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Stop looking at Wikipedia and start looking at Medical Sites..

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Hypoglycemia, Hypotension - BOTH of these would not have killed her if she fell asleep, IF she did have them and when they woke up and she was still shivering, drooling, non-responsive and taken to the hospital she would be given a shot and within minutes have been fine.........

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However to be angry with someone because they didn't is a horrible thing to do

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When you EXPECT the world to do niceities you are setting yourself up for failure.

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You did not have anything to do with him passing away. Had you been there you most likely would not have been able to stop it... asprin or not.

However if he did not pass away, and then yelled at you for not checking on him because he could have... well that would make him an asshol

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I was 13 when my father died, and I spent the last day of his life with him. He was sick in bed. I never checked him because I had no idea he had a heart attack. People, if you care about others it aint much to ask you get your heads out of your ass and not think about your own damn self for 5 minutes... if you think it can't happen to you, that you could ignore the symptoms of someone you love being in trouble and needing your help, think again

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ORIGINAL: sirsholly

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Stop looking at Wikipedia and start looking at Medical Sites..

I like Wiki because it is an easy read and provides all needed links. As to looking on medical sites, i have the most recent PDR and DSM on my desk and always reach for them before a medical web site.

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Hypoglycemia, Hypotension - BOTH of these would not have killed her if she fell asleep, IF she did have them and when they woke up and she was still shivering, drooling, non-responsive and taken to the hospital she would be given a shot and within minutes have been fine.........

Why risk a trip to the emergency room? What i am saying is a few basic preventive measures can prevent a much more serious situation.

Now...hypoglycemia is reversed by sleep? Really...shucks! So those glucose tabs you carry to ward off hypoglycemia....you can toss them away and just take a nap the next time you feel your blood sugar drop.

Hypotension is cured by a nap? If it causes a serious cardiac arrhythmia one should take a snooze? Ahhhhh.....i never woulda thunk it....neither would the average cardiologist.

Where were you when i was getting all the mis-information in grad school? Damnit...i feel so stooopid! *picks tooth*

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So much here about him not helping, or not being there for her....
Yet he did help her. It's in the OP. He was just a dick about it.
Once he got that she was unable to get herself water, he got it for her.

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ORIGINAL: AQuietSimpleMan

I have played with MANY people with MANY different health issues.... Hypoglycemia is never something I assume or even worry about for that matter. These things don't happen all the sudden like a snap of the fingers. For the most part if it was a Hyopglycemic reaction it would have been showing signs all day. If the Op had stated she had been feeling these things all day then my reaction would be different. Please stop trying to make a Dopemine reaction to Adrenaline into something more serious. Subspace happens all the time and rarely if ever does someone die from it, and those that have usually have many other factors at play and usually are involved with extenuating factors.

Wikipedia cannot diagnose a problem. it can tell you what common factors but I am not going to trust a wiki page to my well being. I would not suggest anyone else do it either.

It is good to educate you about something you have already been diagnosed with but a trusted GP or Family Doctor or Specialist is the only one I trust with diagnosis.... I just know far too many Hypocondriacs. QSM

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Also WHERE did the OP ever say they had never been in subspace before... In fact she knew exactly how she gets in subspace, she stated clearly that while in sub space she gets cold and also explained that while in subspace she finds it difficult to talk, she never said this was the first time she got to subspace, she said it was the first time it happened from shoulder pain.

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I've played with our mutual friend before, at a play party with my boyfriend in the room, and then after the scene been walked over to him on the couch to cuddle under a blanket for a little bit until I got my sea legs back. That was all that was required then, but this time was wildly unexpected. I usually get a bit of a "runner's high", and a little cold, but after a juice and a cookie am good to go in about ten minutes. This was dramatically different. I needed two people to walk me upstairs, and that was neither expected or aimed for. It wasn't even that hard of a scene - no bruises, nada. It surprised me.

I could understand him getting me water and making sure I was warm, then telling me the next day that in the future he would like me to make other arrangements. That would have been fine. But in the moment I didn't have the motor skills to call someone else, so was really dependent upon him.

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ORIGINAL: AQuietSimpleMan

I never said going to sleep cured them, with Hyperglycemia, yes sleeping is usually a good thing to do, as the fasting effect will help to drop the BGL.

As for the HYPO. We'll see this is the issue, you are suggesting that could be happeneing to her, I can see where some of her actions have similar symptoms... but she was not exibiting enough to assume they were either.

The Point I am getting at is that if she had either, him giving her water and a cookie would not have solved the problem.

I have played with MANY people with MANY different health issues.... Hypoglycemia is never something I assume or even worry about for that matter. These things don't happen all the sudden like a snap of the fingers. For the most part if it was a Hypoglycemic reaction it would have been showing signs all day. If the Op had stated she had been feeling these things all day then my reaction would be different.



