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nursemary -> RE: Can they truly get to know me? (4/21/2006 7:36:29 AM)

Nika,

Given the fact that you have kids in the home, i cannot believe that some of these issues haven't surfaced before.. unless you're out with your children???

I agree with LA on the drama deal.. better to be polite and direct.  To me, it seems as if your master has some shame regarding some of your beliefs otherwise why would he ask you to 'hide' them?  I do wish you well and hope that it all works out for the best, AND i think that family issues cannot be looked at lightly.. mary




Arpig -> RE: Can they truly get to know me? (4/21/2006 8:23:33 AM)

Sorry, if your mother was a bitch after meeting one time, then no, I wouldn't give a fuck about her. The OP obviously made a great effort to ay her master's request to be acceptable, and not to touch on any of the potentially controversial aspects of her life (cowardice on the master's part if you ask me), and the family rejected her...so fuck them. She tried, they spat on her, as far as I am concerned she is under no obligation to do anything except be civil to them...that is all the respect I have for a partner requires of me towards her family (or her towards mine)....try to get on, and if the family won't have you, then screw em, be civil, but I wouldn't waste any sleep over what they think.




MsIncognito -> RE: Can they truly get to know me? (4/21/2006 8:33:21 AM)

I third that! Sophia gave some very sound advice. I hope the OP follows her advice.

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ORIGINAL: KittenWithaTwist

I disagree that the dominant shoulders all the responsibility in this case (or in most cases).

Take the advice of sophia37. That girl knows what she's talking about.




MsIncognito -> RE: Can they truly get to know me? (4/21/2006 8:39:57 AM)

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ORIGINAL: Phoenixandnika

MH

That is exactly how I am feeling right now like I compromised who I am, what I am about if that makes sense.

...<snippage>...

I don't think he asked me to change or hide these things about myself or "curb" my personality ot hurt me I truly beleive he did it to protect me from their judgements because he wanted me to feel comfortable and vice versa. However, it obviously back fired. I just don't know what to do now or IF I should do anything.


If nothing else I think you should remember that you did this at his request so if you're going to blame anyone, blame him. Be careful not to blame the family, because, IMO if what they saw was not the real you then they didn't see the real you because he asked you to be someone else. They may not have been very tactful, but they're not responsible for how you acted while visiting - he is.




Mercnbeth -> RE: Can they truly get to know me? (4/21/2006 8:40:34 AM)

When my parents visited, (they came for a week and stayed for 6!) we had very little compromise. As when anyone visits, beth wore clothes, but that was the only compromise. I still was served by her in every way as if they weren't here. Our bedroom door is closed. Our dungeon is locked and private. beth's 'collar' is discreet and to the uninitiated appears as a necklace. beth's daytime "cuffs" pass as bracelets, her ankle "cuffs" jingle, but still pass as jewelry.

The bottom line after the long six weeks was a comment that my mother said; "I never looked happier". she told beth, "I don't know what you are doing for him-but PLEASE keep it up!" My favorite exchange actually occurred while we were waiting for the luggage at the airport. I was with my father, and beth was next to my mom who is confined to a wheelchair. My mom asked; "What do you do?" beth's PERFECT, unrehearsed reply was; "my job is to keep him happy." I think that set the tone for the entire visit.

Sure we were nervous, sure I didn't want my 80+ year old parents to face something that would embarrass them. But that was the thought. It wouldn't embarrass me or us, it would embarrass them. As it turns out, beth's "service" represented to them an "old school", perhaps Italian/Sicilian, husband/wife relationship. They saw happiness. What happens behind closed doors, be they dungeon or bedroom, is not their business.

It's a similar attitude we have with everyone else. We're honest, we're not ashamed, but we don't wear signs on our forehead. My "sign" is on my left arm, beth's at the base of her back. But ask why beth's always wearing a certain 'necklace' and you'll get the answer. Don't want to hear the answer, don't ask, or at least don't ask the 'follow-up' questions. Unless you want to join us - in that case lets take the conversation to a more private location and you'll hear about and learn as much as you like.

Pride and confidence go a long way. It's difficult to "act" for extended periods. Eventually the "act" wears thin and people see through it. Better to just be yourself. With minimal adaptation a M/s relationship need not be excluded under any circumstance or in any public setting. All that's required is that the people involved prioritize and remember that the "relationship" is more important than anything or anyone else that confronts it. Only when this isn't the case, and priorities are misguided, can problems arise.




LaTigresse -> RE: Can they truly get to know me? (4/21/2006 1:22:09 PM)

In my personal opinion and granted it is just my opinion......BUT it seems to me the the son was trying to placate his family at the expense of the one person he has vowed to protect and love. He needs to get his big boy boxers on and deal with mommy and daddy as an adult. If my family ever treated my submissive like that it would not be pleasant for them and they would be appologizing faster than they could get the words out of their mouth. My relationship and lifestyle choices are mine, not theirs. I do not tell them how to handle their personal affairs, children, marriages.....they have no right to do differently with me.  If I choose a partner to share my life with they should treat her with the same consideration and respect she would offer them. This they will do out of love and respect for me, anything less is not acceptable.




KittenWithaTwist -> RE: Can they truly get to know me? (4/21/2006 1:40:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Areflectionofyou

So..if told by the Owner that she should be vanilla , directly his choice she should disobey? I think not...now its on him, she obeyed , and now he should handle the family.


What I'm saying is that if she wants to make things run smoothly with her partner's parents, it is the responsibility of both her and her partner to create a solid impression that appeals to the parents. Regardless of whether she obeyed his orders or not, the point is that she wants her dom's parents to like her or at least tolerate her. That lies on everyone's shoulders.




KittenWithaTwist -> RE: Can they truly get to know me? (4/21/2006 1:45:37 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Arpig

I believe you are slave to him, not to his whole family. It would be nice if they liked you, but really who gives a fuck what they think, as long as your master is pleased with you they don't matter worth shit.


Perhaps it is better to treat the entire family with respect. After all, if they are looking to build a family of their own, it might be nice for the kids to spend time with their grandparents. I'm sure that Nika's owner isn't looking to kill the bond with his parents over something as ridiculous as a first impression.

I love my partner's parents. I treat them like a second family sometimes. If I had gone by your advice (they didn't like me much the first time I met them--hell, I wasn't Jewish, and I lived with him), I might not be in the great place that I'm in now.




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