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RE: GOP Rep. "I Refused To Call Obama 'A Socialist... - 8/10/2010 4:13:46 PM   
Elisabella


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One of the leftist infiltrators perhaps.

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It's blurry, but the sign says "keep the guvmint out of my medicare."




This one too? Or maybe out of all the Tea Party protesters, at least 2 of them are really fucking ignorant and stupid? Just maybe?


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RE: GOP Rep. "I Refused To Call Obama 'A Socialist... - 8/10/2010 4:13:55 PM   
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Most republicans voted for the bush bail outs.

Does anyone want to consider what would have happened if GM was not bailed out?

That 100,000 jobs lost a month could have just kept going and going till we were in a depression.

What this man is really talking about is the deviding GOP.Something teabaggers deny but can`t be hidden.



In my opinion GM is a stupid company that has done some stupid things for the sake of stupid money. They were ahead of their time in development of alternative engery cars, engines and research. They pulled the plug on a lot of shit. Why? to kiss oil company ass. Stupid Choice made by stupid people with power and money. Prime example where business that fails should be left to fail.

Seriously Government bail outs does nothing but rewards business for bad practices.

Many small businesses go out of business from their stupid mistakes, nobody bails them out for it. Small business is left to sink to the bottom and another compitor that does better steps in and replaces them. Free Enterpise, Free market.

Seriously, we need to stop bailing out those who keep making the same bad choices and mistakes.

Like I said, nobody is bailing out small businesses that don't operate smart, why should big business be the exception. Let somebody else step in and grow their business into a big business. Hell, might been better for the money to go to some New Car Upstart company in the US. Just my opinion on the matter.

Reward those who deserve it, not those that fuck up hard. GM screwed up.. then again our Gov is just as screwed up. There needs to be some common sense restructure with better goals with a different outlook on things.

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RE: GOP Rep. "I Refused To Call Obama 'A Socialist... - 8/10/2010 4:19:53 PM   
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Why doesnt anyone want to admit that hes a socialist?

Of course hes a socialist. Hes dumb as a box of rocks and cant move his agenda even with both houses of congress in his pocket, but that fact doesnt make him any less radical.



According to every single socialist I know (including my own father) Obama is not a socialist.

Heavy government regulation =/= socialism. Socialism is government or collective ownership of industry, production and resources.

ETA - when I call my father a socialist, I mean he's been a member of the SPUSA since before I was born. He goes to socialist meetings and my parents basement has boxes of socialist signs and buttons and flyers because he used to help organize rallys. Please don't take this the wrong way but I think that I'd trust someone who actively supports socialism to the extent that they've been a socialist activist for over 30 years to know whether someone is a socialist, more than someone who is against socialism.

The only people who call Obama a socialist are people who don't like socialism. Not a single pro-socialist has claimed him as one of them.

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RE: GOP Rep. "I Refused To Call Obama 'A Socialist... - 8/10/2010 4:33:03 PM   
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Status: offline 		I am from Bob Inglis' district in SC. I am or was a registered democrat; however, I voted in the republican primary for the first time ever in my life. The real reason Bob Inglis got kicked out is because he is a Rhino socialist. He voted yes on the bailouts. Jim Demit is the only one in SC to regain his seat, and the reason Jim Demit got back in is because he voted no on everything Obama wanted.
I cannot wait for Lyndsey Fucking Graham's election. '
FYI: The two worst mistakes I have made in my life is
1: Marrying my ex-husband.
2. Voting for B arack Fucking Obama and his weekend vacations.
Sick of him.
Sorry if I offended any liberals out there, but I used to consider myself a liberal. Not anymore.

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RE: GOP Rep. "I Refused To Call Obama 'A Socialist... - 8/10/2010 4:39:26 PM   
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According to every single socialist I know (including my own father) Obama is not a socialist.

Heavy government regulation =/= socialism. Socialism is government or collective ownership of industry, production and resources.

ETA - when I call my father a socialist, I mean he's been a member of the SPUSA since before I was born. He goes to socialist meetings and my parents basement has boxes of socialist signs and buttons and flyers because he used to help organize rallys. Please don't take this the wrong way but I think that I'd trust someone who actively supports socialism to the extent that they've been a socialist activist for over 30 years to know whether someone is a socialist, more than someone who is against socialism.

