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Fellow -> RE: Obama's Accomplishments (8/20/2010 9:05:27 AM)

Max Kaiser:
The most revealing aspect of the BP oil spill was that it showed to the world that America currently has no President. In the sense that Mr. Obama is something like a doppelganger of Mr. Bush during Katrina? Much worse. At least with Bush you knew where he stood. I believe with Obama there is nobody home. He is a ghost. He doesn’t do anything. He is a Manshurian Candidate, he is a robot, he is nothing. He has done nothing, he is doing nothing, he will never do anything. Obama is just waiting to get a job at Goldman Sachs or JP Morgan in three or four years time and that’s it. The White House is a way to improve his resume. The BP oil spill revealed that America is running with no leadership at all. There is nobody at the helm of the ship. It’s running wild with no leadership whatsoever.



popeye1250 -> RE: Obama's Accomplishments (8/20/2010 9:09:17 AM)

I just got back from New England after a week and a lot of people up there aren't very "happy" with Obama! (understatement alert.)



TheRaptorJesus -> RE: Obama's Accomplishments (8/20/2010 9:32:27 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Sanity


When reading the list one gets the feeling that the great Obama is trying to take credit for the sun shining and the birds chirping, much like the propaganda you might hear in a typical communist dictatorship. It sort of hearkens me back to all the "walks on water" jokes that were told about him during the campaign... and the Roman colliseum-type structure that was built for one of his speeches so that he could play the part of a Greek god.

His presidency is more like a Greek tragedy than anything. Judging by his poll numbers hes gonna need more than propaganda this fall, hes gonna need some real results if hes to pull his mess out of the fire. Something other than blaming everything were seeing on Congress (or on Bush) as well.


Every post you make is jabbering propaganda.

Why did you even post this? It wasn't in response to anything anyone had said to your last post. Couldn't it have been contained in there?

Will you return to the thread every time you think up a "clever" quip... "The oil spill was er... a greek tragedy- I bet he wont uh- take credit for! Socialism socialism communist".



maybemaybenot -> RE: Obama's Accomplishments (8/20/2010 9:33:47 AM)

 more than half the stuff on that list is a line item list of things included in the ARRA and a few other bills passed since his election.
I certainly would not say they are indivdual accomplishments of BO. They are items contained in bills he supported.

              mbmbn




Musicmystery -> RE: Obama's Accomplishments (8/20/2010 9:36:33 AM)

I'm much more interested in what got done than how it got packaged.

Substance over spin.



maybemaybenot -> RE: Obama's Accomplishments (8/20/2010 9:57:30 AM)

That's all well and good MM. And you got your " what got done " in that list.
There was no spin.  The above list IS a line item list of things contained in legislation under BO.
You tell me how that is spinning anything ?.
Anyone could make a 100+ list of accomplishments of any president if they listed individually from each bill passed/supported during their presidency.

mbmbn



Musicmystery -> RE: Obama's Accomplishments (8/20/2010 9:59:52 AM)

You just answered your own question.

Your point is irrelevant if the point is what got done.



Kirata -> RE: Obama's Accomplishments (8/20/2010 9:59:56 AM)

And here I thought the Democrats couldn't get anything done because of Republican obstructionism. [:D]

K.



Musicmystery -> RE: Obama's Accomplishments (8/20/2010 10:01:49 AM)

Which, unfortunately, remains the Republicans sole accomplishment.

But a minority has to work with the majority to realize initiatives.




Kirata -> RE: Obama's Accomplishments (8/20/2010 10:03:28 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

Which, unfortunately, remains the Republicans sole accomplishment.

Well judging from that list, I think you are being overly generous in calling it an "accomplishment"!

K.



Musicmystery -> RE: Obama's Accomplishments (8/20/2010 10:09:44 AM)

[:D] Fair enough.

Certainly they were able to scale down quite a few things. As Democrats aren't a unified voting block, Republican opposition on matters from public option to economic policy makes a difference.



Kirata -> RE: Obama's Accomplishments (8/20/2010 10:36:18 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Musicmystery

As Democrats aren't a unified voting block, Republican opposition on matters from public option to economic policy makes a difference.

Yes, and that's the elephant in the room. Cries of Republican "obstructionism" mainly serve the face-saving purpose of diverting attention away from the fact that the Democrats couldn't even unite their own members behind the Party's programs. But instead of manning up and admitting that their initiatives either failed or ended up watered down because they couldn't obtain the unified support of their own Party, we just get this endless finger-pointing at "the Party of 'No'". Fucking bullshit. I don't know how it's possible to have any respect for either of them anymore.

