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ShoreBound149 -> Active participation in local politics (9/5/2010 1:01:32 PM)

I am in awe of the passion of the contibutors to the political threads.  The depth of knowledge they have on a wide variety of topics and the intensity with which they defend their positions is admirable.

I do not possess anywhere near this level of commitment to politics. I therefore do not particpate in local politics in any way other than trying to make informed decisions on election days.

It would seem a waste to me if this was the sole outlet for the posters here to express their political viewpoints.

The question:  Does anyone here try to make a difference in the actual real life political system?  If so, in what way?




Aileen1968 -> RE: Active participation in local politics (9/5/2010 1:17:51 PM)

So I don't have to call you Mayor???




pahunkboy -> RE: Active participation in local politics (9/5/2010 1:42:24 PM)

I periodically do get into local politics.


I also talk to my neighbors.




chiaThePet -> RE: Active participation in local politics (9/5/2010 1:43:03 PM)


I find that Assassination can, and does have a much desired roll in local politics.

Oh wait.

That would be a typical morning routine with Alieen, no?

My bad.

chia* (the pet)




willbeurdaddy -> RE: Active participation in local politics (9/5/2010 2:06:59 PM)

I hand out Stop Harry Reid stickers whenever Im in Vegas.

And oh yeah...I was on the board of my local GOP organization until I relocated....but thats not as important as contributing to Reid's political demise.




DomKen -> RE: Active participation in local politics (9/5/2010 2:47:17 PM)

I've volunteered for numerous political campaigns over the years and work as a poll watcher every general election. I've been a paid DB Admin for a couple of aldermanic campaigns.




TheHeretic -> RE: Active participation in local politics (9/5/2010 2:53:44 PM)

I'm involved in local campaigns regularly. I have at least met all but one of my local officials, and a couple of them have bought me lunch. My Rep. in the House has one of the way-too-many "safe" seats, I'm not worrying about him.




AnimusRex -> RE: Active participation in local politics (9/5/2010 3:28:45 PM)

I am working on the campaign for a California Assemblyman; I walk precincts, do phone banking, etc. I also have monthly contributions from my bank account sent to Barbara Boxer and Jerry Brown.

And I drive through the parking lots of Talibangelical megachurches and place "Marriage Equality" stickers on their cars; but really, thats just for fun so it may not count.




truckinslave -> RE: Active participation in local politics (9/5/2010 4:21:20 PM)

quote:

And I drive through the parking lots of Talibangelical megachurches and place "Marriage Equality" stickers on their cars


They don't have security cameras?




popeye1250 -> RE: Active participation in local politics (9/5/2010 5:01:10 PM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: AnimusRex

I am working on the campaign for a California Assemblyman; I walk precincts, do phone banking, etc. I also have monthly contributions from my bank account sent to Barbara Boxer and Jerry Brown.

And I drive through the parking lots of Talibangelical megachurches and place "Marriage Equality" stickers on their cars; but really, thats just for fun so it may not count.



Rex, do you have a ponytail?




alwayssummer -> RE: Active participation in local politics (9/5/2010 5:56:29 PM)

 
I donated to Bill Halter because I wanted a Democrat  instead of Blanche Lincoln in Arkansas.  Forcing the run off  put pressure on her, she came up with the derivatives   amendment which Dodd couldn't shake until she won her primary, & some of it got in the final bill.  So that was somewhat productive.  Halter also could have won if they hadn't closed 20 of 22 polling places in his strongest district.  Too bad because he actually had a chance to win the general election; Lincoln is easily defeated by the Repug candidate.

I send money to candidates whose voting records I admire.  Specifically Barbara Boxer and Russ Feingold.  In the last ten years, both have been remarkably insightful, nearly prophetic in key votes:

Of all the senators up for reelection, only Feingold and Boxer both voted against the Repeal of Glass Steagall and against the Iraq War Resolution.  Repealing Glass Steagall is probably the legislative action most responsible for our current financial collapse.  The Iraq War ...3 trillion and climbing if you consider the monetary waste alone...according to Nobel Prize Economist's article in the WaPo today.
 
I want Brown to win against Meg Whitman, so I contribute to him.. for reasons too numerous to list. 

I also detest my Congressman,. Brian Billbray, former oil lobbyist, so I've worked for his opponent.  It's her third try, she means well but has zero charisma, so that's probably fruitless.

