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joether -> RE: Illegal Immigrants Are Bolstering Social Security With Billions (8/11/2010 12:22:11 PM)
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ORIGINAL: Nosathro
I think it been pointed out but let remember if the illegal immigrants, who use fake ID and Social Security Numbers were here legally they could get a Social Security Number and recieved benefits.
Now if they were here legally, 1) The wouldn't need to get fake IDs or SSNs. And 2) The Republicans would have one less thing to bitch about. As long as the Republicans can convince voters that someone or something else is to blame for their failures....they'll keep getting elected.
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ORIGINAL: Nosathro
Yes illegal immigrants children do [at]tend our schools as per court order.
Yes, as MANY studies have shown: kids not in school tend to cause trouble of the illegal kind. Through, being more a burden on the taxpayer in court fees (since they are given a lawyer paid for by the state/federal govement), and what ever their sentence is. It is more cost efficent in the long run, to have them go to school, and get an education. That is, if your 'for', saving the taxpayer money. And its not at court order, but by the laws of the land. Or do you REALLY think some 'liberal activist judge' order it?
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ORIGINAL: Nosathro
Most if not all the taxes coming from illegal immigrants go to the Federal Government, not State or Local.
The Commonwealth of Massachusets, like most states of the Union, have a sales tax. This tax is applied in specific instances on products/services. If ANYONE, legal or not, purchases that product/service, they PAY the tax. So, your arguement is faulty.
Second, as has been noted by the IRS: A) They allow for voluntary taxes to be paid (most states do the same actually), and B) The majority of the suspected illegal immigrants, pay the IRS voluntarily. Where do you think that 12-15 million illegal immigrants comes from? People just add a few million on top of the number that pays the IRS year after year
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ORIGINAL: Nosathro
You would be surprised at the cost of illegal immigrants in State prisons and county jails, they are there not for illegally entering the country but for real crimes such a murder.
You would be surprised at the cost (and number) of legal immigrants/citizens in state prisons and county jails, who never paid taxes, because they feel the 16th Amendment was never ratified (which it was in 1903 if I recall correctly).
So we should deport murders, so they can come back in to our country and murder....AGAIN? 'Brilliant' idea. Good thing, it doesnt work that way in the United States!
Besides, the actual number of illegal immigrants that enter this country, just to commit a criminal action is about 2-5% of the total. Your going to argue, the reason for being anti-illegal immigrant, is, being angry at a small minority? Sure, they broke one or more laws just skipping the border. But then, US Citizens break laws every day on the nation's highways. Next time your driving near a city.....count....the number of motorists traveling OVER the posted speed limit. Then ask yourself "How many of these people, are conservatives, and support the 'values' of the GOP?".
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ORIGINAL: Nosathro
There are actual programs in place to help illegal immogramts get into programs and assist them in many ways, like buying a house.
Yes, because unlike Republicans it seems, Democrats actually give a damn about humanity. Republicans give a damn, when they can make money off the disaster.
Republicans voted against:
A) Health Care for Americans
B) Health coverage for 9/11 Responders
C) Keeping the unemployed 'liquid' for a while longer on the hopes of jobs being found.
You want to question morals?
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ORIGINAL: Nosathro
So many programs that the Legal immigrants have filed a lawsuit to get the same benefits.
Well that is their right as citizens to do. But then, would you REALLY want to live in an area with illegal immigrants, when your view points (yes points, with an 's') are so anti-'illegel immigrant'? Americans gain several tons, MORE programs to access, then illegal immigrants. Some programs have to be given to all persons, due to discrimination and the 14th Amendment.
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