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MichaelJ -> RE: Slave Registry (4/17/2004 6:30:01 PM)
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A couple of thoughts . . . .
Gloria, you wrote: "The registry they are talking about does not help you to find a partner. Its merely a place you go if you have a partner and want to share it with the world. You can put in your name and your partners name and print up a cute little certificate." As I said in my recent post on this topic in the Masters forum, the registry actually did begin life as a "personals" site where you could look for a partner. Thanos, the site's owner, disabled that capability about a year ago, feeling that it was being seriously abused.
shai^tana wrote: ". . . a Master may choose that a slave be registered in order to be logged into a central repository of slaves. This could facilitate any number of situations, such as sale of the slave, loaning/renting of the slave for specific functions . . . ."
You are, of course, quite correct, although I am surprised (pleasantly) that your comments weren't greeted with criticism. There really aren't that many who accept that a slave can be authentically owned and that authentic ownership means that she, as owned property, may be, by the choice of her Master/Owner, sold, loaned, rented, traded, or simply given away to another. Those who understand that this deepens rather than trivializes what it means to be Master and slave, Owner and property, are even fewer in number. The "Slave Registry", though, is not such a repository, and the simple fact is that there are about as many players and internet trolls there as there are on any other site.
shai^tana went on to write: ". . . the bar code may be utilized as a tattoo or other body marking on the slave and link to the registration information in order that there is some registration of the owned status and state of the slave. This aligns very well with what the rest of the world does in fact as in when a child is born, one registers the child with the state."
This Master suspects that shai^tana might prefer to live in a world in which the reality of her enslavement could be socially validated and accepted. Regratably, even the so-called BDSM community takes a dim view of M/s situations that some define as absolutist and others as authentic in which a slave genuinely is considered to be property, in which that is how she is defined existentially and is, therefore, far more than a role, and in which she might well be sold if that is her Owner's choice.
shai^tana continued: "simply by externally declaring that the slave is owned property, has a solidifying effect in much the same way as when you say something aloud repeatedly, (like a mantra) it becomes more real. The slave can access the site and view her registration thereby reinforcing her enslaved state. It is often hard in this world to be able to view such a thing in our lifestyle."
I agree. But I think being acknowledged and understood and accepted as slave property by even just one person other than her Master/Owner, one other person, even (and perhaps especially) a vanilla person, who is a regular presence in their lives, would be much more meaningful to the slave as an affirmation of what and what she is than some HTML certificate out on some web site.
shai^tana said: ". . . admittedly a Master may choose to register His slave at any point." A choice I wouldn't make. I would much prefer to cultivate a relationship or relationships with a special few from whom a slave would not have to disguise the fact that she is slave.
shai^tana wrote "Many are registered there as is clear from the numbers posted on the site and without interviewing them all as to their motivation, we can only broadly speculate." Actually, as one who has been aware of that site for a long time, I think you can speculate with reasonable accuracy that many of those registered did so when it was still a "personals" site.
Michael
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