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popeye1250 -> RE: Detroit is ablaze!!! (9/8/2010 1:56:11 PM)


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ORIGINAL: BoiJen

Of the 85 fires, the fire department only suspects that 2 of them could be arson related. The rest are being attributed to dry, windy conditions...kinda like California.

boi




Wow, 85 fires!
Well, it's obvious that because of much less tax revenue in the last twenty years that tree-trimming was way down on the list of things that Detroit could do and it finally caught up with them.
The Fire Dept has been cut way back further than it should have been to balance the budget.




AlwaysLisa -> RE: Detroit is ablaze!!! (9/8/2010 2:12:32 PM)

http://www.thecomingdepression.net/main-street/real-estate/detroits-mayor-wants-to-shrink-the-city/


I remember watching a report on 20/20, on just this matter.   The Mayor flew over in a helicopter and showed us all the abandoned homes, claiming they needed to "shut down" a portion of the city so the remaining could flourish.   Maybe this is part of that plan?    





Vendaval -> RE: Detroit is ablaze!!! (9/8/2010 3:36:30 PM)

Stay safe out there.




TheHeretic -> RE: Detroit is ablaze!!! (9/8/2010 7:18:21 PM)


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ORIGINAL: popeye1250
Ok, who wants to explain it to the Beaver?




Well, you see, Beav, there are things called jobs. People get paid money to do things. If they have a good job (one that pays lots of money, and gives you time to enjoy it), they will do things like buy houses, and plant trees in the yard. They pay local property taxes on those homes to pay for schools, and paved roads and emergency services.

Once upon a time, Detroit was a city with a lot of good jobs. Then something happened. Popeye proposes that globalized trade agreements are largely responsible for this. I don't share his view, tending to the belief that a culture of rot set into the auto industry.

Whichever or whatever, the community started spiralling down. The jobs left. Trees went untrimmed in the yards of homes where the people gave up and left. Fewer people paying taxes meant fewer fire trucks, and fewer city crews out trimming limbs. It also meant fewer people buying electricity, which probably meant fewer company crews keeping limbs away from the lines. A fallen limb causing a fire happens all the time. (Hell, we had a fire here in CA, where a bobcat electrocuted himself on a power line and started a fire where he landed.) A firestorm sweeping through a city is not the automatic result. This was a tragedy caused by economic devastation.

Popeye believes that was caused by the transition to a global economy.

Clear as mud?




rulemylife -> RE: Detroit is ablaze!!! (9/8/2010 10:28:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: popeye1250

Wow, 85 fires!
Well, it's obvious that because of much less tax revenue in the last twenty years that tree-trimming was way down on the list of things that Detroit could do and it finally caught up with them.
The Fire Dept has been cut way back further than it should have been to balance the budget.


Wow!

Someone that doesn't have the sense to realize tree-trimming around power lines is not the responsibility of the city.

Detroit Edison Announces Tree-Trimming Schedule - Electric Energy ...Aug 5, 2010 ... Detroit Edison Announces Tree-Trimming Schedule - Detroit Edison line-clearance crews will be working in 47 Southeastern Michigan ...


And how far back has that fire department budget been cut Popeye?

Can you give us some facts, statistics, anything to support what you say?


SPECIAL REPORT: Statewide voters overwhelmingly pass tax leviesAug 12, 2010 ... They also opened their wallets for fire and police departments, .... The residents of Detroit passed every tax increase that came along! ...




Moonhead -> RE: Detroit is ablaze!!! (9/9/2010 5:06:45 AM)

I'm sure popeye's right: it has to be Obama's fault, after all, just like the floods in Pakistan and that mine in Chile that's caved in...




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