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housesub4you -> I do not get the news........ (8/27/2010 8:40:39 PM)

other than it's all about the money.  But they keep saying Glen Beck is having a Equal Rights speech tomorrow and comparing him to MLK, but when you comapre facts, GB is about as far away from equal rights as one could get.

Tomorrow, Fox News host and self-professed “rodeo clown” Glenn Beck will hold his “Restoring Honor” rally in Washington, D.C. Beck initially insisted that the rally has no political significance — despite it being located at the Lincoln Memorial and taking place on the 47th anniversary of the “I Have A Dream” speech. He has increasingly claimed to be taking up the mantle of the civil rights movement. Earlier in the week, Beck boasted that the rally will “reclaim the civil rights movement” and called the current civil rights community an “abomination.” While Beck is practically fashioning himself after revered civil rights activist Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. and trying to take up the mantle of the civil rights movement, he is ultimately unfit to command such a legacy. The Fox News host’s views and actions are diametrically opposed to everything the late social justice leader fought for:
KING believed that it was America’s collective responsibility to provide economic justice for all. In 1961, the civil rights leader addressed the AFL-CIO on his vision of the American Dream. King said that his vision of America’s promise was a country where “equality of opportunity, of privilege and property [are] widely distributed; a dream of a land where men will not take necessities from the many to give luxuries to the few.” King helped launch a Poor People’s Campaign based around demanding that “President Lyndon Johnson and Congress help the poor get jobs, health care and decent homes.” The civil rights legend explained that poverty was a problem that couldn’t be solved without a “the nation spending billions of dollars — and undergoing a radical redistribution of economic power.” He spent the last days of his life campaigning on behalf of a living wage for striking sanitation workers in Memphis, Tennessee.
BECK, on the other hand, has repeatedly insulted any government attempt to help the poor. The host has offensively claimed that “Big government never lifts anybody out of poverty. It creates slaves, people who are dependent on the scraps from the government, the handouts.” The pundit has declared that President Obama “really is a Marxist” because he “believes in the redistribution of wealth.” He argued in his book An Inconvenient Book that the reason the poor are poor and can’t be helped by the government is simply because they are “lazy.” Discussing the topic of rebuilding Katrina-ravaged New Orleans, Beck said we “shouldn’t spend a single dime” and that the residents should just “move out.” Discussing the topic of jobless Americans unable to find work receiving unemployment benefits, Beck said he would be “ashamed” to call some of them Americans.
KING championed using his faith to achieve social justice. King called himself an “advocator of the social gospel,” and saw Jesus’s teachings as commanding him to take part in progressive activism to achieve “social justice.” In a 1963 speech Western Michigan University, he said that he saw an “age of social justice” as the goal of his movement. When he spoke out against the Vietnam War at Riverside Church in 1967, he quoted the first epistle of Saint John to demand an end to the fighting: “Let us love one another, for love is God.”
BECK has derided social justice and attacked Christians who want to use their faith to achieve it. The Fox News host told his audience that when they hear the words “social justice” they should “run, and don’t listen to anyone who is telling you differently.” He also accused progressives of trying to “hijack churches” with a message of social justice. He even ignorantly claimed that civil rights demonstrators “weren’t crying out for social justice.”
KING believed in loving those who disagreed with him and engaging in thoughtful dialogue. One of the hallmarks of King’s philosophy and what separated him from many other African American leaders was his advocacy for maintaining thoughtful and respectful dialogue with those who disagreed with his goals. In 1957, the civil rights leader gave a sermon titled, “Loving Your Enemies.” King said that a man must “discover the element of good in his enemy, and everytime you begin to hate that person and think of hating that person, realize that there is some good there and look at those good points which will over-balance the bad points.” He practiced nonviolence and even asked civil rights demonstrators to not fight back when attacked by white racists. He demanded of his fellow demonstrators a “refusal to hate.”
BECK, on the other hand, has repeatedly attacked his political opponents with vicious and hateful language. He has compared president Obama to the Antichrist and said that it was “approaching treason” to elect a more progressive Congress. He has said he hates the 9/11 victims’ families and derided supporters of cap-and-trade as “greedy,” “wicked,” and “treasonous.” When interviewing Rep. Keith Ellison (D-MN), the nation’s first elected Muslim congressman, Beck told him, “[W]hat I feel like saying is, ‘Sir, prove to me that you are not working with our enemies’.” He also speculated that Rep. Dennis Kucinich’s (D-OH) wife must have been under the influence of a “date rape drug” to marry him.
It’s difficult to find two people whose philosophies are so distinctly different than Glenn Beck and Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. While King fought for all people to be able to live a decent life, championed a compassionate version of Christianity that sought to create a better world, and established dialogue with those who disagreed with him, Beck shows little compassion for those worse off, has derided the social gospel, and has viciously smeared and attacked his political opponents. As Media Matters writes, “Martin Luther King would have been on Glenn Beck’s chalkboard.”




truckinslave -> RE: I do not get the news........ (8/27/2010 8:51:18 PM)

Just a thought, but if you're trying to exalt MLK by empasizing any socialist politics he had, it might backfire anywhere but here.




