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sothernnyte -> To scream or not to scream: Fake! that is... (9/2/2010 10:17:00 AM)

i've noticed so many profiles by Dominants and submissives alike that contain some journal entry about everyone being fake..etc.

how many of the people have they encountered truly fake? are they screaming fake because someone refused to meet them so they obviously had to be fake? they refused to submit to every Dominant....must be fake... Every Dominant didnt want them therefore said Dominants must be fake.

did it ever occur to those that create messages like that,... that perhaps that person just was not interested in them? that is just wasnt a match?

i have talked to several Dominants. things didnt pan out. no one's fault. it just wasnt in the stars. no one was fake in that. it just wasnt meant to be.

and now, i've met the most wonderful Mistress ... my match.. my heart and soul... my connection.

but i didnt scream fakes all along the way until i got to one that said yes and worked out.

Does that ever bother anyone else? just curious.

thanks
sothernnyte



Twoshoes -> RE: To scream or not to scream: Fake! that is... (9/2/2010 10:19:38 AM)

I'm so fake that my ears are glued on with sugar and toothpaste.

There is similiar thread in the "Off Topic" section, currently.



mnottertail -> RE: To scream or not to scream: Fake! that is... (9/2/2010 10:19:53 AM)

Its sorta like the lesbians and the NO MEN NO MEN NO MEN thing, you ever see anything in your life more like waving a red cape in front of a bull than that?

The reason they're seeing them, is because they are inviting them.



Whiplashsmile4 -> RE: To scream or not to scream: Fake! that is... (9/2/2010 10:20:14 AM)

It's difficult for anybody to be 100% fake or 100% for real. Anyways, if you are using other people's pictures and telling stories and lots and lots of lies... you're a fake. LOL



GreedyTop -> RE: To scream or not to scream: Fake! that is... (9/2/2010 10:20:20 AM)

I have never encountered a "fake".. just, rarely, someone who wasnt right FOR ME.



mnottertail -> RE: To scream or not to scream: Fake! that is... (9/2/2010 10:21:09 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: Twoshoes

I'm so fake that my ears are glued on with sugar and toothpaste.



I so thought this was gonna be holly writing this, for truth. 



myotherself -> RE: To scream or not to scream: Fake! that is... (9/2/2010 10:22:25 AM)

I've encountered psychos, wankers and weirdos...but none that I could label "fake" [:D]



sothernnyte -> RE: To scream or not to scream: Fake! that is... (9/2/2010 10:23:59 AM)

mnottertail....yeah just like that. im a lesbian..and i dont have a No MEN sign..i do however say that i will not be in a sexual relationship...

or putting up nude pics...lesbians that is...and expecting men not to reply to it. thats just unfair



subsfaith -> RE: To scream or not to scream: Fake! that is... (9/2/2010 10:27:29 AM)

"Fake" is a great term, one that gets bandied about a great deal when people aren't getting their own way.

I once dated a guy who faked a huge amount of experience within the 'scene'... but that didn't make him a fake, just a worthless liar. Funny...





SubPet715 -> RE: To scream or not to scream: Fake! that is... (9/2/2010 10:28:06 AM)

By fake what is usually means is that the other person disappointed them somehow, a common one among submissive men like myself is trying to top from bottom. For instance the sub in question will make demands of the domme, trying to take control of the situation, this isn't a very submissive attitude as when you are in service to a domme you are under their control and are there for their enjoyment. So they are marked as "fake" and rightly so due to their own actions, most people have themselves to blame.

It works in reverse, when a domme/dom expects because a profile exhibits an eager attitude that the sub is to simply drop all vestige of individuality in the face of a dominant. Which simply isn't true, the amount of mail I receive from transexuals/women/men that say something to the effect of "You're mine now" is pretty astounding. Those people too would be marked down as fake, at least to me because if one things deeply about a D/s relationship it doesn't come anywhere near close to the two examples I just gave.

For me personally while I see many people like that on this site they do not warrant my time or effort to type out in a journal entry about how fake everyone is. They simply are, move on and know that your personality will attract a suitable domme, that things take time and you must learn to be patient.

Your attitude is most likely the reason you have such a wonderful domme today, you did not take the phony people here to heart, you ignored them and pressed forward with what your heart wanted. I am very happy for you because what you have is special and a stalwart personality such as yours is a likely reason you are enjoying that happiness today.

Besides that it does bug me to see someone write in a journal about fakes as much as it bothers me when someone comes on the message board and writes fakes. Did they expect anything different from how people are in the real world? It is a major turn off to see that in a journal of a domme because it makes me think I will have to work much much harder at earing an iota of trust regardless of how sincere I may be.



poise -> RE: To scream or not to scream: Fake! that is... (9/2/2010 10:30:40 AM)

Im of the opinion that those that put forth an effort to rant and rave in thier profile are not doing so out of
something they personally experienced, but they have jumped on a bandwagon that seems to be increasingly popular.
I feel they believe that by posting rants like this, it gives others the opinion that they are wise enough to know the
difference between real and fake, hence making them appear more "real" themselves. Its a vicious cycle.[8|]
Im learning the fine art of tuning them out.
Congrats on finding your dream connection! Continued happiness to you both.



