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cuckyman -> RE: GOP to the rescue. (8/17/2010 8:08:13 AM)

Those high paying union jobs in Detriot ARE gone....period... the auto industry is only growing in right to work states, without union control..... McCain is right..... and it was NOT the republicans that gave mortgages to people who could not pay...its was the 2006 elected DEMOCRATS that did not regulate Freddie and Fannie where Trillions of dollars of toxic assets imploded..... trying to blame Bush for Chirs Dodd and Barney Franks democrat mess is another democrat LIE..... pure an simple..... There is NO GOVERNMENT ANSWER to our economic troubles..... the anwer is what the GOP proposes.... get the inept lame ass government OUT OF THE WAY of industry....it worked in the past....it will work in the present, and is the ONLY WAY OUT OF THIS OBAMA MESS......democrats will never figure that out...they are dumb enough to actually believe Rosevelt got us out of the depression, when it was his inept policies that kept us IN the depression..... if you don't trust American industry and people, then how do you trust a government to be trustworthy? Beware of socialist democrats posing as Americans.... Progressive's have no answers...only sping, lies and dam lies..... and more government.... that dog just don't hunt.....




Musicmystery -> RE: GOP to the rescue. (8/17/2010 8:11:36 AM)

You're a mess.

You've just changed your story to agree with all the points I raised, and gone on to rant about several new unrelated ones.

And you're still ignoring the point that it's not a party issue. Republicans have no plan either, other than the ones that got us here.




DomYngBlk -> RE: GOP to the rescue. (8/17/2010 8:13:03 AM)

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ORIGINAL: cuckyman

The military was saddled with rusting ships.... no parts for aircraft...worn out everything when Carter was there..... Regan's military spending was NECESSARY to insure our very survival in the debacle of defeat in Viet Nam..... and the Star War threat was instrumental in th fall of the Soviet Union's collapse.... Odd how 'progressives' look at something real, and spin it into a fabrication.... MSNBC comes to mind in the present day.... maybe that is why no one is watching...and Obama's poll numbers are crashing....lies just don't sell anymore.....


Bold statement cuck. Do you have any evidence to back it up? The only thing Reagan ever did with the military was win the battle of grenada after he got 300 marines slaughtered in Lebanon.......If you have something else then please shed some light




Louve00 -> RE: GOP to the rescue. (8/17/2010 8:13:26 AM)

Cuckyman you should join the tea party.  They're your kind of people!  [;)] 




cuckyman -> RE: GOP to the rescue. (8/17/2010 8:14:46 AM)

When the republican's took control of congress in 1994, it was the FIRST TIME IN OVER 40 YEARS....that is a FACT....




cuckyman -> RE: GOP to the rescue. (8/17/2010 8:15:52 AM)

Yep...they sure are my kind of people.... and they will show their strength come November... count on it....




DomYngBlk -> RE: GOP to the rescue. (8/17/2010 8:16:26 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: cuckyman

Those high paying union jobs in Detriot ARE gone....period... the auto industry is only growing in right to work states, without union control..... McCain is right..... and it was NOT the republicans that gave mortgages to people who could not pay...its was the 2006 elected DEMOCRATS that did not regulate Freddie and Fannie where Trillions of dollars of toxic assets imploded..... trying to blame Bush for Chirs Dodd and Barney Franks democrat mess is another democrat LIE..... pure an simple..... There is NO GOVERNMENT ANSWER to our economic troubles..... the anwer is what the GOP proposes.... get the inept lame ass government OUT OF THE WAY of industry....it worked in the past....it will work in the present, and is the ONLY WAY OUT OF THIS OBAMA MESS......democrats will never figure that out...they are dumb enough to actually believe Rosevelt got us out of the depression, when it was his inept policies that kept us IN the depression..... if you don't trust American industry and people, then how do you trust a government to be trustworthy? Beware of socialist democrats posing as Americans.... Progressive's have no answers...only sping, lies and dam lies..... and more government.... that dog just don't hunt.....


you should try reading a paper or at least look things up first and stop listening to Glenn Beck. GM has added a huge amount of jobs at its Lordstown Ohio facility.......to name one. Union State, no right to work.




