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truckinslave -> Good night for the 'Cuda (8/25/2010 6:52:36 AM)

Joe Miller, a Tea Party favorite, and a Sarah Palin endorsee, has pulled off the upset of the day in this most recent round of primaries. An interesting footnote to the election is that the Cuda beat former Senator Murkowski on her way to becoming Governor of Alaska; her endorsement of Miller is credited with helping Joe defeat the Senators daughter Lisa Murkowski yesterday.

The Murkowskis may hate Sarah as much as some ultralibs, but at least they have a reason [:D]

Story/blo here.
From the Wash Post:
"A Miller win would also be a major boon for Palin, who endorsed four other candidates in Tuesday's primaries, all of whom had won or were on track to win."

Gotta love Sarah!



tazzygirl -> RE: Good night for the 'Cuda (8/25/2010 7:08:30 AM)

Defeated?

I seem to be finding only news accounts of how this is still too close to call.




mnottertail -> RE: Good night for the 'Cuda (8/25/2010 7:14:18 AM)

some are calling it at 49% to 51% with some 7500 absentee ballots left to count.  too early to call for my tastes. 



Hillwilliam -> RE: Good night for the 'Cuda (8/25/2010 7:17:42 AM)

Looks like they need to go to the instant replay booth.



StrangerThan -> RE: Good night for the 'Cuda (8/25/2010 7:56:11 AM)

If I find anything heartening about this election cycle it is this quote from the CS monitor.

"If Murkowski ends up losing in Alaska, she would be the third incumbent senator to fall in this year’s primary season. The other two were Sen. Robert Bennett (R) of Utah and Sen. Arlen Specter (D) of Pennsylvania.
In addition, four House incumbents have lost primary bids so far – Rep. Alan Mollohan (D) of West Virginia, Rep. Parker Griffith (R) of Alabama, Rep. Bob Inglis (R) of South Carolina, and Rep. Carolyn Cheeks Kilpatrick (D) of Michigan."


Note the D's and R's?

The reality however is more than an anti-incumbent stance. These votes are representative of the deepening gulf between left and right. Tea party folks are a decided shift right. If there is a telling point in the pressure, consider an establishment figure that won last night -McCain and his back pedaling into more conservative turf over the recent weeks.

The winners are party fringe. The losers are those in the middle who will have hard-liners to choose from. For a decent percentage of voters, I think it will boil down to which side irritates them less, and which side fucks with their lives less.




truckinslave -> RE: Good night for the 'Cuda (8/25/2010 4:08:09 PM)

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Note the D's and R's?

The reality however is more than an anti-incumbent stance. These votes are representative of the deepening gulf between left and right.


I think the anti-incumbent line is dimocrat spin, and media reporting (by which of course I mean dimocrat spin).

Try this chart: House prospects.

At this moment, of 33 House races rated "tossup" by this nonpartisan site, 32 are Ds. There are 3- count 'em, 3, seats currently held by Republicans that are rated "leans Dim" or "likely Dim". 3.

Anyone who calls that "anti-incumbent" instead of something like "a thorough rejection of 0bama0 and his socialist agenda" is being, at best, disingenuous. Or is in shock/denial. Or works for NBC [:D]



thornhappy -> RE: Good night for the 'Cuda (8/25/2010 6:33:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: truckinslave
I think the anti-incumbent line is dimocrat spin, and media reporting (by which of course I mean dimocrat spin).

Brilliant choice, using "dimocrat".

Weird about the anti-incumbent line, because I've seen that all over Fox News.  Considering that their head of news is Roger Ailes (past RNC chairman), I really don't think that's Democrat spin.

There've been plenty of Republicans urging folks to vote incumbents out around here.



Hillwilliam -> RE: Good night for the 'Cuda (8/25/2010 8:26:40 PM)

Id call her more of a blowfish than a cuda tho



truckinslave -> RE: Good night for the 'Cuda (8/26/2010 5:09:56 AM)

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I've seen that all over Fox News.


So now you'll take Foxs word for it??

Did you look at the map? I don't think they'll be saying "anti-incumbent" Nov 3rd.



mnottertail -> RE: Good night for the 'Cuda (8/26/2010 6:13:34 AM)

Well, case and point though.   So, BFD we got alot of crazed neo-cons defeating semi-moderate republicans, with the exception of hipshooter....

So, the GOP is eating itself, that's a loooooooooooooooooooong fuckin way from actually winning those seats in November, and it remains to be seen whether or not the shitforbrains side of the neo-cons are popular enough to win majorities.  

And regardless of politics, seems to me the DNC has a hell of alot more warchest than the RNC what with the gaffes committed by their Chairman as of late...one can only hope that wal-mart republicans have alot of cash to throw into the breach, what with their giving ways and not wanting government fighting against each other.

So, pretty early in the game to start the pudpounding here, in my estimation. 
Remember, polls were showing a slaughter by the McCain-Palin ticket right up to vote day, even as we were watching the wretched comedy on TV everyday.



mnottertail -> RE: Good night for the 'Cuda (8/26/2010 6:17:44 AM)

duh, I quoted myself instead of edited which is what I meant to do. So, it is removed.  Not that I shouldn't quote myself, brilliant as I am, but ..... 



truckinslave -> RE: Good night for the 'Cuda (8/26/2010 7:05:51 AM)

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Remember, polls were showing a slaughter by the McCain-Palin ticket right up to vote day,


No.



mnottertail -> RE: Good night for the 'Cuda (8/26/2010 7:19:56 AM)

well, right outta the right wing..............

http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sheppard/2008/09/07/convention-bounce-gallup-has-mccain-three  

just for one, I am not going to waste anymore time on this aspect of it. 



flcouple2009 -> RE: Good night for the 'Cuda (8/26/2010 7:57:46 AM)

Ron,

The real problem is the right wing fringe are the only people you can depend on to show up and vote.  I don't have any illusions that the mid terms will go any other way since many of the groups who voted in the Presidential election can not be counted on to show up.

If these pepole would actually vote we could have been saved from 8 years of the Bush. 



truckinslave -> RE: Good night for the 'Cuda (8/26/2010 3:16:06 PM)

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just for one, I am not going to waste anymore time on this aspect of it.


Only because you'll lose.
The article cited was dated some nine weeks before the election, not "right up to vote day", eh?



thornhappy -> RE: Good night for the 'Cuda (8/26/2010 6:05:04 PM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: truckinslave
quote:

I've seen that all over Fox News.

So now you'll take Foxs word for it??

Did you look at the map? I don't think they'll be saying "anti-incumbent" Nov 3rd.

My point is that Fox is widely perceived as the only reputable source for conservatives around here, and is a staunch supporter for the Republican party (and Tea Party) so I doubt it was liberal spin.



truckinslave -> RE: Good night for the 'Cuda (8/27/2010 8:30:31 PM)

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My point is that Fox is widely perceived as the only reputable source for conservatives around here,


They sometimes slip up and repeat some liberal soin without identifying it as such [:D][:D]

Seriously, my personal guess is that they repeat crap like that to keep from being seen as too conservative. Can you imagine the shitstorm if they identified this as an anti-Democrat election?



willbeurdaddy -> RE: Good night for the 'Cuda (8/27/2010 11:00:15 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thornhappy


My point is that Fox is widely perceived as the only reputable source for conservatives around here,


Perceived by who?



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