K.



thornhappy -> RE: Obama's Accomplishments (8/20/2010 11:10:11 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Fellow
Max Kaiser:
The most revealing aspect of the BP oil spill was that it showed to the world that America currently has no President. In the sense that Mr. Obama is something like a doppelganger of Mr. Bush during Katrina? Much worse. At least with Bush you knew where he stood. I believe with Obama there is nobody home. He is a ghost. He doesn’t do anything. He is a Manshurian Candidate, he is a robot, he is nothing. He has done nothing, he is doing nothing, he will never do anything. Obama is just waiting to get a job at Goldman Sachs or JP Morgan in three or four years time and that’s it. The White House is a way to improve his resume. The BP oil spill revealed that America is running with no leadership at all. There is nobody at the helm of the ship. It’s running wild with no leadership whatsoever.

Is this the same Max Keiser?
Max Keiser (born January 23, 1960) is a film-maker, broadcaster and former broker and options trader. Keiser is the host of On the Edge, a program of news and analysis hosted by Iran's Press TV.[1] He also hosts Keiser Report, a financial tabloid, that broadcasts on RT (formerly Russia Today).[2] Keiser hosted the New Year's Eve special, The Keiser's Business Guide to 2010 for BBC Radio 5 Live.[3] Keiser formerly hosted The Oracle with Max Keiser on BBC World News. Previously he produced and appeared regularly in the TV series People & Power on the Al-Jazeera English network. He also presents a weekly show about finance and markets on London's Resonance FM. Max writes for The Huffington Post.[4]
[/link][link=http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Max_Keiser#cite_note-3]

The Iran and Al-Jazeera stuff would have many here frothing at the mouth like werewolves!



Fellow -> RE: Obama's Accomplishments (8/20/2010 11:28:46 AM)

Yes, the same Max Kaiser. Here is the correct link for the citation:
http://www.chaostheorien.de/interviews/-/asset_publisher/rAD9/content/america-a-walking-dead-zombie-country?redirect=%2Finterviews



Lucylastic -> RE: Obama's Accomplishments (8/20/2010 11:50:05 AM)

what a sweet chap[8|]



domiguy -> RE: Obama's Accomplishments (8/20/2010 11:57:50 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Cmon. Got his daughter a puppy?

This list is bullshit, hes taking credit for a lot of things that Congress did, that the Forest Service routinely does (such as clearing brush) , etc.

And listing

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Economy, Employment and Labor
1. The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 (ARRA): A $789 billion economic stimulus plan.


as an achievement is laughable. The money was wasted on pork that didnt do anything for the economy in the long run and severely plunged us into debt.



Funny, I have personally seen a lot of road and infrastructure construction beibg completed in and around Chicago with the "The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act" sign posted to show how the construction was being paid for.

Once again I can only assume you are posting complete bullshit as usual.



Sanity -> RE: Obama's Accomplishments (8/20/2010 12:12:43 PM)


Ever wonder what those "American Recovery and Reinvestment Act" political ads which are being placed at taxpayers expense are costing us? And if "The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act" is really working why is unemployment still going up.

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juliaoceania -> RE: Obama's Accomplishments (8/20/2010 12:14:53 PM)

I shudder to think of what it would be without that Act

And making signs employs people too



domiguy -> RE: Obama's Accomplishments (8/20/2010 12:19:56 PM)


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ORIGINAL: Sanity


Ever wonder what those "American Recovery and Reinvestment Act" political ads which are being placed at taxpayers expense are costing us? And if "The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act" is really working why is unemployment still going up.

[image]http://www.cartoonstock.com/newscartoons/cartoonists/gfo/lowres/gfon620l.jpg[/image]




Obviously because the money was all spent on pork which was what you originally posted. Which is not true.

How about this one Einstein. The jobs created by the "The American Recovery and Reinvestment Act" were not enough to offset the amount of jobs being lost.

Pretty simple math even for Chuck.



Sanity -> RE: Obama's Accomplishments (8/20/2010 12:27:32 PM)


The stimulius money is drying up, and what did it get us?

Government doesnt stimulate anything, it seizes money from the private sector where is actually useful then divides it among a plethora of bureaucrats before it ever makes it back into the private sector where it can once again do anyone any good. If government could spend its way through bad times then all any government would have to do to be fantastically successful is print more money, but thats just not the way things work in reality, is it.

Tax cuts combined with government spending cuts are what stimulate.

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ORIGINAL: juliaoceania

I shudder to think of what it would be without that Act

And making signs employs people too



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