I've  contributed to the legalizing pot initiative -not because I smoke it (never liked it) but because I'd like those billions not spent on arresting, prosecuting, incarcerating its users and welcome the tax revenues legalization  would bring our state.  I'm also realizing that by keeping it illegal, it keeps the violent Mexican drugs cartels richly funded.  I've sent those donations via Firedoglake.

It occurs to me that supporting the legalization of marijuana might have an ancillary benefit for getting the disenchanted/apathetic liberals, independents and youth to the poles. It's pretty well known that the voters who pushed Bush over the top in 2004 were those who showed up  mainly to vote against gay marriage and, once there, voted for him in 2004.  So hopefully encouraging turnout for legalizing pot will get  proportionally more pro Brown & Boxer voters...and they'll vote against the Oil Company Prop too while they're in the booth.






TheHeretic -> RE: Active participation in local politics (9/5/2010 7:22:52 PM)

Let's keep an accurate perspective on those turnout coattails, Always. It was the high black turnout for Pres. Obama that put Proposition 8 over the top to end gay marriage in CA.

And never count on the stoners to actually show up and vote.




servantforuse -> RE: Active participation in local politics (9/5/2010 7:52:09 PM)

I have always been involved in local plotics. It is way more important than national politics.




thishereboi -> RE: Active participation in local politics (9/6/2010 4:35:33 AM)

quote:

And I drive through the parking lots of Talibangelical megachurches and place "Marriage Equality" stickers on their cars; but really, thats just for fun so it may not count.


I was trying to think of how this could be fun, and then I pictured you kneeling at the rear of my car scraping shit off the bumper and I see it now. Yea, that could turn out to be fun.[8|]




ShoreBound149 -> RE: Active participation in local politics (9/6/2010 4:49:42 AM)

Obviously no one is obligated to cite their contributions to the political process in their area here, but this is a very small sample of P&R posters who are polically active in the "real" world.

I believe that apathy by competent people ( myself included) is the biggest contributor to the results we get from our government.  The few town council meetings I have been to seemed to be more of a circus led by a powerful few with their own agenda as politicians versus public servants.

For those of you who seem so well read and opinionated, what is it that keeps you from channeling your efforts away from here and into your local political process?




ShoreBound149 -> RE: Active participation in local politics (9/6/2010 4:53:21 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: chiaThePet


I find that Assassination can, and does have a much desired roll in local politics.

Oh wait.

That would be a typical morning routine with Alieen, no?

My bad.

chia* (the pet)



You, Mr. Pet, are no longer allowed to take extended time off from the boards.  If you need to take any time off in the future, for any reason, you need to submit a request to me in writing for approval.

I have spoken.




chiaThePet -> RE: Active participation in local politics (9/6/2010 9:04:23 AM)

quote:

ORIGINAL: ShoreBound149

You, Mr. Pet, are no longer allowed to take extended time off from the boards.  If you need to take any time off in the future, for any reason, you need to submit a request to me in writing for approval.

I have spoken.


I think I'm wet.

Oh wait......

TURN THAT DAMN THING OFF!

Sorry, just my neighbor Marge watering those fucking gladiolus.

My bad.

chia* (the pet)




DomKen -> RE: Active participation in local politics (9/6/2010 9:28:30 AM)


quote:

ORIGINAL: ShoreBound149

Obviously no one is obligated to cite their contributions to the political process in their area here, but this is a very small sample of P&R posters who are polically active in the "real" world.

I believe that apathy by competent people ( myself included) is the biggest contributor to the results we get from our government.  The few town council meetings I have been to seemed to be more of a circus led by a powerful few with their own agenda as politicians versus public servants.
For those of you who seem so well read and opinionated, what is it that keeps you from channeling your efforts away from here and into your local political process?


I bolded the above because changing that is why I got involved in politics. There are politicians who are really out to be good public servants and I work hard to get as many elected as possible.




juliaoceania -> RE: Active participation in local politics (9/6/2010 10:41:36 AM)

quote:

Does anyone here try to make a difference in the actual real life political system?  If so, in what way?


I used to belong to activist groups. My ways of making a difference have changed. I was considering getting back involved with the movement to change the constitution in ways that would prohibit corporations from buying our political system.

My knowledge about politics and history has been furthered by the research I do in other places. One needs to understand all facets of a society before they can understand its people and culture.