Musicmystery -> RE: GOP to the rescue. (8/17/2010 8:16:33 AM)

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and Obama's poll numbers are crashing....lies just don't sell anymore.....


Couple of problems with this.

*Reagan's numbers in this period were 10 points lower.
*While Congress polls lower than Obama, the Republican Party polls even lower than Congress.

Because lies just don't sell anymore. We've been there, done that.

Facts are facts, as you like to scream.




Musicmystery -> RE: GOP to the rescue. (8/17/2010 8:20:38 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: cuckyman

When the republican's took control of congress in 1994, it was the FIRST TIME IN OVER 40 YEARS....that is a FACT....


Now that's true.

Reagan, however, faced not a Democratic Congress, but a mixed one, until the very end, in 1987. As I've told you several times, including a few in this thread.




cuckyman -> RE: GOP to the rescue. (8/17/2010 8:25:37 AM)

Well we will start with the '6881,s'... the last four digits of the serial numbers of the Los Angeles class nuke attack submarines....we bult 53 of them to be exact.... Regan had them all brought in to be refurbished with silent reactor cooling pumps and installation of a vertical cruise missle launch system in the nose.... those boats are now capable of similtanious launch of up to 24 nuke tipped missiles, and if you do the math of 24 X 53, it gives us the capability to park those things on the bottom, off any beligerant nation, completly undectable, and rise to lanch a storm of missiles that can decaptitate any nations capabliity to strike us..... The American people were unaware of the things done during Regan's tenure to restore our military abilities.... the list is too lengthy to journal here, but it is now available to those who wish to know..... without those changes, we would not have the military might we now possess, although it is now eroded under Obama's cuts.... just like Carter before, the democrats are not supportive of our military..... and never will be...they are more interersted in hand outs to people who vote for them.... its all about power for democrats.... and confisication of the profits from those that produce the jobs and money in the first place.....




cuckyman -> RE: GOP to the rescue. (8/17/2010 8:29:38 AM)

We will soon see if Government Motors survives....the stockholders who were wiped out by Obama's takover of that company will NOT be buying stock in that enterprise anytime soon.... I think their new 'public offering' of stock will fall flat on its ass.... I would walk before I owned a GM product....




cuckyman -> RE: GOP to the rescue. (8/17/2010 8:30:41 AM)

So you wish to wager some serious money that dems still conrol congress after November? hmmmmmm?




Musicmystery -> RE: GOP to the rescue. (8/17/2010 8:36:27 AM)

You are determined to tie these together, aren't you.

Fact is, poor business decisions are poor business decisions.

And smarter companies are still doing better. That's the free market system.

November is a different matter. Is that what you want to discuss now? You keep changing so fast.

Dems will lose seats. Probably they'll barely hold on, though--the "outrage" is mainly Republican voters who are now going to vote...Repubican. Same old same old. On the other hand, incumbents--including Republican incumbents--are having to earn their seats this time. To the extent that Republicans are changing, it's further to the right, picking up no extra votes but leaving behind independents (and in more liberal states, even some moderate Republicans).

In short, nothing unusual for a midterm election. The administration knew this one would be tough when the economy tanked before they even took office. No brainer there.





cuckyman -> RE: GOP to the rescue. (8/17/2010 8:39:25 AM)

all congress's are 'mixed'....but the democrats held the majority during Reagan's tenure.....




cuckoldmepls -> RE: GOP to the rescue. (8/17/2010 8:40:49 AM)

There is no doubt that Reagan was the last loyal President we had. He understood the importance of peace through strength, limited government, and basic economics. Thanks to Reagan, we no longer have to worry about being nuked by Russia, simply because the Russians realized that Reagan was serious about winning the cold war, and their economy couldn't keep up with ours.

