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DCWoody -> RE: Thoughts on proposed welfare cuts in the UK? (8/25/2010 5:06:54 AM)
There was a bank bailout here too boi, although they got some good out of it....clobber over the banks, partial ownership of some, which they (the old lot, new govt now) used mostly to keep mortgage rates down. Brain's talking a load of populist crap though aye. EDIT: also...Anerins impression of the welfare system over here doesn't match my experience, I spent some time on jobseekers....have known several people geting various benefits, and it's far from difficult. I imagine it varies greatly from region to region though, as to how strict (or not) the people running the offices are.

Aneirin -> RE: Thoughts on proposed welfare cuts in the UK? (8/25/2010 5:13:46 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: Marini Thank you so much for sharing this information Anerin, I had no idea what you had been through dealing with "the system". wow, I have gained a lot of respect for you. I hope you are proud of yourself, you are a real "survivor"! Thank you for sharing your inspirational story. The trouble with what is thought about the system is the education people receive. Those that have been subject to it often have a very different view than say newspaper reporters and politicians, who by their very status in life and income cannot even think what it might be like. That is why I have zero faith in the ministers running this country, for they have no idea due to them never having been there, they have no experience and as we all know, experience is the best teacher. Politicians are attacking the ''on benefits'' poor because they can and wish to deflect public interest away from the real problems in society, the bankers and the wars for example. The News outlets all have agendas, and they go where the money is to be made and if that means feeding the frenzy of finger pointing to stimulate wider circulation of their product, then so be it, money is their aim at others expense. Oh the guy I said about in my last post, the guy with the master of arts qualification in history, specialising on the American civil war who can't get a job, you might have wondered what jobs he is going for, well the answer to that, is anything he can get, driving jobs, cleaning jobs, anything that has an income better than job seeker's allowance ( £64 a week), is what he wants, so he can at least find himself somewhere to live, as the NO DSS discrimination is so far preventing him from finding a room to let, a job will put him into a situation where he can get a home, be it a room in a house, so be it, a home is better than his current status of homeless and sofa surfing. Oh and I found out also, this ex soldier has been decorated for his service in conflict. What a fine way this country treats it's war veterans.

DCWoody -> RE: Thoughts on proposed welfare cuts in the UK? (8/25/2010 5:24:05 AM)
@Aneirin, tell your mate to stop sofa surfing and move in somewhere, THEN apply for housing benefit. If he's living with a mate they'll usually tell him he doesn't need it as he's already living somewhere, but if he has a rent bill and no income to pay it they will (as in legally obligated) start giving him benefits. Just be aware how much he'll get (eg, if he's under 25 he can only qualify for a bedsit). If the guy wanting 'anything' is really desperate have him ask to go on the 'new deal' system early...they'll give him a part time job which is technically 'training', but he'll get more than jobseekers (although it's not employment, so not a proper wage) while he's doing it. That qualification of his ain't gonna help anything sadly, history is not a useful subject in most proffessions.

Aneirin -> RE: Thoughts on proposed welfare cuts in the UK? (8/25/2010 5:31:44 AM)
The problems I face are because I have some learning difficulties, which transpire as a literal interpretation of what I read and with that failures in correct punctuation and wording of what I read leads to confusion and there anger then forgetfulness as a defence. I have found government forms to be ambiguous in so many instances, to the point they don't make much sense to me and I have to seek others guidance to ascertain what is being asked. Quite often when I do this via the CAB, it is found the forms are in fact incorrect in their wording, yet they are government forms, they should be better than that and one just has to wonder what kind of illiterate moron wrote the form and was it proof read. I function at my best when I receive precise instruction, vagaries I am generally lost with and I am fed up with forms being returned for me not completing the form correctly.

Aneirin -> RE: Thoughts on proposed welfare cuts in the UK? (8/25/2010 5:39:07 AM)
The guy is 54, so already in the age discrimination bracket, and I believe he has done a bit of time in his younger days, so despite the rehabilitation of offenders act, the past might be following as far as employers are concerned in an employers market situation as it is down here in the South West. But, I will pass on what you have said to him when I see him this evening.

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