The only people who call Obama a socialist are people who don't like socialism. Not a single pro-socialist has claimed him as one of them.


I could just hug you because you understand and get it. :-)

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RE: GOP Rep. "I Refused To Call Obama 'A Socialist... - 8/10/2010 4:40:05 PM   
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a Rhino socialist.


A Rhino? Seriously?

It's RINO. It stand for "Republican in Name Only" Not fucking Rhino.

Sanity - is she a "leftist plant" too?

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RE: GOP Rep. "I Refused To Call Obama 'A Socialist... - 8/10/2010 4:45:42 PM   
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I could just hug you because you understand and get it. :-)


<3

It drives me crazy though. Ask any socialist if they support Obamacare...ask any of them if it's "socialized medicine" and they will look at you as if you've lost your mind. And yet the "anti socialism" sentiments are never directed toward actual socialized medicine in the US, such as Medicare and VA hospitals.

It truly blows my mind.

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RE: GOP Rep. "I Refused To Call Obama 'A Socialist... - 8/10/2010 4:46:13 PM   
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Status: offline 		If he goes back in office, that is what you will get. Controlled government, collective ownership, etc. We are there.
There is a saying out there somewhere. When you are young, you are probably a liberal. When you mature and realize what matters, you usually become a conservative.

MistressLonita.

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ORIGINAL: Elisabella
According to every single socialist I know (including my own father) Obama is not a socialist.

Heavy government regulation =/= socialism. Socialism is government or collective ownership of industry, production and resources.

ETA - when I call my father a socialist, I mean he's been a member of the SPUSA since before I was born. He goes to socialist meetings and my parents basement has boxes of socialist signs and buttons and flyers because he used to help organize rallys. Please don't take this the wrong way but I think that I'd trust someone who actively supports socialism to the extent that they've been a socialist activist for over 30 years to know whether someone is a socialist, more than someone who is against socialism.

The only people who call Obama a socialist are people who don't like socialism. Not a single pro-socialist has claimed him as one of them.


I could just hug you because you understand and get it. :-)


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RE: GOP Rep. "I Refused To Call Obama 'A Socialist... - 8/10/2010 4:47:35 PM   
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I am from Bob Inglis' district in SC. I am or was a registered democrat; however, I voted in the republican primary for the first time ever in my life. The real reason Bob Inglis got kicked out is because he is a Rhino socialist. He voted yes on the bailouts. Jim Demit is the only one in SC to regain his seat, and the reason Jim Demit got back in is because he voted no on everything Obama wanted.
I cannot wait for Lyndsey Fucking Graham's election. '
FYI: The two worst mistakes I have made in my life is
1: Marrying my ex-husband.
2. Voting for B arack Fucking Obama and his weekend vacations.
Sick of him.
Sorry if I offended any liberals out there, but I used to consider myself a liberal. Not anymore.
MistressLonita


MistressLonita... Obama ain't no liberal and he's ain't no socialist either. Just as much as the Right wing Puked up Bush, the Left wing has Puked up Obama. Bush spend money far worse than any Democrat or Repulican in history would have dared. Conservative my ass. No Obama, he's liberal? my ass he's not being very liberal. I think this has become madness, pure madness between the Bush and Obama admistrations. Both Parties can officially kiss my ass for their stupidity for supporting and backing the screw job of america.

Here's what's going to happen, the GOP is gonna gain back some power, and guess what? We are gonna get screwed some more again. I seriously and I seriously mean this, both parties have jumped the shark.




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RE: GOP Rep. "I Refused To Call Obama 'A Socialist... - 8/10/2010 5:12:57 PM   
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I am from Bob Inglis' district in SC. I am or was a registered democrat; however, I voted in the republican primary for the first time ever in my life. The real reason Bob Inglis got kicked out is because he is a Rhino socialist. He voted yes on the bailouts. Jim Demit is the only one in SC to regain his seat, and the reason Jim Demit got back in is because he voted no on everything Obama wanted.
I cannot wait for Lyndsey Fucking Graham's election. '
FYI: The two worst mistakes I have made in my life is
1: Marrying my ex-husband.
2. Voting for B arack Fucking Obama and his weekend vacations.
Sick of him.
Sorry if I offended any liberals out there, but I used to consider myself a liberal. Not anymore.

