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RE: Tributes... - 4/27/2006 3:32:49 AM   
EnglishDomNW


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RE: Tributes... - 4/27/2006 6:17:35 AM   
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then i decided to take Jasmyn's approach to handling you.

"yes dear"






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RE: Tributes... - 4/27/2006 7:27:15 AM   
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ORIGINAL: EbonyFtshGoddess



then i decided to take Jasmyn's approach to handling you.

"yes dear"







If I may, let me point out that the I feel this poser is a clone.  I don' thave evidence to prove my accusations, however there is a certain M.O. to people whom only posted on two forums, this one and the other RE: List of countries that put America to shame  .  In both forums, the clone states, "You have my word i'll never post on this thread again." Then coming back with a new name. 

MHO, a sub looking for attention, obviously pissed he didn't get it in private mail. 

LMAO, I hope I didn't hit a nerve again, Babe.  I was so looking forward to the razor tribute offered to shave my moustache.

Until then,

Mistress NINA

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RE: Tributes... - 4/27/2006 7:30:46 AM   
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RE: Tributes... - 4/27/2006 7:49:59 AM   
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Status: offline 		While I expect tributes to be part and parcel of a D/s relationship as another expression of my sub's wish to please me, I rarely demand it.I prefer that it be given freely.Tributes can in themselves be fulfilling to a sub who lives only for your approval and to bring a smile to your face.While I do not reciprocate, I make sure my sub knows that his efforts are appreciated.

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RE: Tributes... - 4/27/2006 8:21:42 AM   
darq


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Status: offline 		So, here's a new thought ...

How come it seems that only female dominants ask for/recieve tributes?

I've never seen or heard of a male dominant requesting a tribute. Nor have I ever heard of him receiving one ... At least not in the monetary or toy supply sense of the word.

I have heard of submissives asking for new ideas so they could suprise their male dominant with something. I suppose that could be considered a tribute. Although, with that in mind, you could also call it a tribute when a vanilla boyfriend gets his girlfriend a necklace just because ...

Why is it such a big deal for the female set?

I realize women like gifts ... I'm a woman and I love gifts. But I dont think of those gifts as tributes ... (I guess submissives don't get tributes.) I also like to give gifts ... I love to surprise my signifigant other with an 'unbirthday' ... I'll just randomly pick and day and go with it. The entire day is all about that person. I dont do it for any reason other than that I love them and want to make them happy.

By the way, men like gifts too.

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RE: Tributes... - 4/27/2006 8:42:02 AM   
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Status: offline 		Men dont get gifts. We give them. We buy dinner, we buy the movie tickets, drinks etc etc. all in pursuit of the one 'gift' we really appreciate.

I dont know how I would re-act if a girl brought flowers to the restraunt. Its never happened to me.

We hold out for the 3 male gift occations... Christmas, Father's day, and birthday... and unlike women our birthday is not a state secret, ask and we'll tell you.

I think it goes back to the early days, when we would leave the cave, club some furry little critter, and bring home dinner... Now clubbing little furry critters is frowned apon, we have to drag something back to the cave...

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RE: Tributes... - 4/27/2006 8:42:21 AM   
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Status: offline 		I still think Ebony hit the nail on the head... its an expectation and not a tribute. A gift is given, not expected. Maybe this is why tribute is misunderstood. It even ruffles my feathers. I don’t call it that and for good reason. I EXPECT someone who claims to worship and adore me to provide me with things that make my life comfortable be it service, help with bills, support, whatever. I’m not going to spend hordes of time I don’t have being dicked around by a thrill seeker so if a slave wants my attention I suggest he figure out what’s important to me & does back flips to prove he is worthy of my attention. I’m always open to new ideas & concepts. I once had a guy who was dirt poor and going to school. I could write a great book on how he went about courting me and won. Unfortunately there are few men who are this creative or able to keep their focus on someone other then themselves for long periods of time. That’s a fact. There are always exceptions.


  I’m changing my profile. I offer telephone consultations and training. This is real not phone fantasy for wanking off. I have experience doing this and have help countless submissives, couples and even dominants. I have hand-selected people from this service and it works for me. I just don’t have time to invite weenie whackers out to my private home only to find out they have no clue on how to serve me. I’ll train you how to be an excellent slave. If you don’t work out for me then I am positive you’ll be an asset to another.      

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RE: Tributes... - 4/27/2006 9:07:48 AM   
EbonyFtshGoddess


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quote:

weenie whackers


lol i like that term.

i also agree on everything else you've said. a gift doesn't have to be expensive, but creativity counts.

NINASHARP
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I don' thave evidence to prove my accusations, however there is a certain M.O. to people whom only posted on two forums, this one and the other RE: List of countries that put America to shame  .  In both forums, the clone states, "You have my word i'll never post on this thread again." Then coming back with a new name.


i haven't read that thread so i really can't comment on it.

WeeIttyBitty
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Men dont get gifts. We give them. We buy dinner, we buy the movie tickets, drinks etc etc. all in pursuit of the one 'gift' we really appreciate.

I dont know how I would re-act if a girl brought flowers to the restraunt. Its never happened to me.

We hold out for the 3 male gift occations... Christmas, Father's day, and birthday... and unlike women our birthday is not a state secret, ask and we'll tell you.

I think it goes back to the early days, when we would leave the cave, club some furry little critter, and bring home dinner... Now clubbing little furry critters is frowned apon, we have to drag something back to the cave...


well stated.. i've never bought flowers for a guy (do guys even like flowers?... i digress) i have a belgian male dominant that i see and he has mentioned things he likes or wants and i pay attention. sometimes i'll get him the things he has mentioned wanting. i do it because i appreciate his time and i feel a sincere, non demanded gift is only proper. he doesn't demand gifts from me. i don't mind doing it at all, because i value the time he spends with me and if he wants a gift i don't have the slightest problem doing it. he gives me the gift of intense pleasure.. if he mentions he wants an ipod or caviar then i don't mind at all- it shows my appreciation of him.




