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Why do some people call others "trolls"? Wher... - 8/13/2010 3:21:10 PM   
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Why do some people call others "trolls"? Where I come from trolling is throwing out baited fishing lines from a moving boat..Or the story of the troll that lives under a bridge in three billy goats gruff I believe it was called..I LOVED! that story.
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RE: Why do some people call others "trolls"? ... - 8/17/2010 10:04:20 AM   
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Talk about your slow customer service! How long did this post take to get approved?

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RE: Why do some people call others "trolls"? ... - 8/17/2010 10:33:48 AM   
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RE: Why do some people call others "trolls"? ... - 8/17/2010 10:40:59 AM   
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A load of total crap. Trolls dont exist only human misunderstandings. Thats what it is folks human misunderstandings by certain folk of other folk. We cant get on with everybody. Nobody likes everybody.
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RE: Why do some people call others "trolls"? ... - 8/17/2010 10:46:05 AM   
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Now THIS is funny shit...

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RE: Why do some people call others "trolls"? ... - 8/17/2010 10:49:43 AM   
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RE: Why do some people call others "trolls"? ... - 8/17/2010 10:54:15 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Saykiatric
Why do some people call others "trolls"? Where I come from trolling is throwing out baited fishing lines from a moving boat..Or the story of the troll that lives under a bridge in three billy goats gruff I believe it was called..I LOVED! that story.

Both references apply. There are trolls that troll for an answer and there are smelly trolls that are a monstrous pest on forums and who presumably live under a bridge.

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RE: Why do some people call others "trolls"? ... - 8/17/2010 11:15:46 AM   
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RE: Why do some people call others "trolls"? ... - 8/17/2010 11:32:59 AM   
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And then there's the trolls who post threads and are then [awaiting approval],  That would be the main reason for being called a troll.  It's only a matter of time and posting what shouldn't be posted.  Ain't too hard to figure out. 

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RE: Why do some people call others "trolls"? ... - 8/17/2010 11:34:13 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: Daddysredhead

Now THIS is funny shit...

The link is actually funny as hell.


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RE: Why do some people call others "trolls"? ... - 8/17/2010 11:49:39 AM   
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For the OP . This is what a troll is and how to eradicate them
Troll," in the context of message boards and the like, describes somebody who is posting just to be confrontational or to raise hackles. One example might be a teenager who finds a Jewish message board and posts, "The Holocaust never happened." The teen may not know or care one way or the other--he just wants a reaction.  He wants to piss people off. He is a troll. There are more subtle trolling techniques as well. One Internet dictionary (www.whatis.com) gives a real example in which somebody posted about "the discovery of an ancient African carving containing a list of prime numbers." The poster listed some of the prime numbers supposedly on the carving, some of which weren't actually primes. People who saw the message, thinking he was serious, responded with corrections. The troll then announced that those who spent their time responding to him had been "hooked." That suggests how the term got its start. Trolling, to those who don't spend all their time in front of the computer, is a method of fishing where you trail bait through the water from a slow-moving boat hoping to hook an unwary fish. An online troll does much the same. The other meaning of troll--a brutish monster who lives under a bridge--likely didn't have much to do with the origin of the term. But at an early stage it was conflated with the other sense of trolling for obvious reasons: if you've dealt much with trolls, you know you're dealing with some pretty ugly minds. To be fair, not all trolls are slimeballs. On some message boards, veteran posters with a mischievous bent occasionally go "newbie trolling." On the Usenet newsgroup alt.folklore.urban, as of a few years ago anyway, it was fairly common for pranksters to post known urban legends as fact in hopes of getting novice users to go, "No, REALLY?" Gotcha, sucker. The main point about trolls is that they intentionally mislead others. As the Free Online Dictionary of Computing (http://foldoc.doc.ic.ac.uk/foldoc/foldoc.c gi?troll) notes, "Trolling aims to elicit an emotional reaction from those with a hair-trigger on the reply key. A really subtle troll makes some people lose their minds." "Troll" is often flung about too casually.  If somebody is simply ignorant or obtuse, it's incorrect to call him a troll. Admittedly, it's not always easy to distinguish between someone pretending to be wrong and someone who is wrong and doesn't know it or won't admit it.  How does one deal with trolls? That depends on your personality, the overall disposition of the message board, and the type of message board you're using. There are two kinds of message boards: moderated and unmoderated. On unmoderated MBs such as most Usenet newsgroups, no one is in charge and there is no way to prevent a troll from posting short of persuading his Internet service provider to cancel his account. Moderated boards like the Straight Dope Message Board offer more control--truly egregious trolls can be banned and their posts deleted. But most board moderators, including those at the SDMB, reserve that sanction for extreme cases. A post I consider trolling someone else may find thought-provoking.  Too quick a finger on the "delete" button and you open yourself to charges of censorship. Besides, this is the Internet, the closest we've come to a free marketplace of ideas. The prevailing ethic here is that it's best to let everyone have his say, and rely on the good sense of other participants to sort out sound ideas from stupid ones. Which means it all comes down to you. Many people feel trolls should simply be ignored, and some message boards have evolved their own private codes to warn off other users. (On the SDMB, one such code is DNFTT, "do not feed the trolls"). But others dislike the idea of giving trolls free rein. On the SDMB, Cecil's goal of fighting ignorance is generally the guiding principle. If somebody posts misinformation, other users feel obliged to point it out. I'm sure some trolls delight in getting others to respond in this way, but the choice is either that or let a troll's posts stand unchallenged. Ignoring obvious nonsense has some advantages, but what about naive users who may read the falsehood and, seeing nothing to rebut it, believe it?  To prevent that, some advocate responding to trolls once and only once. You refute the misinformation and that's that.  Of course, this is often easier said than done, and many people (myself included) simply cannot sit idly by while the troll gleefully continues to post BS. The other option is to pounce on every last falsehood and fabrication. This can lead to a classic flame war. We've had threads on the SDMB with close to a thousand posts as users attempt to get in the last word with an obstinate troll. These battles can be exhilarating but also exhausting. Inevitably at some point you ask yourself: what's the point? In short, you've got two possibilities--ignore the troll or argue with him. My recommendation is as follows: If the person is a well-known troll with low credibility, post once to point out the flaws and then ignore him. If there's a real chance he may fool people who don't know better, knock him down with facts. SDSTAFF David and — Edkevin