MistressLonita


Not once but twice this poster (allegedly from his state) gets the name of South Carolina representative  Jim DEMINT incorrect.  I am from NJ and I know how to spell the man's name.  Then there is the vacation issue let us post a few FACTS:  With 487 days at Camp David, 490 days at Crawford Ranch, 43 days at Kennebunkport Compound, Total: 1020 days, more than 1/3rd of his presidency.  Bush jr. set the record for most vacation time taken by president.  Despite that salient fact this poster wants to complain about vacation, well let us compare their first full year in office: 
1st year
Obama 26 days
bush 69 days (during 9/11!!!)
and from historical records that I have seen only TWO count 'em 2 modern presidents have taken fewer vacation days in their first year James Earl Carter, and William Jefferson Clinton.   Hmmmmmm sounds like hypocrisy to me.

Just one more tiny example of why I say the nation grows more stupid each passing year.



This post will likely get "modded",
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RE: GOP Rep. "I Refused To Call Obama 'A Socialist... - 8/10/2010 5:25:51 PM   
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So what if she misspelled RINO, she knows what shes trying to relate so why not climb your ass down here and rejoin us common folk.

And the leftist plants at various Tea Party gatherings have been publicized well enough.

Meet Tyler, for example:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2010/08/a-hilariously-inept-attempt-at-actual-tea-party-infiltration/61226/

If you havent heard about the DNC plant people then perhaps you should be perusing a wider array of reading material.


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a Rhino socialist.


A Rhino? Seriously?

It's RINO. It stand for "Republican in Name Only" Not fucking Rhino.

Sanity - is she a "leftist plant" too?


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RE: GOP Rep. "I Refused To Call Obama 'A Socialist... - 8/10/2010 5:35:01 PM   
Sanity


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Hes just too stupid to get it right. He wanted it, he had the votes to get it, but he blew it.

From barackobama.com:

quote:

Fact Check: Obama Consistent in His Position on Single Payer Health Care

January 05, 2008 Rhetoric: "Today, he opposes single payer health care, and attacks Sen. Clinton for proposing a plan that covers everyone"


Reality: Obama Has Consistently Said That If We Were Starting From Scratch, He Would Support A Single Payer System, But Now We Need To Build On The System We Have


More here



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<3

It drives me crazy though. Ask any socialist if they support Obamacare...ask any of them if it's "socialized medicine" and they will look at you as if you've lost your mind. And yet the "anti socialism" sentiments are never directed toward actual socialized medicine in the US, such as Medicare and VA hospitals.

It truly blows my mind.


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RE: GOP Rep. "I Refused To Call Obama 'A Socialist... - 8/10/2010 5:45:31 PM   
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There is a saying out there somewhere. When you are young, you are probably a liberal. When you mature and realize what matters, you usually become a conservative.

MistressLonita.


The quote you're talking about is....

"If you're young and not a liberal,you have no heart; if you're old and not a conservative, you have no brain."
— Winston Churchill

But alas...I'm not as young as I used to be and I'm still a liberal.  The brain part, well, I like to think I have some matter left up there. 


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RE: GOP Rep. "I Refused To Call Obama 'A Socialist... - 8/10/2010 5:52:30 PM   
Elisabella


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So what if she misspelled RINO, she knows what shes trying to relate so why not climb your ass down here and rejoin us common folk.

And the leftist plants at various Tea Party gatherings have been publicized well enough.

Meet Tyler, for example:

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2010/08/a-hilariously-inept-attempt-at-actual-tea-party-infiltration/61226/

If you havent heard about the DNC plant people then perhaps you should be perusing a wider array of reading material.



"Rejoin the common folk" by...misusing jingoistic terms? Seriously? This isn't a there/their type of misspelling, this is confusing a political acronym with a large land mammal. How can someone use the term RINO and not even know it's an acronym, much less know what it actually stands for? That's the whole point I've been making on this thread - just because someone is able to cast a vote doesn't mean they're able to cast an educated, informed vote. I'm guessing she's never seen the word in print and only heard people speak it out loud, and never bothered to ask someone to clarify what it means before starting to use it herself because she likes the sound of "rhino socialist" as an insult. Understandable. Still inexcusable.