StrangerThan -> RE: Active participation in local politics (9/6/2010 12:21:36 PM)

My first foray into the political arena was with a local chapter of the Democratic party. I moved away from that after a while because at the time, I worked for a government entity under a Democratic administration and saw wide-spread corruption. I literally have seen department heads manually manipulate reports to hide tax dollars and been instructed along with others to obstruct investigations. At the time it was both an ethical and economic issue for me given that local employment opportunities basically fell to three different employers if you wanted to make a decent salary. I suppose salary is always important, but for me, I was putting a daughter and an ex-wife through college. Again, I suppose you could argue that I didn't have to do either of those things, but the first I felt and still feel it was my duty to do. The second basically boiled down to the fact that I could provide a better life for my other daughter if her mother succeeded. So I helped her in every way I could. For my own employment, I in essence, did what I was told to do and hated every minute of it until I was able to leave. 

That drove me away from the democratic party. It didn't drive me to the republicans. Bush came along shortly after that time period and put that nail in the coffin. I changed my party affiliation from Democrat to Independent about then. Somewhere in there my involvement changed from local parties to what might be best described as local movements. There was a radio show in the town where I lived hosted by a constitutionalist who refused to take either side and argued mainly for common sense in politics and against things he saw as unconstitutional. I became a frequent debater on his show, dealing with every type from the bubba next door to libertarians to people from both Republican and Democratic parties to ex-intelligence agents. Note I wasn't part of his show, but was one who debated on air positions mostly held by right-wing commentators or right-wing callers.

Over the next couple of years a group formed from that show that began taking issue with local and state politics where corruption was evident and where legislation  was being pushed through without either due process or just was fucked up from its inception. The group was local, but the effort spread. Instead of forming committees and doing things the "right" way, we basically used the Tennessee tax revolt as a model. There's a group by that name - Tennessee tax revolt, but the the in this case pointed to the massing of thousands people at the Tennessee state capitol a few years ago in response to a vote on a state income tax. The massive flood of people scared legislators to the point that some had to be removed in ambulances.

It seemed a good way of showing that we the people part of government. This was in North Carolina by the way. In the four years I was involved, the movement was instrumental in instigating an investigation that led to imprisonment for the state speaker of the house, stopping legislation in its tracks by exposing law makers on air and doing it statewide, (One of those was to provide state funds for children of illegal immigrants to attend state college.), investigations into the manner in which the state lottery was implemented. It wasn't that we didn't like the lottery. What we didn't like was the way the vote was done, which was politics at its finest where one side sort of passed the word to its folks to hang around once recess started, then the speaker called something like an emergency session, held the vote then disbanded. On top of all that, nepotism was ripe. You'd have family members hired in at high paying jobs for the lottery wherein they had little to no experience for the job they were hired to do.

So we were sort of a tea party before there was a tea party. The membership was composed of both Democrats and Republicans though honestly, of the two parties, Republicans probably dominated. Overall, independents dominated. The focus was not towards or against either party but for more responsible, more transparent government and towards removing the strangle hold on politics that both of those parties held in NC. The same host would bring on anyone involved in a political race whether they be party favorite or Joe down the street - something that was much to the chagrin of the established parties.

I moved away a few years ago and have not kept up with them. Any efforts I make now though are in the same vein. I'm not taking sides and mostly call into local radio shows or work local message boards. Usually when I do its in response to these over the top comments or topics. Things like a local guy took a rant from some big time pundit over something Charlie Rangle had said about people joining the military, that they weren't bright. The quote was out of context, and no where near the slight the host was making it out to be, so we talked. My position is rarely one where the feeling of being slighted is wrong, but rather the light in which it is portrayed is wrong. It's not my place to judge feelings. I can however, judge the spin being put on it.

The good thing about local shows is the kill switch isn't something they like to employ unless you're just an absolute idiot. I tried listening to the big time right wing and left wing shows but honestly couldn't stomach the twisted bs that came from either.

We do have a local tea party chapter, but not joining them either. I like the concept of what they're doing, but I honestly think the effort is going to result in clearer and harder lines drawn between left and right. Given the way people lump up on one side or the other these days with no intention of taking their own politicians to task, I may end up joining them if for no other reason than I'm sick and tired of not having something I want to vote for, rather than simply voting against something or someone else.

Shrug.





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