Kirata -> RE: I do not get the news........ (8/27/2010 9:20:17 PM)


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ORIGINAL: housesub4you

It’s difficult to find two people whose philosophies are so distinctly different than Glenn Beck and Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

Dr. Alveda King – the niece of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. – explains why she's speaking at the Glenn Beck 8/28 rally in Washington this Saturday

When I join Beck and all gathered at the Lincoln Memorial this weekend, I will talk about my Uncle Martin and the America he envisioned. I will talk about honor and character and sacrifice. I will be joined by those who represent the diversity of the human race.

On Saturday, Uncle Martin’s dream of personhood and human dignity will resound across America. And the Park Police should consider themselves forewarned: As we stand in the symbolic shadow of the great American who signed the Emancipation Proclamation, we just might sing.


K.




rulemylife -> RE: I do not get the news........ (8/27/2010 10:38:32 PM)

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ORIGINAL: Kirata

Dr. Alveda King – the niece of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. – explains why she's speaking at the Glenn Beck 8/28 rally in Washington this Saturday

When I join Beck and all gathered at the Lincoln Memorial this weekend, I will talk about my Uncle Martin and the America he envisioned. I will talk about honor and character and sacrifice. I will be joined by those who represent the diversity of the human race.

On Saturday, Uncle Martin’s dream of personhood and human dignity will resound across America. And the Park Police should consider themselves forewarned: As we stand in the symbolic shadow of the great American who signed the Emancipation Proclamation, we just might sing.


K.



Her vision of how this is going to play out sounds extraordinarily naive to me.

You have Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin at a teabagger rally.

I expect to see Obama and all Democrats bashed and to hear the same tired talking points as always.

If they actually stick to what they say they are doing then I'll be the first to give them credit.

I'm not holding my breath though.






willbeurdaddy -> RE: I do not get the news........ (8/27/2010 11:03:37 PM)


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife


I expect to see Obama and all Democrats bashed and to hear the same tired talking points as always.

If they actually stick to what they say they are doing then I'll be the first to give them credit.







Why dont you make it interesting, like you'll stop posting for 2 weeks if they "stick to what they say".




rulemylife -> RE: I do not get the news........ (8/27/2010 11:21:45 PM)

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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


quote:

ORIGINAL: rulemylife


I expect to see Obama and all Democrats bashed and to hear the same tired talking points as always.

If they actually stick to what they say they are doing then I'll be the first to give them credit.


Why dont you make it interesting, like you'll stop posting for 2 weeks if they "stick to what they say".


Willbeur, let me save you the trouble of having to go through that because we both know this is going to turn into the typical teabagger whine fest.




DomKen -> RE: I do not get the news........ (8/28/2010 12:39:20 AM)


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ORIGINAL: Kirata


quote:

ORIGINAL: housesub4you

It’s difficult to find two people whose philosophies are so distinctly different than Glenn Beck and Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr.

Dr. Alveda King – the niece of Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr. – explains why she's speaking at the Glenn Beck 8/28 rally in Washington this Saturday

When I join Beck and all gathered at the Lincoln Memorial this weekend, I will talk about my Uncle Martin and the America he envisioned. I will talk about honor and character and sacrifice. I will be joined by those who represent the diversity of the human race.

On Saturday, Uncle Martin’s dream of personhood and human dignity will resound across America. And the Park Police should consider themselves forewarned: As we stand in the symbolic shadow of the great American who signed the Emancipation Proclamation, we just might sing.


K.


Naive in the extreme.

Beck does show startling similiarities to a famous US personality of the 20th century but it isn't MLK. It is Father Coughlin.




Louve00 -> RE: I do not get the news........ (8/28/2010 1:06:30 AM)

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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

Her vision of how this is going to play out sounds extraordinarily naive to me.

You have Glenn Beck and Sarah Palin at a teabagger rally.

I expect to see Obama and all Democrats bashed and to hear the same tired talking points as always.

If they actually stick to what they say they are doing then I'll be the first to give them credit.

I'm not holding my breath though.



I don't know.  Maybe I'm naive in thinking that she intends to instill her presence in honor of what her uncle stood for, whether Beck...or Palin...or anyone else have the same agenda or not.

I hope her uncle's dream of human dignity will resound and she will stand in the symbolic shadow of the Great American who signed the Emancipation Proclamation.  We'll see....later today. :)




Vendaval -> RE: I do not get the news........ (8/28/2010 2:35:23 AM)

Well folks, it will be an interesting weekend in D.C.