Look, maybe those 2 sign carriers at the Tea Party were both liberal plants. I doubt it, but neither of us can know for sure so there's no use debating it. I think what that guy did at the Rand Paul rally is wrong, unequivocally. But if you think that there aren't people who hold opinions based on talking points that they don't even understand, you're naive.

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RE: GOP Rep. "I Refused To Call Obama 'A Socialist... - 8/10/2010 5:54:18 PM   
Elisabella


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Hes just too stupid to get it right. He wanted it, he had the votes to get it, but he blew it.

From barackobama.com:

quote:

Fact Check: Obama Consistent in His Position on Single Payer Health Care

January 05, 2008 Rhetoric: "Today, he opposes single payer health care, and attacks Sen. Clinton for proposing a plan that covers everyone"


Reality: Obama Has Consistently Said That If We Were Starting From Scratch, He Would Support A Single Payer System, But Now We Need To Build On The System We Have


More here





Oh come on, that doesn't make him a socialist, it makes him a wishy washy political opportunist who knows he has to pay lip service to his base in order to get re-elected.

It's like if someone called themselves a gay rights activist then said "well if I could start from scratch, I'd change the definition of marriage, but since I can't, well, fuck it."

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RE: GOP Rep. "I Refused To Call Obama 'A Socialist... - 8/10/2010 6:40:07 PM   
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If you read my profile, you will see I am not an intellectual or play Domme. I am just a person who has my own opinions. And my opinion is that our men and women of this country did not fight and die for socialisim. They fought for American freedom.

MistressLonita

We are headed for a revolt regardless of who gets in because we are electing politicans, not servants of the people.

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RE: GOP Rep. "I Refused To Call Obama 'A Socialist... - 8/10/2010 6:45:11 PM   
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If he goes back in office, that is what you will get. Controlled government, collective ownership, etc. We are there.
There is a saying out there somewhere. When you are young, you are probably a liberal. When you mature and realize what matters, you usually become a conservative.

MistressLonita.

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ORIGINAL: Elisabella
According to every single socialist I know (including my own father) Obama is not a socialist.

Heavy government regulation =/= socialism. Socialism is government or collective ownership of industry, production and resources.

ETA - when I call my father a socialist, I mean he's been a member of the SPUSA since before I was born. He goes to socialist meetings and my parents basement has boxes of socialist signs and buttons and flyers because he used to help organize rallys. Please don't take this the wrong way but I think that I'd trust someone who actively supports socialism to the extent that they've been a socialist activist for over 30 years to know whether someone is a socialist, more than someone who is against socialism.

The only people who call Obama a socialist are people who don't like socialism. Not a single pro-socialist has claimed him as one of them.


I could just hug you because you understand and get it. :-)






Can you give us some examples of the gov. take-overs you speak of?

What private companies are being run by the feds?

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RE: GOP Rep. "I Refused To Call Obama 'A Socialist... - 8/10/2010 7:00:33 PM   
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And my opinion is that our men and women of this country did not fight and die for socialisim. They fought for American freedom.



Sooo...VA Hospitals. Discuss.

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RE: GOP Rep. "I Refused To Call Obama 'A Socialist... - 8/10/2010 7:02:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Elisabella
According to every single socialist I know (including my own father) Obama is not a socialist.

Heavy government regulation =/= socialism. Socialism is government or collective ownership of industry, production and resources.

ETA - when I call my father a socialist, I mean he's been a member of the SPUSA since before I was born. He goes to socialist meetings and my parents basement has boxes of socialist signs and buttons and flyers because he used to help organize rallys. Please don't take this the wrong way but I think that I'd trust someone who actively supports socialism to the extent that they've been a socialist activist for over 30 years to know whether someone is a socialist, more than someone who is against socialism.

The only people who call Obama a socialist are people who don't like socialism. Not a single pro-socialist has claimed him as one of them.


I could just hug you because you understand and get it. :-)



Wait a minute...

The United States is not a Socialist Nation... (yet)

But Barak Obama is a Socialist... or haven't y'all been paying attention?

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RE: GOP Rep. "I Refused To Call Obama 'A Socialist... - 8/10/2010 7:08:40 PM   
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Status: offline 		"But Barak Obama is a Socialist"

How so?

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