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RE: How to Please God Every Day - 8/23/2010 1:43:22 PM

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RE: How to Please God Every Day - 8/23/2010 2:45:11 PM

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Why would anyone want to please god ?

Why ?

Just because he is the head honcho of a religion, does that mean he has to be pleased, in which case I again ask why ?

With all the natural disasters that are happening around the world, big events that kill and mame people who have done nothing except just live, why please god, is it fear ?

If people around the world stopped putting faith into an entity which might or might not exist and started thinking for themselves, quite possibly when these natural disasters happen, more lives might be spared, or even humanity might learn to take the worst case scenario as it applies to where they live and there do everything possible to take the extreme in their stride. Instead, it is very uch a case of fingers crossed.

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RE: How to Please God Every Day - 8/23/2010 2:59:57 PM

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“AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals”

Jerry Falwell

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“If you're not a born-again Christian, you're a failure as a human being”

Jerry Falwell

You're quoting a man who dropped dead of a heart attack after being"fine" at breakfast. A year before he had been quoted as identifying The End Times as near and presuming that the anti-Christ would be Jewish. If that's not God saying "take that mother fucker" I don't know what is.

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RE: How to Please God Every Day - 8/23/2010 3:02:40 PM

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If people around the world stopped putting faith into an entity which might or might not exist and started thinking for themselves...

Granting that some (or even many) who claim to believe in God do not think for themselves, as the examples posted by jlf1961 prove, I do not think that this is always true. Perhaps more to the point, I do not think that those examples are people who believe in God. Not one among them would hesitate for a moment to tell you that what they believe in is the Bible. And I would submit that it is precisely this which makes them examples of people who don't think for themselves.

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RE: How to Please God Every Day - 8/23/2010 3:06:01 PM

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“AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals”

Jerry Falwell

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“If you're not a born-again Christian, you're a failure as a human being”

Jerry Falwell

You're quoting a man who dropped dead of a heart attack after being"fine" at breakfast. A year before he had been quoted as identifying The End Times as near and presuming that the anti-Christ would be Jewish. If that's not God saying "take that mother fucker" I don't know what is.

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He likes to quote christians saying stupid things because he feels that supports his opinion that all christians are hateful assholes. I wonder what he would do if someone else started linking muslim terrorist stories in all of their posts and claiming that made hating muslims ok. Oh wait, it's already happened and he jumped all over them. Can you say hypocrite.

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RE: How to Please God Every Day - 8/23/2010 3:24:15 PM

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He likes to quote christians saying stupid things because he feels that supports his opinion that all christians are hateful assholes. I wonder what he would do if someone else started linking muslim terrorist stories in all of their posts and claiming that made hating muslims ok. Oh wait, it's already happened and he jumped all over them. Can you say hypocrite.

Ya know, the really funny thing is that Falwell is a great example of an Evangelical Christian coming to God. After years and years of hate speech after crazy shit he said, even in all of it the man could still find himself in conflict. I like quoting Falwell for his crayz statements at times. What doesn't get quoted or pointed out is Falwell's role in hosting the "Anti-Violence Forum" in '99 where he said "I don't agree with your lifestyle, I will never agree with your lifestyle, but I love you" and "anything that leaves the impression that we hate the sinner, we want to change that."

According to the Christian Bible, we all struggle with finding God and the temptations of "Satan". "Satan" is many things, hate, greed, gluttony, etc. But in moments where a man who would later blame the victims of the 2001 attacks for "causing" them, this man found love. Even if only for the moment he was uttering those words. To me, that's God. In those moments, that's God.

If somebody can't find a moment to know that we as people will never understand how the Divine (not matter how it manifests itself) works and can't take the time to learn and appreciate the moments of clarity that we're granted with, fuck 'em. If all anybody can find is a point to be angry with "God", then that's their inner struggle. They can scream that they "don't believe in Him" all they want...but the more they affirm their inner struggle with the beliefs, the more the affirm their own belief.

I pity the fool who starts his day and continue through life being pissed off at God.

