/9/2010 8:00:28 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: BentUnit

quote:

ORIGINAL: vincentML


quote:

ORIGINAL: lally2

so i need to put my sensitibilites aside i spose -

in a way its one thing for a woman to seek such a thing but for a white man to feels really wrong, - he uses the 'n' word.

maybe its a case of a white person being more uncomfortable with the whole exploitation of a past atrocity than the people whose ancestors were invovled.  its kinda wierd for me.

but to me its along the same lines as someone seeking a jewish person and wanting to re-enact the 2nd world war atrocity.

i suppose im being judgemental about someone elses kink.


Please clarify... are you equating "negro" with the "n" word or are you simply being discreet?

Secondly, I have seen profiles from black dominant females advertising for or catering to (or exploiting) the race inferiority fantasies of white men.

Without seeing the particular profile to which you refer it is difficult to judge how far over the edge it may be or (and meaning no offense to you) if it is a question of your sensibilities.

thank you


With all due respect to speak of a user name or post a link to a profile and refer to them in negative terms is against TOS and will bring Lally under Moderation.

I think her offended sensibilities about the profile should be voiced to the Mods.

I think she has been sensible in not naming names here on thread.
Her oblique reference to the subject matter is a sensible approach that allows her to vent and talk without running afoul of TOS.



I understand your point perfectly and I agree with it. Nor would I argue with her sensibilities. They are what they are. I remain curious, however, if she equates "negro" with the "n" word, because that is not the usual equivalency. No, I would not expect her to name names. And I note that myotherself writes: "it was insulting and offensive in the extreme." Accepted.



lally2 -> RE: bloody hell (8/9/2010 9:18:40 AM)

no the 'n' word was the other 'n' word  ****er

myotherself - i noted at the bottom that they only take action if enough people complain about it - so heres hoping more people complain.  i havent seen it before, cant believe its been around for long.

im actually not easily offended but this is really offensive! - im glad myotherself has seen it and knows what im saying -




lally2 -> RE: bloody hell (8/9/2010 9:25:19 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BentUnit

I've wanted to report a seriously "off kilter" (read : seriously fucked up) profile and yes like you found out there was no report button to report the profile it's self.

I think this IS a matter that needs to be addressed by the owner/management.


yes i agree - morally and ethically dodgy material should have a fast track button.  the offensiveness of this profile is beyond BDSM to be honest.  its morally and ethically appalling.

i have to add his profile pic is of a black female slave hanging from a tree.



EbonyWood -> RE: bloody hell (8/9/2010 9:35:32 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: lally2

no the 'n' word was the other 'n' word  ****er

myotherself - i noted at the bottom that they only take action if enough people complain about it - so heres hoping more people complain.  i havent seen it before, cant believe its been around for long.

im actually not easily offended but this is really offensive! - im glad myotherself has seen it and knows what im saying -




I really dislike this aspect of the report function. Why does it need to be based on volume?
 
It's the equivalent of going to the police department to report a crime and being told that nothing will happen until 100 people report it.



ModTwentyOne -> RE: bloody hell (8/9/2010 10:17:05 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: BentUnit

I've wanted to report a seriously "off kilter" (read : seriously fucked up) profile and yes like you found out there was no report button to report the profile it's self.


Every profile has a report button, on the "short" profile, on the right hand side directly under the profile text.  Sometimes Firefox and/or Firefox add-ons, or old browsers obscure the button.


Mod21



lally2 -> RE: bloody hell (8/9/2010 10:34:43 AM)

thats what i pressed - and i got the menu of possible reasons why i wanted to report - i didnt bother to go to his full profile the short profile was more than enough!



lally2 -> RE: bloody hell (8/9/2010 11:48:55 AM)

just to let you know Mod21 is on it.



Arpig -> RE: bloody hell (8/9/2010 12:08:38 PM)

So now we are the kink-police....wonderful



myotherself -> RE: bloody hell (8/9/2010 12:26:46 PM)

any profile which describes black women as "worthless n****r c***s" is not kinky - it's unacceptable.

Particularly if the profile is illustrated with a silhouette of a woman hanging by the neck.




Arpig -> RE: bloody hell (8/9/2010 12:31:13 PM)

I guess I am just not that easily offended by ads on a kink site where there are men wanting to be castrated  advertising for just that....



lally2 -> RE: bloody hell (8/9/2010 12:38:47 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Arpig

So now we are the kink-police....wonderful


there are ways of expressing youreself that mean you dont have to spill vile mentality into other peoples lives.  he could have chosen a less offensive picture and he could have chosen his words more carefully.

instead he used a public profile facility to pour out offensive, sefl-wanking material - no doubt he found the experience freeing and emancipating but i cannot believe any sane woman would respond to him, even if she does have this kink.  the whole profile was wrong on every single level.

whatever the man does in his free time is entirely his affair but i personally have no wish to switch my computer on and be faced with an artists depiction dated around the time of the slave trade,  of a young woman being hung from a tree, exaserbated by a choice of words and an attitude that reeked of racism and racial violence.





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