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RE: Palin vs Brown - 8/27/2010 9:39:12 AM   
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When Cm creates a spell checker and grammer system, I'll use it. Lets just say, I had to learn the English language alittle differently then most. I'm not a writer, but I do try the best I can. Fair enough?

I posted everything one needs to know about the comma the other day, excerpted from The Little, Brown Handbook. While I understand that learning English as a foreign language can be a challenge, I picked up the rules for punctuating German in a very short time.

My post on comma usage was very long, and I did it to help you out. If you don't use it, well, your loss.



I'm sure it was, Hippiekinkster. And dont think I'm trying to bash you or anyone else when I say this: I'm an LD Student (Learning Disability). Lets just say, learning the English language (or any other spoken language), sucks when you have an 'audio information' problem. My hearing is fine but while learning the languages, the mechanics of translating sounds to concepts instantly (which our brains do), was simply not quite working "an intended". So yes it makes writing difficult, for others to understand. I will go back in a post of mine several times and try to fix the errors. So I dont get them all, I'm imperfect as a human......big surprise. So realize, I'm not bashing you or anyone else, for not knowing. How could you know?

But from now on, realize, that I rather get the idea across, rather then not say anything for fear of being wrong (due to punctation or spelling). An yes, I have tried many times to do better. I had teachers in high school who stated I would never finish it; and as I got closer actually tried to rig the system for the failure (yes, it was caught too). Then they said I would never do well in college; So I hold a Bachelor's degree. I've even debated going for a Master's degree in my field.

So to give you an example of what it feels like to be a LD student in school: When I see the word "fiance', my mind wants to pronounce/read it as 'fi-nance-a' (where the last 'a', is short and not long).

So having said that, I believe in the future you will understand I have a legitimate, medical condition, when I post something with.....a few errors of English mechanics. Ironically, I picked up 'American Sign Language' no problem. I'm not deaf (regardless of what past Dommes might have said here and there), just a language without sound. Trust me, HippieKinkster (or any of you), most people are surprised when I tell them, I'm an LD student. People that have known me for years, and observe my abilities are quite surprise to learn I have a disability and the nature of it. I really don't fit the typical profile for a LD student (during the time of my education). And I am patient and forgiving, due to most people not being mind readers.




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RE: Palin vs Brown - 8/27/2010 10:15:38 AM   
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Status: offline 		This whole thread is based on BS. Palin has been supportive of Brown, there is no "vs". Read the article and listen to the interview. She very clearly acknowledges that Brown is about as conservative as you can get and still represent your constituents in such a liberal state.

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RE: Palin vs Brown - 8/27/2010 10:55:56 AM   
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RE: Palin vs Brown - 8/27/2010 11:00:02 AM   
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This whole thread is based on BS. Palin has been supportive of Brown, there is no "vs". Read the article and listen to the interview. She very clearly acknowledges that Brown is about as conservative as you can get and still represent your constituents in such a liberal state.


Its based on a link, to a newspaper (The Boston Globe). I think the issue is, 'what is being conservative'. Like...some sort of criteria, or someone has a list of "What qualifies someone as conservative'. And yes, the guy is quite conservative, regardless of what Palin says. But I'll give Mr. Brown much more respect and credibility over Palin given he's an elected offical by the people of Massachusetts.

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RE: Palin vs Brown - 8/27/2010 11:50:53 AM   
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This whole thread is based on BS. Palin has been supportive of Brown, there is no "vs". Read the article and listen to the interview. She very clearly acknowledges that Brown is about as conservative as you can get and still represent your constituents in such a liberal state.


Its based on a link, to a newspaper (The Boston Globe). I think the issue is, 'what is being conservative'. Like...some sort of criteria, or someone has a list of "What qualifies someone as conservative'. And yes, the guy is quite conservative, regardless of what Palin says. But I'll give Mr. Brown much more respect and credibility over Palin given he's an elected offical by the people of Massachusetts.


He's moderate. And of course there are criteria for "social conservatism" and "fiscal conservatism" (and "legislative conservatism" if you want to separate that from social).

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RE: Palin vs Brown - 8/27/2010 2:15:34 PM   
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Status: offline 		Sarah obviously didn't do her homework pre election of Scott Brown when she endorsed him < kinda sorta >. I live in his former district, when he was our state Senator. He has a long history of being middle of the road and voting both sides of the aisle. He is pro life, something Sarah obviously didn't look into, he supports Healthcare Reforn on a state level, not a federal level, something Sarah does not.

He ran as an independent voice and that's what we got. I worked on his campaign and am a huge supporter of his. Some of his votes in the US Senate, I have not supported < ie: Finacial reform bill > . However, One has to understand that when you support a candidate, you are not going to get some one who votes " your way " 100% of the time. You have to weigh their overall voting record against your own preferences, and pick the big issues and see if they match up against yours.
This is Massachusetts, we will never have a neocon < I hate that teerm > elected to office. A Massachusetts Republican is more moderate and middle of the road.