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RE: How to Please God Every Day - 8/23/2010 3:28:30 PM

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ORIGINAL: thishereboi

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ORIGINAL: BoiJen

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ORIGINAL: jlf1961

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“AIDS is not just God's punishment for homosexuals; it is God's punishment for the society that tolerates homosexuals”

Jerry Falwell

quote:

“If you're not a born-again Christian, you're a failure as a human being”

Jerry Falwell

You're quoting a man who dropped dead of a heart attack after being"fine" at breakfast. A year before he had been quoted as identifying The End Times as near and presuming that the anti-Christ would be Jewish. If that's not God saying "take that mother fucker" I don't know what is.

boi

He likes to quote christians saying stupid things because he feels that supports his opinion that all christians are hateful assholes. I wonder what he would do if someone else started linking muslim terrorist stories in all of their posts and claiming that made hating muslims ok. Oh wait, it's already happened and he jumped all over them. Can you say hypocrite.

Considering that the "religious right" talking heads are a major part of the cable and satellite broadcast environment, and have a large following, you are saying that what they say is to be ignored? When you consider that half of the Republican base are non-Hispanic whites who are strongly religious, defined as those who attend church about once a week or more frequently. source

What I am pointing out is that the Conservative Right (i.e Republicans, the Religious Right, ultra conservative religious fundamentalists) have a lot of talking heads that do more to stir up conflict and bullshit. To deny this is hypocritical.

Look at the extremists groups that are part of the Conservative movement in America. Since the 80's the conservative movement has spawned the "Moral Majority," the extremist militia groups, militant and violent anti-abortion activists, gay bashing religious leaders, anti Semitic groups, anti-Muslim groups and of course the latest example of the "Christian Patriot Movement," the Hutaree militia.

Sorry, but in the christian household I was raised in, AND what I have read in the bible basically taught tolerance, not hatred. God is the judge, not men.

I also notice that no one seemed to have comments about the quotes from the living members of the Religious Right.

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RE: How to Please God Every Day - 8/23/2010 3:39:49 PM

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He likes to quote christians saying stupid things because he feels that supports his opinion that all christians are hateful assholes. I wonder what he would do if someone else started linking muslim terrorist stories in all of their posts and claiming that made hating muslims ok. Oh wait, it's already happened and he jumped all over them. Can you say hypocrite.

Ya know, the really funny thing is that Falwell is a great example of an Evangelical Christian coming to God. After years and years of hate speech after crazy shit he said, even in all of it the man could still find himself in conflict. I like quoting Falwell for his crayz statements at times. What doesn't get quoted or pointed out is Falwell's role in hosting the "Anti-Violence Forum" in '99 where he said "I don't agree with your lifestyle, I will never agree with your lifestyle, but I love you" and "anything that leaves the impression that we hate the sinner, we want to change that."

According to the Christian Bible, we all struggle with finding God and the temptations of "Satan". "Satan" is many things, hate, greed, gluttony, etc. But in moments where a man who would later blame the victims of the 2001 attacks for "causing" them, this man found love. Even if only for the moment he was uttering those words. To me, that's God. In those moments, that's God.

If somebody can't find a moment to know that we as people will never understand how the Divine (not matter how it manifests itself) works and can't take the time to learn and appreciate the moments of clarity that we're granted with, fuck 'em. If all anybody can find is a point to be angry with "God", then that's their inner struggle. They can scream that they "don't believe in Him" all they want...but the more they affirm their inner struggle with the beliefs, the more the affirm their own belief.

I pity the fool who starts his day and continue through life being pissed off at God.

boi

http://www.salon.com/news/feature/1999/10/25/falwell/index.htm

So, then you are sinners and you need to stop your wicked ways.

What was it that was said about hypocrites?

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RE: How to Please God Every Day - 8/23/2010 3:50:47 PM

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Considering that the "religious right" talking heads are a major part of the cable and satellite broadcast environment, and have a large following... half of the Republican base are non-Hispanic whites who are strongly religious, defined as those who attend church about once a week or more frequently.

Are you making a connection between people who go to church and those who believe the crap being pushed by $300 haircuts on Sunday morning TV?

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What I am pointing out is that the Conservative Right (i.e Republicans, the Religious Right, ultra conservative religious fundamentalists) have a lot of talking heads that do more to stir up conflict and bullshit. To deny this is hypocritical.

Conservativsm was recently characterized as resistant to change. These Christian Right lunatics want radical and fundamental changes that would recreate America as a Christian nation.

Talk about stirring up conflict and bullshit, you're no slouch yourself.