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RE: Why do some people call others "trolls"? ... - 8/17/2010 11:54:26 AM   
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In comedy, timing is EVERYTHING!



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RE: Why do some people call others "trolls"? ... - 8/17/2010 11:55:25 AM   
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In comedy, timing is EVERYTHING!


That's why I never ever ever want to be moderated-it would kill my funny, and my funny is TOO GOOD TO DIE.

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RE: Why do some people call others "trolls"? ... - 8/17/2010 11:56:56 AM   
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Plus you need the following characteristics. Its easy to throw mud and call anyone who tries to generate debate a troll but true trolls must exhibit the following. Hence im not one of them
o matter which route you choose above, there are some very important components to being a great troll and you must embody them all if you want to be truly effective.
  1. It's very important to be a poor speller. I can't stress this one enough. It's against the troll code of conduct to spell words correctly, so proper spelling will give you away as a wannabe very quickly.
  2. You must be creative with profanity. It's not enough to use profanity, you need to be able to use it in new and exciting ways. Sure, you might get a reaction if you call someone a mother somethingorother, but you'll get a much stronger reaction if you specify just whose mother that person has been somethingorothering.
  3. TYPE IN ALL CAPS. I DON'T THINK I NEED TO EXPLAIN THIS ONE, DO I?
  4. Accuse the other person of being gay. When you get into a war of words with someone, odds are they will win it. Why do I say that? Because most trolls are mental midgets and you're a troll, right? So, you'll need a back up plan for when you lose an argument, and few things will do more damage than accusing a complete stranger of being gay. Of course the other person will be humiliated that you've somehow deduced the sexual orientation he's kept hidden from family and friends for all these years and he'll likely be so ashamed that he'll never show his face on the site again. Or maybe not, but it's free to try, right?
  5. Don't let facts get in the way of a good opinion. This is a biggie for a good troll. Go right ahead and state whatever is on your mind and when confronted with evidence to the contrary, stand your ground. Question the other person's sources, as in, "Elias WHO?", and when the source can't be questioned, question the context, as in, "sure, but does it list how often he scratches himself after all base hits, or just home runs?"
  6. When in doubt, threaten physical violence. This one will really show them. Nothing strikes fear into the hearts of others like being threatened by some faceless name on a computer screen. Sure, you're a scrawny, 120 pound geek sitting in front of his computer wearing three day old underwear, but tell someone you're going to kick his butt and everyone will think you're 7 foot tall and bullet proof. All the other people on the site will instantly become afraid of you and no one will ever dare disagree with you again.
  7. Your head must be up your rear end. This is not negotiable, all trolls have their heads up there, without exception.
These are the most important components of being a great internet troll, but explore a little and see how many new ideas you can come up with. You're only limited by your imagination, profanity filters and, in certain cases, law enforcement agencies, so have at it. If you're looking for real world examples, odds are that a few will show up in the comments section below this post.i dont type in capitals. i dont use profanity and im not a poor speller. So im not a troll end ofkevin


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RE: Why do some people call others "trolls"? ... - 8/17/2010 11:59:27 AM   
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That's why I never ever ever want to be moderated-it would kill my funny, and my funny is TOO GOOD TO DIE.

Would an off remark about hoping trolls find an internet death be in good or bad taste at this point?


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RE: Why do some people call others "trolls"? ... - 8/17/2010 12:15:46 PM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: LadyPact

Would an off remark about hoping trolls find an internet death be in good or bad taste at this point?


That depends on your moral compass. Don't ask me, cause I don't have one. :P

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RE: Why do some people call others "trolls"? ... - 8/17/2010 12:24:57 PM   
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<<<<<  Sadist, remember?

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RE: Why do some people call others "trolls"? ... - 8/17/2010 12:26:00 PM   
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Hey, you asked if it would be in good taste, not whether it would be *fun*!

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RE: Why do some people call others "trolls"? ... - 8/17/2010 12:29:34 PM   
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hmm where I come from we don't have trolls

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RE: Why do some people call others "trolls"? ... - 8/17/2010 12:46:56 PM   
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Read the link above, divi.  You might get a kick from it.

Isn't it cute?  All of our favorite internet trolls.  All scurrying for attention at once.  Posting their cute, little [awaiting approval] comments trying to get noticed.


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