Anyone bitching about him, didn't pay attention to what he said during his campaign. He has been consistant with what he said he would do. Albeit, most moderate Republicans were mighty ticked off with his Fin. Reform vote. That was unexpected. I will give him his dues on it however. Before he voted and after the vote he went live on 2 radio stations and took unscreened phone calls and some pretty hard questions from the hosts and he stood his ground and gave full explanations as to why he was voting for this bill. I wrote scathing emails to him about the bill and after the vote, he replied to it. While it may not have been personalized to me, it was a reply. Something I have never gotten from writing or calling an elected official before.

So far Scott hasn't responed to her and I hope he doesn't. Having her speak out against him is actually a feather in his cap towards getting re elected in two years. So I hope she keeps on keeping on and railing against Scott. The more she points out the differences between she and him, the better he looks.

You go Sarah !!!!

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RE: Palin vs Brown - 8/27/2010 2:55:30 PM   
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Status: offline 		Again, she didnt speak out against him.

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RE: Palin vs Brown - 8/27/2010 3:06:59 PM   
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Now that we've covered commas and rehashed an old thread does anyone want to talk about Palin and Brown?



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RE: Palin vs Brown - 8/27/2010 3:45:23 PM   
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Again, she didnt speak out against him.


Are you kidding???

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“Well, you know, take the consideration, though, that that's Massachusetts,” Palin said. “Perhaps they’re not going to look for such a hard-core constitutional conservative there, and they're going to put up with Scott Brown and some of the antics there.”
“But up here in Alaska, and so many places in the US where we have a pioneering, independent spirit, and we have an expectation that our representatives in D.C. will respect the will of the people and the intelligence of the people,” she added. “Well, up here, we wouldn't stand for that.”
 

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RE: Palin vs Brown - 8/27/2010 4:22:43 PM   
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Status: offline 		Apperantly, many on the left want to pretend that saying he is a Mass Republican is supposed to be an insult of some sort.

Saying Brown would never get elected in Alaska, is a simple statement of reality, not an insult.

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RE: Palin vs Brown - 8/27/2010 5:07:06 PM   
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Again, she didnt speak out against him.


Are you kidding???

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“Well, you know, take the consideration, though, that that's Massachusetts,” Palin said. “Perhaps they’re not going to look for such a hard-core constitutional conservative there, and they're going to put up with Scott Brown and some of the antics there.”
“But up here in Alaska, and so many places in the US where we have a pioneering, independent spirit, and we have an expectation that our representatives in D.C. will respect the will of the people and the intelligence of the people,” she added. “Well, up here, we wouldn't stand for that.”
 


Again, that is not speaking out against him, it is recognition of what it takes to represent constituents where even the republicans are moderate/liberal. If you want to say she is speaking out against the dumbass liberal attitude of his constituents you would have a case.

In fact I believe later in that interview she even says she would endorse him again.

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RE: Palin vs Brown - 8/27/2010 7:08:37 PM   
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Status: offline 		Actually, she said the opposite of what you think she said. She said he does not "respect the will of the people and the intelligence of the people." How is that what you call "recognition of what it takes to represent constituents where even the Republicans are moderate/liberal"?

I think you got your strange interpretation from all the backtracking that the Republican handlers tried to do after they realized what a bombshell she dropped.

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RE: Palin vs Brown - 8/27/2010 7:22:22 PM   
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Mass is not a uniformly liberal state; the western part is conservative, the eastern part (Boston metro area) tend to be liberal.  It's similar in California.  Folks think it's a uniformly liberal state and it's far from it (I lived there for 31 years).

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RE: Palin vs Brown - 8/28/2010 4:03:35 AM   
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Actually, she said the opposite of what you think she said. She said he does not "respect the will of the people and the intelligence of the people." How is that what you call "recognition of what it takes to represent constituents where even the Republicans are moderate/liberal"?

I think you got your strange interpretation from all the backtracking that the Republican handlers tried to do after they realized what a bombshell she dropped.



If you were doing the incredibly lame trick of cutting up her sentance, it would be very clear lam.

Why do Liberals think it is ok to cut up quotes like that? Y'all do it so often it has to be intentional.


But up here in Alaska, and so many places in the US where we have a pioneering, independent spirit, and we have an expectation that our representatives in D.C. will respect the will of the people and the intelligence of the people,” she added. “Well, up here, we wouldn't stand for that.”


How can your reading comprehension be so poor that you think she is refering to Mass voters?

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RE: Palin vs Brown - 8/28/2010 4:07:32 PM   
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Actually, she said the opposite of what you think she said. She said he does not "respect the will of the people and the intelligence of the people." How is that what you call "recognition of what it takes to represent constituents where even the Republicans are moderate/liberal"?


Too bad she switched back to talking about Murkowski at that point, and was not referring to Brown.

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I think you got your strange interpretation from all the backtracking that the Republican handlers tried to do after they realized what a bombshell she dropped.


I must have telepathy then because I never heard anything about it from "republican handlers". I saw the interview and read this thread. thats it.



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