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RE: How to Please God Every Day - 8/23/2010 3:55:55 PM

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I pity the fool who starts his day and continue through life being pissed off at God.

I pity the fellow who starts his day and continues through life being pissed off at anybody.

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RE: How to Please God Every Day - 8/23/2010 4:18:20 PM

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So, then you are sinners and you need to stop your wicked ways.

What was it that was said about hypocrites?

What?

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RE: How to Please God Every Day - 8/23/2010 4:54:18 PM

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Conservativsm was recently characterized as resistant to change. These Christian Right lunatics want radical and fundamental changes that would recreate America as a Christian nation.

Talk about stirring up conflict and bullshit, you're no slouch yourself.

K.

And conservative politicians are doing their best to get the religious right to vote for them.

By the way, Pat Robertson's 700 club is carried in 95% of the television markets, with about a million viewers a day, and many conservative politicians seek his endorsement during campaigns, or should that be ignored?

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RE: How to Please God Every Day - 8/23/2010 6:01:26 PM

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Heavens no, I don't think people like Pat Robertson should be ignored. I think their crap should be brought to the attention of the widest possible audience, so we can increase their following as much as possible among those susceptible to their message, and foment as much distress as possible among those who disagree. That's the sensible thing to do.

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RE: How to Please God Every Day - 8/23/2010 7:33:59 PM

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RE: How to Please God Every Day - 8/23/2010 7:53:08 PM

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What is wrong with you? You bitch and complain about God harassing you, but you're willingly going to spirituality websites and the like. God isn't harassing you. You're seeking God out, which makes me wonder if it's not just some deep-seeded desire to come home to whatever God suits you best.

The idiocy of this post is just...insane to me.

Maybe you just have a "deep-seeded" knowledge of things like that.

Maybe, but I find peace in a Goddess. It all depends on what makes you happiest and brings you the most peace.

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RE: How to Please God Every Day - 8/23/2010 11:27:33 PM

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So, then you are sinners and you need to stop your wicked ways.

What was it that was said about hypocrites?

What?

Maybe I'm misunderstanding something here, but were you not just praising Falwell for a half-assed attempt to seem open-minded while he was still condemning the lifestyle you are involved in as being a sin?

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RE: How to Please God Every Day - 8/24/2010 12:28:43 AM

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Maybe I'm misunderstanding something here...

The word you were looking for is "misrepresenting".

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RE: How to Please God Every Day - 8/24/2010 4:25:31 AM

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And conservative politicians are doing their best to get the religious right to vote for them.

Oh my god, say it isn't so...a politician trying to get people to vote for them. Next you will be telling me that there are some businesses out there trying to make money. What is the world coming to

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RE: How to Please God Every Day - 8/24/2010 5:43:18 AM

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And conservative politicians are doing their best to get the religious right to vote for them.

Oh my god, say it isn't so...a politician trying to get people to vote for them. Next you will be telling me that there are some businesses out there trying to make money. What is the world coming to

Considering what the Religious Right wants, it would be better for the politicians to ignore them, unless of course you have a problem with the separation of church and state.

The infamous battle cry of "The United States is a CHRISTIAN nation." When, in truth, the United States is based on the premise of "Freedom of Religion."

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RE: How to Please God Every Day - 8/24/2010 5:59:44 AM

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Pandering to the personal interests of voters in an effort to win them over is not a violation of the separation church and state. That's like having a problem with color-safe "bleach". It's not really "bleach" but it pretends and claims to be and, as such, it's violating the sanctity of making whites the whitest.

Now....

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Maybe I'm misunderstanding something here, but were you not just praising Falwell for a half-assed attempt to seem open-minded while he was still condemning the lifestyle you are involved in as being a sin?

You have a great misunderstanding here. The Christian faith is supposed (cuz I actually know what's written in most Bibles...KJV doesn't count) to be based on ideals of charity and forgiveness. It is man's job only to forgive because Judgment and Forgiveness are God's responsibilities, so says the whole of the New Testament.

I was not praising Falwell, I was pointing one of the few times in which Falwell truly expressed sentiments found within the Christian faith as dictated by the New Testament. In that, in those few moments, Falwell was in touch with the God he preached for, reached for, and only rarely came to terms with. If you see that as "praising" Falwell instead of seeing God, instead of seeing the complex nature of Faith and humanity for what it is, then that's your problem and your assumption, not mine.

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