All you have to do is look at North Korea, and South Korea. You have two countries side by side with everything the same except economic systems. It's obvious that capitalism works. The closer you get to communism, the worse your economy will get, and socialism is only one step away. In fact, the main difference between socialism and communism is that with socialism you get to vote in the people who take most of your paycheck.

As Ross Perot said back in the 90's when he ran for President. We tried big government, it didn't work. It left us $5 trillion in debt. Well unfortunately, democrats didn't listen. Instead they used his campaign to split the republican vote and put Clinton in office. Clinton then signs NAFTA and China and now the budget surpluses are gone forever or at least until we get a President and Congress who won't lie about cancelling NAFTA in order to get elected.

The really scary part is that some people like Jesse Jackson claim that deficits and the national debt don't matter. Well the reality is that each citizen even children now owe about $40k on the national debt. That means that almost all of us would have to sell our homes to cover our debt, our childrens debt, and the people who don't own homes.

If that's not an illusionary economy, I don't know what is, and it all stems from liberals and rino's. True conservative government is the only answer.





Musicmystery -> RE: GOP to the rescue. (8/17/2010 8:41:13 AM)

Sigh.

No, they didn't. I've even posted the links, and you still cling to fantasy rather than fact.

Democrats controlled the House, Republicans controlled the Senate, from 1981-1987.





mnottertail -> RE: GOP to the rescue. (8/17/2010 8:42:22 AM)

97th Congress (1981-1983)
Senate: 53(R); 46(D); 1(other)
House: 242(D); 189(R)
98th Congress (1983-1985)
Senate: 54(R); 46(D)
House: 268(D); 167(R)
99th Congress (1985-1987)
Senate: 53(R); 47 (D)
House: 253 (D); 182(R)
100th Congress (1987-1989)
Senate: 55(D); 45(R)
House: 258 (D); 177 (R)

For the most part, the senate republican, the house democrat.




DomYngBlk -> RE: GOP to the rescue. (8/17/2010 8:43:06 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: cuckyman

Well we will start with the '6881,s'... the last four digits of the serial numbers of the Los Angeles class nuke attack submarines....we bult 53 of them to be exact.... Regan had them all brought in to be refurbished with silent reactor cooling pumps and installation of a vertical cruise missle launch system in the nose.... those boats are now capable of similtanious launch of up to 24 nuke tipped missiles, and if you do the math of 24 X 53, it gives us the capability to park those things on the bottom, off any beligerant nation, completly undectable, and rise to lanch a storm of missiles that can decaptitate any nations capabliity to strike us..... The American people were unaware of the things done during Regan's tenure to restore our military abilities.... the list is too lengthy to journal here, but it is now available to those who wish to know..... without those changes, we would not have the military might we now possess, although it is now eroded under Obama's cuts.... just like Carter before, the democrats are not supportive of our military..... and never will be...they are more interersted in hand outs to people who vote for them.... its all about power for democrats.... and confisication of the profits from those that produce the jobs and money in the first place.....


No cuck. Don't tell me what we build and never used. Tell me what he did that somehow made us safe or kept us safer than any other President? As I said, he did a great job of saving Grenada just as Bush I did of saving Kuwait for Freedom......outside of that he got over 300 Marines MASSACRED in Lebanon. He should have been brought up on treason charges for that act.




cuckyman -> RE: GOP to the rescue. (8/17/2010 8:45:25 AM)

so you never heard the term 'deterrent' before?....the USSR knows of the capabilities of Regan's military buildup.... that is WHY Gorbechev threw in the towel...... it WORKED....and its still working......




Musicmystery -> RE: GOP to the rescue. (8/17/2010 8:45:27 AM)

quote:

As Ross Perot said back in the 90's when he ran for President. We tried big government, it didn't work. It left us $5 trillion in debt. Well unfortunately, democrats didn't listen.


And unfortunately, neither did Republicans. The national debt grew by more than $4 trillion during George W. Bush's presidency, the biggest increase under any president in U.S. history, and with Republicans controlling the House and Senate from 1995 to 2007.

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-500803_162-4486228-500803.html




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