WRONG! QSM, I really wish you would stop playing doctor. I am not a doctor and no one should simply trust what I say, but I am situational hypoglycemic. It can happen in a moment and most those moments I don't know what the fuck is happening as I am not all there. I can look drunk in how I walk, move or seem to be drunk in how I talk. It can happen in the time it takes to walk from one room to another, no warning whatsoever.

I was in my doctors office. He did all the little tests and stats and we talked a while, as we were very friendly and enjoyed talking about our lives and he left me to set up my next appointment. I was fine. I stepped to the appointment desk and felt a little lightheaded all of a sudden as I stood there. They made an appointment and I walked outside the building which wasn't a large building. There were about five steps and a security guard standing at the bottom. There was a fast food place across the street and I didn't know I had hypoglycemia. I just knew that when I felt like this a soda seemed to help. So I wanted to get there. The guard watched me come down the steps, stagger to him and asked if he would help me across a very busy street.

He said: No, but I will help you right back into that doctor's office.

Wow, not even a doctor and damn, a guy who may have made eight bucks an hour and he knew I was in trouble!

Sleeping may not be simply sleeping either! Ever heard of a coma because of blood sugar levels? People can die from it! I have had seizures from it as well.

Stop playing doctor here. You could be dangerous. You play with people with medical problems, you damn well better watch for hypoglycemia because even the undiagnosed can come up with it and some are situational hypoglycemic like me and that means not always hypoglycemic but sometimes in certain situations and you don't know the situation often times until you are in it.


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It is possible I have missed a post, but from what I understood the OP's friends just dropped her off and never spoke to her boyfriend.

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ORIGINAL: LadyHibiscus

I do not think it was your partner's "job" to give you aftercare. It IS the responsibility of those that you were playing with to make sure that you are okay, AND to check on you the next day! You had to be WALKED upstairs and they ditched you? I would not let anyone out of my care until they were back on this planet (allowing for the bliss-out, of course).

Epic fail on a lot of levels.

Speaking of your partner, well... how hard is it to be a little bit considerate? It's not like you WERE drunk or stoned. You needed help. If you had woken up with a high fever, would he have done the same?

I have never done the subspace thing personally, so I can't speak to how to recover from endorphin plummet, but what you are feeling is not rare. Take your time, and know this will pass. Eat and drink the right things, and don't make any serious decsions.

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ORIGINAL: NorthernGent


Moral of the story is this: it seems he didn't appreciate her wanting to go off with other people...

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I'm also wondering why folks are equating the boyfriend to the top?  The top who actually played with her was the one who had the first hand knowledge.
Would anybody have felt differently about the aftercare issue if she went to a play party across town and he stayed home?  Even in the same hotel, they really were in two different locations.  If she had been across town, would it have made a difference? 

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You seem to think this is about a glass of water... he got that for her, my issue is not about the water, or the aftercare, it is about the expectations she had on someone without discussing it first.

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ORIGINAL: sirsholly

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I was 13 when my father died, and I spent the last day of his life with him. He was sick in bed. I never checked him because I had no idea he had a heart attack. People, if you care about others it aint much to ask you get your heads out of your ass and not think about your own damn self for 5 minutes... if you think it can't happen to you, that you could ignore the symptoms of someone you love being in trouble and needing your help, think again

You were 13 years old. He would never want you to have the baggage you are carrying.
Pledge to honor him by passing on your story because it WILL make a difference with someone at some time.
In order to carry that pledge you have to first set down the baggage.

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ORIGINAL: AQuietSimpleMan
Hypoglycemia, Hypotension and the Hyper counter issues rarely if ever kill you. In some cases they can get you some serious Hospital time

People are trying to act like this shit comes out of nowhere, it doesn't. It comes from things being ignored for a long time and not being addressed.

No Doctor needed for this...... I can say this.... using wikipedia to diagnose a problem isn't any better than listening to my personal experience... I would always rather someone seek medical attention than not.

QSM

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Why is Hypoglycemia Dangerous?
People with diabetes can usually tell when their blood sugar is low. But the more episodes of hypoglycemia you have, the harder it gets for your body to detect the next episode. This is because your body becomes less sensitive to the symptoms over time. This condition is called hypoglycemia unawareness. Hypoglycemia can even happen during sleep. This can be dangerous because you may not know your blood sugar is low and therefore not wake up to take glucose tablets.

Our brains need glucose to function properly. Recurrent hypoglycemia can damage the brain, causing confusion, abnormal behavior, and seizures. Young children with diabetes are especially at risk because their nervous system is still developing.

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those who have Hypoglycemia, or are prone to fits KNOW THEMSELVES and they take care of themselves.

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ORIGINAL: Lockit

I am situational hypoglycemic. It can happen in a moment and most those moments I don't know what the fuck is happening as I am not all there. I can look drunk in how I walk, move or seem to be drunk in how I talk. It can happen in the time it takes to walk from one room to another, no warning whatsoever.

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ORIGINAL: AQuietSimpleMan

If your Reactions come on quickly, you would be thr first person I met, myself included.When my sugar is bad I am weak and it is usually something I have been feeling all day long, and have not stopped to take care of myself.