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jlf1961 -> More National Guardsmen to the border (8/30/2010 7:29:10 PM)

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Additional Guard troops deployed to Arizona border

(CNN) -- Additional National Guard troops assigned to the Mexican border under President Barack Obama's border security initiative have started reporting to their posts, officials said Monday.

More than 30 National Guard members have begun their deployment as part of the administration's border protection plan, according to Special Agent Mario Escalante with U.S. Customs and Border Protection.

Troops will continue to arrive over the next two months, with an expected force of 532 members by the end of October, said Lt. Valentine Castillo of the Arizona National Guard.


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Sooner or later, the government is going to have to put actual troops on the border, unless they can come up with enough border patrol agents to effectively police and close the border to illegals.




Hillwilliam -> RE: More National Guardsmen to the border (8/30/2010 8:00:37 PM)

Are you saying that our national guard is incapable of kicking ass?




jlf1961 -> RE: More National Guardsmen to the border (8/30/2010 8:50:06 PM)

Not when they are there in a strictly support role.




thornhappy -> RE: More National Guardsmen to the border (8/30/2010 9:19:12 PM)

Here's hoping they can stop those ranch invasions! [:D]




popeye1250 -> RE: More National Guardsmen to the border (8/30/2010 10:06:01 PM)


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ORIGINAL: thornhappy

Here's hoping they can stop those ranch invasions! [:D]


Ranch invaisions are bad enough but it's the drug cartels that pose the most danger.
The Mexican govt. probably won't be able to stand up to them much longer, it's the cartels that run the country.
How many mass graves have they found in the last month alone?




servantforuse -> RE: More National Guardsmen to the border (8/31/2010 5:06:43 AM)

1961 is right. They are there for a support role only. It will be a waste of time having them there with one hand tied behind their backs. They will only be allowed to shoot in self defense. That might be to late when the cartels shoot to kill.




mnottertail -> RE: More National Guardsmen to the border (8/31/2010 5:16:10 AM)

I hope to fuck the people of arizona are paying for this protection, they already get more federal money than they put into the kitty.




servantforuse -> RE: More National Guardsmen to the border (8/31/2010 5:24:35 AM)

They are there to protect the United States border.




mnottertail -> RE: More National Guardsmen to the border (8/31/2010 5:34:16 AM)

I don't give a fuck, it was more important to go out and bankrupt our treasure spreading our enlightenment to the world for these past 8 years or so than it was to secure our own borders, now goddammit, whos gonna pay for this?  Nobody is protecting minnesota borders from canada. I thought it was the neo-cons lying about  less government right?  except for most of the time with you guys.... remember...our government fucks everything up, thats what you are always saying,  why not have some local for profit company do this shit and add it to someones sewer and garbage bill?


Why the fuck should I pony up for these welfare patients who obviously (if you look at the numbers with their goddamn foreclosure rate) precipitated the housing mortgage crisis?

Thats the question on everything, right?  Its a fucking mantra.  So-------who the fuck is paying for this, how is this gonna be revenue neutral, and why isn't a corporation doing this, since there is little doubt the government intrusion like this is fucking things up?




servantforuse -> RE: More National Guardsmen to the border (8/31/2010 5:52:38 AM)

Finally making an attemp to secure our border is money well spent. If Blackwater Security can do a better job, I'm all for that to.




truckinslave -> RE: More National Guardsmen to the border (8/31/2010 7:05:28 AM)

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They will only be allowed to shoot in self defense.


IMO that is the only time anyone should be allowed to use lethal force. And I'm a "gun nut".

That said, I wish I thought these guys would be in the field instead of manning desks.




mnottertail -> RE: More National Guardsmen to the border (8/31/2010 7:15:41 AM)

you wish you thought it?

it would be against the law as I read it.

YMMV.




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