Owner59
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Right......
Let`s see the breakdown in numbers?
lol
What`s the ratio of Muslim nazis to Christian nazis?
lol
God this thread has degenerated. I wasn't aware that ratios mattered in terms of who is a victim and who is an aggressor as it is quite the tactic to point out that because some mulsim folk died in the twin towers, it exonerates the religion itself and points fingers only to extremists.
But let's take another tact. Let's assume christians are primarily responsible for the holocaust given that hitler was a catholic. If that's true, then we can state that christians are also primarily responsible for cleaning up the mess that was hitler, though in reality, economics and bankers went a long way towards creating him in the first place. Even so, if we take that tact, then mulsims are responsible for 9/11.
The mess to be cleaned up afterwards is primarily also being done by christians. By that logic, christians are doing a lot of cleaning of shitty messes.
So we're in a circle wherein those who want the mosque/cultural center constructed near the site claim to be one of reason, yet can't avoid shitty little circles wherein no one makes any real points.
The real point here is that the thread mis-states the position in the first place. It is not islamophobia that drives a good bit of the opposition to the mosque/cultural center. It is where it is built. Granted there is increasing opposition nationwide, but this one in particular drives national debate not for what it is as so much as where it is. I've heard arguments that insist because the building in question was struck by part of one of the airplanes, it should be considered as part of ground zero. Others that paint the picture of it being so far away that it makes no difference.
The issue is not islam, nor a phobia of islam. It is where Islamic folk chose to construct this structure.
The choice to argue it based upon a phobia puts anyone at odds with it on defensive ground to start with, wherein they must first establish they don't hate muslims for being muslims and are derided all the way. It is a classic tactic for which there is a term. I just can't think of it at the moment and am not going to waste time looking for it.
They have the right. They will probably come up with the money. The reality of building it there is that it will accomplish something akin to Bush invading Iraq. It will create more animosity than it erases and the reason it does is not a phobia of the religion but that the religion responsible for the attack chooses to put a structure next to the site.
It is not rocket science.
That wasn`t in reference to the towers.
It was in reference to WWII and the Holocaust.
I was demonstrating how stupid it was to broadbrush people over their faith.
Aylee was trying to make a ridiculous point that a Mosque shouldn`t be built near a death camp,when Muslims had nothing to do with what the Germans did.
luckydog,in his endless capacity for bigotry and Islamophobia was(and has in the past)trying to link Muslims and the Muslim faith, with the nazi Holocaust.
It`s propaganda of the worst kind,on the same grotesque level as the "Elders of Zion"........
The question of the numbers "break-down", was a way to embarass dogiedog.
When I nailed dogiedog for the same dogshit years ago,he called me an anti-Semite.After getting mod-spanked for it,he sneaked back onto the boards and got caught and spanked again.
There`s no shame gene there.
< Message edited by Owner59 -- 9/6/2010 5:53:46 PM >
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