KariCloud -> RE: To scream or not to scream: Fake! that is... (9/2/2010 10:31:54 AM)

I generally assume that those who call others fake actually mean that the person was incompatible but can't outright say so without damaging their fragile egos.

There are definitely a number of profiles that purposefully misrepresent the actual person and are *scams* asking for money. I think that there are unlikely to be as many of these as people say there are, and I don't see the point of complaining about the scams. On every person's cmail page, it clearly says "Do not send money to strangers" (as if adults need to be told this!) and so anyone who falls for a scam is illiterate, stupid, or too rich.

Of course, if someone is a "scam" but isn't asking for money, I'll suspect the same thing as if they were called a "fake". It's easier to say "fake" or "scam" than to actually admit that you aren't perfect for everyone, I guess.

Either way, when I see any complaining of that nature on a person's profile, I hide it and move on. It is an instant turn-off.

Kari the Copepod
-who is NOT a fake or a scam, but just cute. :D



mnottertail -> RE: To scream or not to scream: Fake! that is... (9/2/2010 10:32:26 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: sothernnyte

mnottertail....yeah just like that. im a lesbian..and i dont have a No MEN sign..i do however say that i will not be in a sexual relationship...

or putting up nude pics...lesbians that is...and expecting men not to reply to it. thats just unfair


in mail controls they can just send men to bulk without a word, and put up any picture they want that the site would allow, for; what is the sound of one hand clapping? 



sothernnyte -> RE: To scream or not to scream: Fake! that is... (9/2/2010 10:35:46 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: SubPet715


For me personally while I see many people like that on this site they do not warrant my time or effort to type out in a journal entry about how fake everyone is. They simply are, move on and know that your personality will attract a suitable domme, that things take time and you must learn to be patient.

Your attitude is most likely the reason you have such a wonderful domme today, you did not take the phony people here to heart, you ignored them and pressed forward with what your heart wanted. I am very happy for you because what you have is special and a stalwart personality such as yours is a likely reason you are enjoying that happiness today.



this is what i mean exactly.... why not just move on when it does not work out or isnt what you had hoped. why is there this need to get so... riled up that you must journal up a storm on the event... especially when you barely knew them in the first place! i think anyone can achieve a positive relationship. instead of calling someone out in a chatroom as fake...or name calling... just sit back and really think... how appealing does that make you to anyone else? it doesnt.

and thank you for the compliment.



LadyPact -> RE: To scream or not to scream: Fake! that is... (9/2/2010 10:35:50 AM)

One quick off topic bit first.  I don't wish to be rude, but you look exceptionally familiar to Me.  I think I know where we've met.  Then again, I don't want to make an ass out of Myself for being wrong.  LOL.

On the subject of fakes, I think it's one of those things that really does happen, yet not nearly as often as people want to throw about.  Around CM, we really do have those occasions where people try to feed some load of bullshit about who they are or what experiences they have.  Either their lies are their own undoing or somebody comes along and exposes the truth.  There are men who pose as women here and there are people who want to tell the tale of their 20 years of experience in authority dynamics who are really twenty-five years old and have never been with a submissive.  Yes, that's fake.

People tend to broaden the term to match any situation where they run across someone who isn't compatible with them (or maybe they weren't such a hot catch to begin with) so the fall back is to play the fake card.  It is, absolutely, one of the best ways that someone can find to show their negative outlook.



D0M1NANT -> RE: To scream or not to scream: Fake! that is... (9/2/2010 10:38:00 AM)

I do agree that way too many drop the fake card for way too childish reasons.. My definition of fake is one who doesn't know even the most basic of rules but claims to have been in the lifestyle for years and years, or *gasp in horror* raised in the lifestyle.. Or the one who tells a sub they are the only one for them and turn around creating 2,3, sometimes as many as 16 profiles all with subs they are telling the same thing to.. I think way too many are enamored of the mental image they have of the lifestyle and try to move too fast, then drop the fake card when it turns out they were wrong. Trust is something that has to be built. Respect is something that must be EARNED. It is not given at the first meeting, and I point that out to any who approach Me.



Whiplashsmile4 -> RE: To scream or not to scream: Fake! that is... (9/2/2010 10:40:20 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: GreedyTop
I have never encountered a "fake".. just, rarely, someone who wasnt right FOR ME.

Ohhh.. come on now. :-P Never, not even once have you encountered a true fake. :^)



sothernnyte -> RE: To scream or not to scream: Fake! that is... (9/2/2010 10:40:50 AM)

Lady Pact.... i think we have talked via the forums before.. although i could be wrong. face to face meeting... im not sure,... perhaps an email to clarify the matter?

and why lie... i mean really.... if one is to go about this life in reality, that lie will make itself obvious.

i agree... fake as in fake pics, fake experience, fake fake fake
but someone just didnt click or work out for other reasons...that doesnt warrant the FAKE stamp in my book.



mnottertail -> RE: To scream or not to scream: Fake! that is... (9/2/2010 10:41:29 AM)

yeah, something not quite right about that, it smacks of fake.



sothernnyte -> RE: To scream or not to scream: Fake! that is... (9/2/2010 10:43:14 AM)

Amen D0M1NANT



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