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ORIGINAL: amayos

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ORIGINAL: Unameme
Mental Bondage. Im not sure what it is, really.
If I was to guess it's being restrained without fetters, but what does that mean ? 

Mental bondage employs a wide pool of psychological implements and tactics, operating ultimately to mold the mind of a submissive creature to another's will. It involves loosely the following components:

a.) Seduction and influence
b.) Empathetic bonding
c.) Implantation and Classical Conditioning
d.) Fostering dependency & transparency
e.) Internalization and reprogramming
f.) Continued reinforcement


In short, it is the process of stripping the mind naked, and using that nakedness to forge a leash stronger than any chain.

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ORIGINAL: Unameme

To, amayos,
i did answer Yes to all but C.} as You stated below,
and only didn't answer Yes to C.} because im not sure
of the Dynamics behind "implantation and classical conditioning.
im thinking ,

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ORIGINAL: ScooterTrash

To me, and this is just me, having someone mentally bound in a relationship, an M/s or D/s relationship particularly, is something altogether different. I look at this as a committment and bonding that goes so deep, one that is so intense, that it is controlling without words. If a relationship has transcended to this point, no physical gesture of appreciation or punishment is necessary, it can be done with a subtle look.....
 
to non-verbal control, an almost "ESP" type of communication where feelings are felt, not heard. 

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ORIGINAL: champagnewishes

Classical or operant condintioning is one way to obtain mental bondage albeit a physical training in an attempt to evoke a mental reaction.  It results in reflexive actions to physical stimulus thus limited in it's effects and use.

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ORIGINAL: Padriag

Neither operant nor respondent conditioning is limited to purely physical stimuli or training.  While many unconditioned stimuli are physical (biological) in nature, not all are.  Further, once conditioned stimuli have been introduced (which may be from a broad range of stimuli) physical prompts are no longer necessary.  For example, I mentioned above that dolphin trainers use a form of respondent conditioning in teaching the dolphins to do tricks.  Specifically they begin by pairing a clicking noise with being fed fish, making the clicking noise a conditioned stimulus (CS).  There after they use the clicking noise in training to prompt the dolphin in learning to perform tricks in place of feeding them fish.  In working with children, the simple act of verbal praise is another form of non-physical CS that can be very effective (and also works quite well with submissives).

It is also inaccurate to say these forms of conditioning result in reflexive physical actions.  What they create are conditioned behaviors, which may be expressed physically, but can also include emotional responses as well (termed CERs, conditioned emotional responses).  Probably one of the most famous examples of this was an experiment by Watson and Rayner in 1920 involving a 1 year old child.  The child, Albert, was conditioned to fear a white rat where previously the child had not been afraid.  Although now deemed an unethical experiment, it none-the-less demonstrates the utility of operant and respondent conditioning in producing a wide range of behaviors, including emotional responses. 

Simply put, to characterize operant and respondent conditioning as being of limited use, is to grossly underestimate their application.

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ORIGINAL: champagnewishes

My appologies.  I did not mean to imply their application were not worth merit.  Rather it would be more like handing a culinary chef and ez bake oven.  Functional...yes....living up to the chef's potential...no.

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ORIGINAL: Unameme

Mental Bondage, 
im not sure what it is really ?
If i was to guess its being restrained without fetters.
But what does that mean ? 
Is it obeying a Domme/ Dom's command like not leaving the house,
or not doing certain bodily functions on one's own ?
is it being put in a corner ? and staying there ?
i would really like to know about this,
Anyone care / would explain this .
Thanks in advance , Sincerely Unameme.

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ORIGINAL: Padriag

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ORIGINAL: Unameme

Mental Bondage, 
im not sure what it is really ?
If i was to guess its being restrained without fetters.
But what does that mean ? 
Is it obeying a Domme/ Dom's command like not leaving the house,
or not doing certain bodily functions on one's own ?
is it being put in a corner ? and staying there ?
i would really like to know about this,
Anyone care / would explain this .
Thanks in advance , Sincerely Unameme.

While Celeste, Amayos and others have commented, I think one important division has been left out.  Mental bondage is being conditioned to a state wherein, one obeys or responds without conscious choice, that is, your behavior is or appears automatic.

A simple example would be putting your hand on a hot stove.  Suppose you started to touch the burner on a stove and felt it was hot.  Feeling that heat, you pause and make a choice not to move your hand any closer.  That involved choice.  But suppose you were in a hurry or not paying attention, and actually put your hand on the hot burner.  Immediately you pull it away without thinking... that's an automatic response, you didn't make a choice.

Now keeping that in mind, let's look at your examples.

You are given a command not to leave the house?  You choose to obey.  That's not mental bondage, that's simple obedience.
You choose to refrain from various bodily functions when told?  Again, simple obedience.
You are put in a corner and stay.  Again, obedience.

Now some other examples.

A submissive is whipped with a flogger and becomes sexually excited despite the pain after being conditioned to respond this way.  This is involuntary, this is mental bondage.
A submissive is trained not to orgasm without permission, and even when having a "wet dream" does not orgasm even though they are sleeping.  This is involuntary, this is mental bondage.
A submissive is trained to always drop to all fours when placed on a leash, and as a result feels an overwhelming urge to do so anytime a leash is attached to their collar.  This is an involuntary response, this is mental bondage.
A submissive is taught to speak only in third person when referring to themselves until it becomes an habit performed automatically.  This is involuntary and thus is also a form of mental bondage.

Does that help clarify the difference?  Mental bondage means you obey without conscious choice, it feels like a reflex, an overpowering urge, a need.  Its literally submitting your free will to another to the point some of that free will is removed in observable and measurable ways.

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ORIGINAL: Padriag

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ORIGINAL: champagnewishes

My appologies.  I did not mean to imply their application were not worth merit.  Rather it would be more like handing a culinary chef and ez bake oven.  Functional...yes....living up to the chef's potential...no.

I'd be very interested in hearing you expand on that statement.  How do you see behavioral psychology and behavior modification as equivalent to an "ez bake oven"; and what then do you consider the tools of a "culinary" dominant?

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ORIGINAL: Bearlee

Okay...so the reason I don't get sexually aroused at pain is cuz nobody taught me?  Lordy, I do feel better…I thought I was a duffus or something.  I get turned on by Sadists…not by the pain they cause me.  I like to watch them, be the object of their pleasure, and share in their delight.  Pleasing a Sadist turns me on.  Does that make sense?

Sheeshhhhhhhh… all this time I thought I was doing something wrong.  While I do like to get whipped bloody; it hurts like HELL!  But… OMG, the smile on his face!

Soooooooo… maybe with the right Dominant and enough time; I could learn a new trick…she says, cheekily.