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RE: What's wrong with the Senate? - 9/17/2010 12:44:06 AM   
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At last count there are 102 empty federal judgeships (with around 40 appointees waiting for hearings).
I can't find the number of US embassies without Ambassadors but it is significant from the last report I heard.
Numerous sub cabinent positions requiring Senate approval also remain unfilled.

The problem is not just cloture but the anonymous hold and the requirment for unanimous consent to move even the most routine business forward. The Senate needs to give up or down votes to all appointees in a reasonable time frame.

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RE: What's wrong with the Senate? - 9/17/2010 6:17:46 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

At last count there are 102 empty federal judgeships (with around 40 appointees waiting for hearings).
I can't find the number of US embassies without Ambassadors but it is significant from the last report I heard.
Numerous sub cabinent positions requiring Senate approval also remain unfilled.

The problem is not just cloture but the anonymous hold and the requirment for unanimous consent to move even the most routine business forward. The Senate needs to give up or down votes to all appointees in a reasonable time frame.


You never complained when a Republican President had the same problem.

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RE: What's wrong with the Senate? - 9/17/2010 6:33:12 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: FirmhandKY

quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

At last count there are 102 empty federal judgeships (with around 40 appointees waiting for hearings).
I can't find the number of US embassies without Ambassadors but it is significant from the last report I heard.
Numerous sub cabinent positions requiring Senate approval also remain unfilled.

The problem is not just cloture but the anonymous hold and the requirment for unanimous consent to move even the most routine business forward. The Senate needs to give up or down votes to all appointees in a reasonable time frame.


You never complained when a Republican President had the same problem.

Firm


Want to bet?


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RE: What's wrong with the Senate? - 9/17/2010 9:09:19 AM   
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I did read the article.

I would have to put myself in the camp that favors as much obstructionism as possible.  I would like to make it nearly impossible to pass any new laws.  I think that there are far too many of them as it is. 

Perhaps we should adopt some of Prof. Bernard de la Paz's suggestions from The Moon is a Harsh Mistress:
 
Suppose instead of election a man were qualified for office by petition signed by four thousand citizens. He would then represent those four thousand affirmatively, with no disgruntled minority, for what would have been a minority in a territorial constituency would all be free to start other petitions or join in them. All would then be represented by men of their choice. Or a man with eight thousand supporters might have two votes in this body. Difficulties, objections, practical points to be worked out — many of them! But you could work them out. . . and thereby avoid the chronic sickness of representative government, the disgruntled minority which feels — correctly! — that it has been disenfranchised.

I note one proposal to make this Congress a two-house body. Excellent — the more impediments to legislation the better. But, instead of following tradition, I suggest one house of legislators, another whose single duty is to repeal laws. Let the legislators pass laws only with a two-thirds majority... while the repealers are able to cancel any law through a mere one-third minority. Preposterous? Think about it. If a bill is so poor that it cannot command two-thirds of your consents, is it not likely that it would make a poor law? And if a law is disliked by as many as one-third is it not likely that you would be better off without it?

In writing your constitution let me invite attention to the wonderful virtue of the negative! Accentuate the negative! Let your document be studded with things the government is forever forbidden to do. No conscript armies... no interference however slight with freedom of press, or speech, or travel, or assembly, or of religion, or of instruction, or communication, or occupation... no involuntary taxation.

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RE: What's wrong with the Senate? - 9/17/2010 9:20:21 AM   
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I occasionally call myself a "rational anarchist" for the same reason.

de le Paz ... gotta love em!

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RE: What's wrong with the Senate? - 9/17/2010 9:31:46 AM   
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I really like the suggestion of a body that does nothing but repels laws.  In many ways I think that we have just gotten ridiculous with all of the regulations that we are supposed to be following.  It is more of a hindrance than a help in life no matter how good intentioned. 

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RE: What's wrong with the Senate? - 9/17/2010 9:33:11 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: DomKen

Want to bet?


So show me. 

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