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RE: Tributes... - 4/27/2006 10:09:22 AM   
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Status: offline 		I've never bought a man flowers either ...

My point was ... You'd never hear a male dominant say "I EXPECT someone who claims to worship and adore me to provide me with things that make my life comfortable be it service, help with bills, support, whatever."

He might say that he expects his submissive to make his life more comfortable but the idea of her paying his bills or supporting him financially is a speedy way to get a horde of people calling him a fraud and accusing him of trying to manipulate unsuspecting submissives out of their money.

Why is it "ok" for a female dominant and not for a male?

Women are just as capable of working and earning money as men. Female submissives and slaves are just as capable of providing monetary support as males are. So whats the difference?

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RE: Tributes... - 4/27/2006 10:18:30 AM   
darq


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Status: offline 		Here's another way to put it ...

When a male dominant mentions recieving money or bill payment from his submissive many people will immediately accuse him of being lazy and ask why he's trying to have a submissive when he can't even provide for himself. Yet when a female dominant mentions the same thing, its acceptable and in fact defended as simply being part of her due.

Why is that? Is she somehow less capable of providing for herself and those she accepts responsibility over? Is it acceptable for her to be less capable and still 'own' other people? And if it is acceptable, *why* is it acceptable?

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RE: Tributes... - 4/27/2006 10:22:41 AM   
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Status: offline 		Reading this seriously makes me consider changing my orientation ...

If being a Mistress means I can get some guy to pay my bills for me, I'm in!

I mean hell, if I were to ask a dominant to help me pay for the classes I'm currently taking, something which will improve me as a person and increase my value to him in the long-run, pretty much every dominant I know would tell me I was crazy. But if I become a Mistress ... It seems that I could turn around and have a submissive or slave boy pay for it for me and he wouldn't even have to benefit from it later on. He'd just be giving me my due as his Godess.

Yeah, it looks like I chose the wrong path in life. Damn.

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RE: Tributes... - 4/27/2006 10:25:20 AM   
Oumae


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ORIGINAL: WeeIttyBitty

Men dont get gifts. We give them. We buy dinner, we buy the movie tickets, drinks etc etc. all in pursuit of the one 'gift' we really appreciate.

I dont know how I would re-act if a girl brought flowers to the restraunt. Its never happened to me.

We hold out for the 3 male gift occations... Christmas, Father's day, and birthday... and unlike women our birthday is not a state secret, ask and we'll tell you.

I think it goes back to the early days, when we would leave the cave, club some furry little critter, and bring home dinner... Now clubbing little furry critters is frowned apon, we have to drag something back to the cave...


I have bought gifts for subs in the past... I've even treated them to dinner and bought  drinks and doesnt have to be their birthday.  If I feel like doing it I will.

Oumae 

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RE: Tributes... - 4/27/2006 10:30:25 AM   
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Status: offline 		I know some Doms who do help their f subs financially, I also know many f subs who will buy a gift for their Dom as a surprise.

It is not expected or demanded by all  but is appreciated as a thoughtful gesture.

Oumae

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RE: Tributes... - 4/27/2006 10:32:52 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Oumae

I know some Doms who do help their f subs financially, I also know many f subs who will buy a gift for their Dom as a surprise.

It is not expected or demanded by all  but is appreciated as a thoughtful gesture.

Oumae


I do as well but those are people who are already in relationships ...

I"m referring more to the ones who expect it as a due or as a way to prove sincerity on the part of the submissive.

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RE: Tributes... - 4/27/2006 10:58:04 AM   
WeeIttyBitty


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Status: offline 		Why is it "ok" for a female dominant and not for a male?

Supply and demand agian. Male doms are common, female subs are not. Male slaves are common, female doms are not... If you have the rare skill set, you can make demands in exchange for your participation...  Same social rules apply to vanila dating, girls rarely "put out" after an inexpensive meal, and never if the meal was 'dutch' (bill was split)...

If a male dom has the skills, equipment and location to get a professional domination service going, then the more power to him. As he's pretty rare. (I can only think of a couple)

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RE: Tributes... - 4/27/2006 10:59:36 AM   
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Status: offline 		darq,
It might be interesting to put up such a question on the Ask a Master board. I for one would be very interested in seeing their responses.

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RE: Tributes... - 4/27/2006 11:37:03 AM   
slimsub25


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Status: offline 		I cant stop laughing at how far u people will go before u finally admit it to urselves.

U DO IT BECAUSE U CAN GET SOMETHING FOR FREE!!!


HAVEN'T U NOTICED THAT THE ONLY PEOPLE WHO PRETEND ANYTHING ELSE ARE ALL ON THE SAME GAME???????

NINA WILL NOW DEMAND A RAZOR.  OR MEBBE A BLOWTORCH

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RE: Tributes... - 4/27/2006 11:40:20 AM   
EbonyFtshGoddess


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Why is it "ok" for a female dominant and not for a male?


i dont think anyone is saying that it's not ok for a male to do that- it's just more rare. although i have definitely seen it.. i've also known male money doms too.


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RE: Tributes... - 4/27/2006 11:44:26 AM   
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If a male dom has the skills, equipment and location to get a professional domination service going, then the more power to him. As he's pretty rare. (I can only think of a couple)


i know a SEXY ass male pro dom here in LA.. and he's well served both lifestyle and client wise..

http://www.mastertomsworld.com/

if he wasn't my friend i'd probably pay him to session with me.




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