August 27, 2010
Beck, Sharpton rallies could cross paths
Posted: August 27th, 2010 06:02 PM ET


From CNN Deputy Political Director Paul Steinhauser
"One hour after the start of the Beck rally, NAACP President and CEO Benjamin Todd Jealous will join Al Sharpton and his National Action Network and other civil rights leaders in a mass rally just a few miles away. Education Secretary Arne Duncan is also participating.

Following an event at Washington's Dunbar High School, the participants will march to the site of the future Martin Luther King Memorial just a few blocks from the Lincoln Memorial.

It's possible participants in both events could cross paths."

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2010/08/27/beck-sharpton-rallies-could-cross-paths/?iref=allsearch




Marini -> RE: I do not get the news........ (8/28/2010 7:00:51 AM)

There is a lot going on this weekend in D.C.
It is getting ready to kick off.

I could go to either event and be there in about 20-25 minutes, but.........

nah!

I will catch a little bit of the coverage on C-Span!

The first big protest I attended was against the Gulf War about 20 years ago.
Than I went to 2 big protests against the Iraq war, the last one was the big one with Cindy Sheehan and it was very peaceful.
I met an older couple that drove about 10-12 hours from Maine, non-stop to attend.
I was moved by all the young people in attendance, and the many, many families that attended pushing strollers, and with very young children.
It was well organized and peaceful, the bands were a nice touch.
People were even dancing, but I digress.
[;)]
I don't feel "called or moved" to attend any protest or march in D.C. this weekend.

Participating in a worthwhile protest or "march" is exhilarating and can often be a life changing event, and worthwhile event.

We are blessed to live in a country that allows it's citizens the right to protest in non-violent marches, protests, and events.
Many countries do not sanction or allow these types of events.


I have participated in at least 7-8 protests since college, and there
will be many more marches and protests I will be involved in, but not the ones going on today!

Both marches will be "interesting" to watch, C-Span time, folks!

Power to the people!
PEACE




Hillwilliam -> RE: I do not get the news........ (8/28/2010 8:27:37 AM)

Beck and Sharpton close to each other (In Proximity).  Hell, I'd buy that on pay-per-view.[sm=fight.gif]




joether -> RE: I do not get the news........ (8/28/2010 9:42:53 AM)

When I think "Restoring Honor" in relationship to the United States of American; Glenn Beck would not have been on my short list of speakers. He does not instill any confidence, that his 'speech', will be a benefit or reminder of American concepts and values. That taking the time, to express actual regret, rather then the twisted mockery that he is known for on his show and radio castings. Still, the chance that Mr. Beck actually does something 'good' and 'reasonable' for America, rates about at the same level as my winning the Powerball Jackpot today. If I had the choice: A) Mr. Beck having speech that renounces the conservative crap in favor of all citizens being Americans first....OR....B) I winning the Powerball Jackpot tonight? I'll take B. =)




truckinslave -> RE: I do not get the news........ (8/28/2010 12:18:46 PM)

Hell, Hill, Sharpton gets on my nerves more and faster than Beck, but I'd still have to take him in the first round.




Hillwilliam -> RE: I do not get the news........ (8/28/2010 12:56:37 PM)

He DOES have a weight advantage.  Also, if Beck ever tried to close and grapple, that hair gel would make it difficult.




willbeurdaddy -> RE: I do not get the news........ (8/28/2010 3:42:27 PM)


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ORIGINAL: rulemylife

quote:

ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy


quote:

ORIGINAL: rulemylife


I expect to see Obama and all Democrats bashed and to hear the same tired talking points as always.

If they actually stick to what they say they are doing then I'll be the first to give them credit.


Why dont you make it interesting, like you'll stop posting for 2 weeks if they "stick to what they say".


Willbeur, let me save you the trouble of having to go through that because we both know this is going to turn into the typical teabagger whine fest.



Beck doesnt even know you and he proved you wrong, its so easy.




StrangerThan -> RE: I do not get the news........ (8/28/2010 3:56:01 PM)

After reading all you wrote, I only have one word.

So?




StrangerThan -> RE: I do not get the news........ (8/29/2010 6:13:20 AM)

"Alveda King, a niece of the late civil rights leader, also participated in the "Restoring Honor" rally, saying that her uncle would have approved of the event. "If Uncle Martin could be here today, he would sure commend us of giving honor where honor is due," she told a large, cheering crowd. King said earlier she's been accused of hijacking "the dream," but on CNN's "Anderson Cooper 360" on Friday night, she said "the dream" is in her genes. "I don't have to reclaim the civil rights movement, I'm part of the civil rights movement," she said, noting her family's home and her father's church were bombed when she was younger. "
http://www.cnn.com/2010/POLITICS/08/28/glenn.beck.rally/index.html

Now I've listened to Glen Beck maybe three times in my life and those were times stuck on some road to nowhere with an AM station the only thing on the radio.

But this quote says it in a way that draws a clear point to those who would shout civil rights from the mountain tops, then express outrage when they are executed.




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