TREASON DESTROYING THE US ECONOMY

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defiantbadgirl -> TREASON DESTROYING THE US ECONOMY (9/6/2010 7:56:59 PM)
The United States became strong by standing on our own and manufacturing our own goods. Since we joined the global economy, we have grown weaker every day. Companies have been allowed to hire illegal immigrants while the government looks the other way. Greedy corporations have been allowed to lay off American workers and outsource the jobs overseas. The US doesn't need to create new jobs to compete in the global economy. We need to end all free trade agreements and get out of the global economy. Instead of giving tax breaks to corporatons that are outsourcing our jobs and hiring illegal immigrants, we need to be charging them with treason. There's a word for committing acts against ones own country that lead to its destruction. That word is TREASON. Just calling it like I see it.

willbeurdaddy -> RE: TREASON DESTROYING THE US ECONOMY (9/6/2010 7:58:34 PM)
Siggghhhhh. another one who doesnt understand that you cant improve the standard of living by overpaying for goods, wherever they come from.

defiantbadgirl -> RE: TREASON DESTROYING THE US ECONOMY (9/6/2010 8:12:20 PM)
So everyone should just lower their prices to the equivilent of third world countries? That might work if everyone was willing to do that. But they're not. While products made in foreign countries might be less expensive than products made in the US, I don't see landlords lowering their rent to 5 cents a day or utility companes lowering their rates. With many jobs now (if you're lucky enough to be employed) paying barely above minimum wage, people can't afford to buy even cheap products made overseas because they're too busy trying to figure out how they're going to pay ther rent and utlities and feed their families.

Marini -> RE: TREASON DESTROYING THE US ECONOMY (9/6/2010 8:22:58 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl So everyone should just lower their prices to the equivilent of third world countries? That might work if everyone was willing to do that. But they're not. While products made in foreign countries might be less expensive than products made in the US, I don't see landlords lowering their rent to 5 cents a day or utility companes lowering their rates. With many jobs now (if you're lucky enough to be employed) paying barely above minimum wage, people can't afford to buy even cheap products made overseas because they're too busy trying to figure out how they're going to pay ther rent and utlities and feed their families. dfg! Are you saying you are not willing to work for $4 a day so you can compete with the workers in China? Next you will be saying you don't want to live in the factories as many do in 3rd world countries!! [8\|] Look at how some of the workers in China live off the big money they make. http://gizmodo.com/5517137/microsoft-supplier-factory-workers-live-like-prisoners http://izismile.com/2010/04/19/slaves_at_chinese_factory_that_produces_for_microsoft.html http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/asia/concern-over-human-cost-overshadows-ipad-launch-1983888.html http://www.internationalnetworknews.com/2010/08/10/600000-workers-drop-dead-every-year-from-overwork-in-china%E2%80%99s-factories/ http://extras.sltrib.com/china/printstory1.htm I can see the need for a limited "global economy", but the policies and the practices were unbridled for far too long. I feel like this country has been asleep for almost 30 years, and now we are waking up. At the end of the day, corporations and most companies don't give a damn about their workers, and all most care about is the bottom line. Many people are finally starting to learn this, the hard way. Do you see any companies willing to come back to America, and cut their profit margin to employ Americans? Even if they still make a considerable profit, are any doing that? No, because at the end of the day, most companies don't give a shit about American workers. Look at the marvelous conditions they have created for their workers in China.

defiantbadgirl -> RE: TREASON DESTROYING THE US ECONOMY (9/6/2010 8:33:33 PM)
Putting the bottom line above ones own country and deliberately destroying it is treason.

DarkSteven -> RE: TREASON DESTROYING THE US ECONOMY (9/6/2010 8:47:14 PM)
quote: ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl The United States became strong by standing on our own and manufacturing our own goods. And by sending goods overseas in a strong postwar economy where we were the only country capable of serious production. Since we joined the global economy, we have grown weaker every day. Um, no. We have been supplying the rest of the world after WWII, and it strengthened us. We have been buying from other countries for a while - is that what you mean by "joining the global economy"? Companies have been allowed to hire illegal immigrants while the government looks the other way. Actually there have been raids on meat packing plants. Greedy corporations have been allowed to lay off American workers and outsource the jobs overseas. Correct. I'm not happy about it, but don't know what can or should be done to stop this. The US doesn't need to create new jobs to compete in the global economy. We need to end all free trade agreements and get out of the global economy. Wow. So we will buy only from US sources, and neither import, nor export? The first thing that comes to mind is that we will die without foreign oil. The second is that snuggling will be very big. The prices of domestic goods will skyrocket. I'd expect riots. Instead of giving tax breaks to corporatons that are outsourcing our jobs and hiring illegal immigrants, we need to be charging them with treason. Wait a sec. Outsourcing jobs is an issue. Hiring illegals is against the law. But I agree that tax breaks should be ended for corporations - it's not producing desired behaviors. There's a word for committing acts against ones own country that lead to its destruction. That word is TREASON. Just calling it like I see it. Oh, God, no. Treason is supplying an enemy nation with information that weakens the country. Simply using it to define any act that in your eyes weakens the country is dangerous. Next thing you know, collarme and porn sites will be outlawed!

thornhappy -> RE: TREASON DESTROYING THE US ECONOMY (9/6/2010 9:16:55 PM)
It's been going on for decades. Why the squawking now? quote: ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl Putting the bottom line above ones own country and deliberately destroying it is treason.

Fellow -> RE: TREASON DESTROYING THE US ECONOMY (9/6/2010 9:58:35 PM)
I do agree: shipping jobs overseas and lying about the consequences equals treason. The economists and commentators have warned about negative effects (like we see today) for decades. Many books have been written about it. The legend of "free trade" continues. What to do about it? It is impossible to prosecute anybody who made the decisions. The USA is not a democracy any more, it is corporatocracy. The elites decide who is getting the juice, who is not. Sorry, not much is left over for poor any more. Individuals just need to adapt and use their brains to survive somehow. PS. WTO gets nervous that countries may start looking at things differently: http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/A/AS_WTO_LAMY?SITE=NVLAS&SECTION=HOME&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

taleon -> RE: TREASON DESTROYING THE US ECONOMY (9/7/2010 2:37:40 AM)
quote: ORIGINAL: defiantbadgirl There's a word for committing acts against ones own country that lead to its destruction. That word is TREASON. Just calling it like I see it. So, is buying a Japanese car treason? Or French wine? If you are not spending your dollars on an American product, surely you are endangering the US economy and putting American jobs on the line! Where is this going to end, I ask you?

THELADY -> RE: TREASON DESTROYING THE US ECONOMY (9/7/2010 5:31:03 AM)
wealth distribution its not bussinesses its our government. the progressives believe america is greedy and the main cause of the destruction of the world. according to Obama's science czar I think his name is holdern, we need to de-industerlaize america, other countries should get a piece of the pie. ETA: before anyone jumps, I don't believe this comes from just obama and his crew, I believe bush was a progressive, as well as clinton.

popeye1250 -> RE: TREASON DESTROYING THE US ECONOMY (9/7/2010 9:27:00 AM)
quote: Oh, God, no. Treason is supplying an enemy nation with information that weakens the country. Simply using it to define any act that in your eyes weakens the country is dangerous. Next thing you know, collarme and porn sites will be outlawed! Steven, you mean like Bernard Schwartz( "Friend of Bill") and his co. the Loral Corp. giving launch technology to China in the 1990's?

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