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sensualkiten -> submissive or not? (4/21/2006 6:46:51 PM)
I am wondering after reading some of the posts on here if there are subs out there like me. I shall have to ask at tomorrows Masters and slaves meeting (MAST) I desire to serve and obey but that doesnt mean i always succeed. And part of what i need in a Dominant is firm guidance. I need a bit of the Guardian in my Dom. I need some pushing to eat right and things. I can have a very innocent child like view of things. I often feel better when I am watched over by a protective guiding male figure. Part of this is becuase of how i view the world and part of this is becuase i can be a happy little headstrong brat. i dont cuss people out but i can get snippy. i dont vandalize things but i can sneak candy lol i look at a Dom as the person i can look up to and the person i can count on to help me be the best i can be. I have an inner honor code and i tell on myself if i do something wrong too. So i dont really play catch me if you can games. I look at the Dom as someone who is protecting me not someone i have to thwart. Part of me is afraid that everyone on this board is going to intstantly stand up and say if you dont do what your Dominiant tells you all the time you are not submissive. i fear the prevailing opinion will be that anyone who has a brat side is not submissive.LOL but i am daring to post this anyway. besides i do not require anyones opinion to make me submissive. i am just curious. i am searching for myself.. The good side of me is i have served til my heart, body, brain, et al have ached. and i take a mean spanking. and i am passionate about making others happy. :)

juliaoceania -> RE: submissive or not? (4/21/2006 7:33:04 PM)
This is a good question... I asked something similar on another thread and only got one reply.... Who decides a sub is a sub, or just a bottom? Is there some test we have to pass? Or does a sub need to serve a Master/Dom in a 24-7 TPE for a period of time before she can be "deemed" a sub? I am new to the boards here, and as I stated on another thread I have been trying to be a sub in most of my vanilla relationships without even realizing I was doing it... Can't this be an innate thing? Or do we have to be trained to be a sub? Really curious to know On Edit, I know my own opinion, I just wanted to hear what the dominants here thought about the question

CrappyDom -> RE: submissive or not? (4/21/2006 7:43:36 PM)
MasT is in interesting group, I have attended more than few meetings in the bay area. What I most enjoyed were seeing the various gay relationships as they were often more extreme and varied than us straights. That said, there are all sorts of submissives and don't get hung up on labels. Besides, in my experience, the most interesting submissives were always the ones that also required the most work. But take my thoughts with a grain of salt cause don't forget, I am a pervert.

Reasonable -> RE: submissive or not? (4/21/2006 7:53:46 PM)
Humanity defies perfection. Don;t expect to be. The question to ask may well be-"Is what I offer his desire?" And that is for him to decide,not you.

cillydom -> RE: submissive or not? (4/21/2006 8:05:23 PM)
I wrote an extensive essay about my theory of d/s m/s dynamics, it’s in my profile in my journal and it covers much of what is in your question.

feastie -> RE: submissive or not? (4/21/2006 8:55:39 PM)
I find this quite helpful. http://www.westom.com/leather/nine_degrees_of_submission.htm

sensualkiten -> RE: submissive or not? (4/21/2006 9:36:26 PM)
i have read the nine degrees of submission and i had to make up my own :) its hard to truely fit solely in any one degree. and julieoceania i honestly believe that it is very possible to be innately sumissive. i had those leanings very strongly as a young child. i think "training" just hones the skills and whets the desires in one that is innately submissive and in one who is not submissive it would fall upon deaf ears.

VikingHouse -> RE: submissive or not? (4/21/2006 9:48:22 PM)
The very complexities that affects any interactions between two or more will present its own dynamic. There are girls that have an almost measureable example of inherent submissiveness, don't doubt it, I can and will warrant that it's there. Honest communications and explorations of one another will eventually give you enough information as to whether there's a future together. Sorry, But, Blue is begging for her dinner. Gentry

juliaoceania -> RE: submissive or not? (4/21/2006 9:53:22 PM)
About the brat in you? I do not know many people that do not have that brat side...lol.

slaveofdarkhold -> RE: submissive or not? (4/21/2006 10:01:08 PM)
I understand what you're saying and my feelings are quite similar. I consider myself deeply submissive, but by no means perfect. I want to strive to be perfect for my Master, but that takes two people- I need his guidance, protection, support and occassionally a firm hand because like most people I sometimes feel sulky or cranky or just have a lack of willpower. My Master and I have to work together to overcome it, but it doesn't make me any less submissive, or my desire to serve any less valid or deep.

Wulfchyld -> RE: submissive or not? (4/21/2006 10:50:42 PM)
It should matter to you and who your involved with. I have yet to see the Great Golden Guide of D/s. What I think is submissive you may not, what you think as dominant I may not. We can look at the generalized idea and roughly gauge ourselves into a category. However, ultimately you are going to identify with what “feels” right for you. I wouldn’t fear others opinions, only your lifestyle circle understand where you’re truly coming from anyway. On that I shall say I am Wulfchyd 9072.0009111293 Dom on the GGG of D/s scale. Smiling most mischievously Loki

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