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RE: Topping A Straight Sub - 9/5/2010 2:28:00 PM

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What that had done was made me question my status as a submissive, because I did not...submit. But I know much more about the nature of a submissive to know it does not mean anywhere/anyone/anytime, it pretty much states the opposite of that.

I submit to one, I'm not submissive to anyone else. Dominants who don't understand the word no get told "And you aren't that one"!

Good luck finding someone more honest and trustworthy. Because someone who tells you his ambition is to break a hard limit is not someone worthy of trust.

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RE: Topping A Straight Sub - 9/5/2010 2:39:57 PM

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This is question for all the male dominants who identify as straight.

I am a straight male submissive who has shown interest in submitting to a switch couple, the female was a switch and the male was not he was pure dominant.

Now in my discussions with them the male gave me inklings towards me serving him in a sexual way even though I made perfectly clear that I was straight. He also made it clear he was straight to, but went on to talk about it differently.

He talked about it as if it was simply a mechanical, primal need to show dominance over me by making me serve him sexually. I made it clear that I was not at that level of comfortability with men to just let them do that, he made it clear that over time he would disabuse my beliefs. At that point I wished him luck and no harsh feelings but it still made me wonder, was he just in denial about his nature or was there something to what he was saying?

So my question isn't a question it's more of a statement, i'm asking what do you say about this? Any thoughts on something like this? Am I wrong to be wary of an attitude like this or is it common place.

I understand i'm everywhere with this but i'm just unsure of things.

It sounds to me like He's bi and gets off on trying to get otherwise straight males to have sex with him but in my opinion you wouldn't be straight if you had a dick in your mouth so the only thing I can see both of you getting out of this would be the mindfuck for the two of you. All of the straight men including myself wouldn't even consider this...on either side.

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RE: Topping A Straight Sub - 9/5/2010 2:43:13 PM

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I submit to one, I'm not submissive to anyone else. Dominants who don't understand the word no get told "And you aren't that one"!

There was a cool series based on "The One"..

It was called The Highlander..They gained power battling their foes and taking their heads...in the end there can be only one!

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RE: Topping A Straight Sub - 9/5/2010 4:56:08 PM

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In this doms defense there seem to be an awful lot of "straight" male subs out there who really want to be "forced" to do such things "against their will". So I can understand a certain amount of misunderstanding on the doms part when a male sub was interested in submitting to him. After all in that situation how could straight possibly mean straight.

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RE: Topping A Straight Sub - 9/5/2010 5:18:03 PM

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Having you give him oral sex is sexual, no two ways about it. As far as him saying he's still totally straight? Poppycock! If he really was straight then male on male sex would make him uncomfortable. He's bi but doesn't feel comfortable admitting that. So he dresses it up by claiming it's just a dominance display. He could display dominance over you by demanding you clean the floor with a toothbrush. He doesn't have to have sex with you to be dominant.

You know who you are and what does and doesn't work for you, pity he can't admit the same.

Then the dominant would not be opposed to other sexual acts by a man.
My Sir stops at humiliating the sub male by having him suck his cock. And you know him to claim he is lying that he is not straight?

@DesFIP: you said: As far as him saying he's still totally straight? Poppycock! If he really was straight then male on male sex would make him uncomfortable.

This sounds like a gross generalization.

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RE: Topping A Straight Sub - 9/5/2010 5:31:19 PM

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I agree with the above poster.

I guess this depends on your definition of straight...

And remember some people who are homosexual get married to straight individuals and live with them for years.

Having sex with someone you're not supposed to be attracted isn't really impossible.

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RE: Topping A Straight Sub - 9/5/2010 6:12:48 PM

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This sounds like a gross generalization.

Sounds like you want to "generalize" the word straight. Where is the line? Next he'll be having anal intercourse and going down himself and of course he'll still be straight.

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RE: Topping A Straight Sub - 9/5/2010 7:44:48 PM

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I submit to one, I'm not submissive to anyone else. Dominants who don't understand the word no get told "And you aren't that one"!

There was a cool series based on "The One"..

It was called The Highlander..They gained power battling their foes and taking their heads...in the end there can be only one!

that was such a cool show...one of my faves as a teenybopper (McCloud was soooo hot!!!). all the screaming was a bit much tho.

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RE: Topping A Straight Sub - 9/5/2010 8:01:42 PM

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that was such a cool show

It was, wasn't it. I watched something called Highlander the source today..Didn't know there was such a thing on. I only saw the last part of it. I'll be looking for it next week.

Good to see you again, prop.

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RE: Topping A Straight Sub - 9/5/2010 8:04:41 PM

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you too, Sir.

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RE: Topping A Straight Sub - 9/5/2010 8:26:55 PM

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I believe you have every right to be wary, if a situation sounds like it's going to be one where your limits are going to be pushed, or attempted to push, in ways you've already said no to.

I remember one dom I was going to meet, said he required to tie up my bf and butt rape him after he dominated me, and I said no, my bf isn't a part of our play scene, and is not a consenting player in this game, and he said well I say he is. And I just said forget it, we're not playing.

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Am I wrong to be wary of an attitude like this or is it common place.

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RE: Topping A Straight Sub - 9/5/2010 8:29:12 PM

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...he said well I say he is.

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RE: Topping A Straight Sub - 9/5/2010 8:40:51 PM

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Except when it would involve a non consenting third party.

I used to hate when my x dom, would tell me " cause I said so" I'd just want so bad to say "whyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy do you say so"?

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...he said well I say he is.

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RE: Topping A Straight Sub - 9/5/2010 8:49:32 PM

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Now when I post (rarely) a thread like this I really am not looking for validation of my feelings, but it is great when it happens.

He raised too many red flags with me as far as that went. In the end he got a bit aggressive and asked how I think things would happen, I didn't answer him as I didn't wish to prolong the situation. With time, the right domme, trust, and a relationship I can be cajoled to try many things, but right off the bat with someone I just met who is already not inspiring any feelings of comfort, it ain't gonna happen.

Thank you all for your opinions, they matter greatly to me as you're all so much more knowledgeable than I am.

PS: What I didn't get about highlander, why didn't ramirez as a highlander just kill connor and the kurgen as soon as he could? He had so many missed opportunities and he just didn't...oh i'm a huge nerd...

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