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pahunkboy -> Did you pay online sales tax? Wow. (9/17/2010 11:34:44 AM)

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Termyn8or -> RE: Did you pay online sales tax? Wow. (9/17/2010 4:32:48 PM)

That's fine. In time there will be no online sales, in fact there will be no sales at all, so what's the beef ?

Problem for most people is that they file state income tax in the first place. The trick is to NEVER file. Remember, the deadline only applies if you owe them, so make a resolution to get caught up when you'e 90 years old. Really promise now.

Got a bitch exwife and don't want to see her get a dime, give up that refund check. Most state laws mimic federal. Many people have a good reason for doing this. Contractors and subcontractors who work in many different suburbs for one. Here, they want you to figure out the portions owed to each municipality. The cure is simple. The state gets the list from the feds, the city gets the list from the state.

And last but not least, if we had one shred of solidarity, we could beat it in a heartbeat anyway. On the box your new microwave oven came in there was a warning years ago of big fines for not registering the product with the federal government. There was absolutely zero compliance. The law might remain on the books, but they just gave up. Those first few years millions of microwave ovens were sold, and I'd bet about twenty people in the whole country complied.

And if we had any balls at all, this would go the same way. Sure there are many remedies and challenges within the system. First of all in this state you are empowered and required to collect and forward sales tax when you get a vendor's license. You don't have a vendor's license in your state do you ? Well neither does an out of state seller. For years mail order catalogues would say [insert state] residents add X% sales tax. That is within their power. This is not.

But I like the zero compliance approach much better. It worked wonders for the microwave registration issue, and think of it, now you are fucking with a state, not the feds, a much smaller bully.

Realistically I think this will just go away, a high percentage of noncompliance would do the trick. If everyone, say not even everyone, let's say a thousand people turned themselves in for noncompliance, refused to post bail and did something to put themselves in contempt of court, there would not be enough jails.

There is more than one way to skin a fatcat.

The solution to some of this mess is crystal clear, they are a gang, we need to become a gang. They keep us separated so that we never realize our true power. The answer is not on rense, nor in Project Freedom, or Joe Bannister's law school or anywhere else. It is in us.

And don't start with the operating in commerce bullshit doctrine either. If I drive to another state to buy something, my vehicle could be considered a commercail carrier. But there is no sales tax demanded by my state. Now the trend is to assert that the internet is a commercial carrier, by their own words.

I am fifty years old, I wonder if it too late for me to get a law degree. After a couple of years of what could possibly be a successful carreer I could afford statewide mass mailings and a crack at taking it to the state supreme court, in fact I could handle many of these ridiculously oppressive bullshit laws and with any luck, win.

Face it, most prosecutors are narrow minded fucks, while I can be ready to attack the issue ten different ways months before a hearing date is even set. Any bright young law student want to collaberate on something like this ? I've already talked to one pretty sharp lawyer and he is convinced my approach to the napster case would have a good chance of winning. Meantime I download any damn thing I please.

So many angles with which to beat this ridiculous tax, and it seems so simple. What empowers a state to charge sales tax in the first place ? What impels a company to charge sales tax when the goods are shipped to a location in the same state but not another ? What are we talking about ? Their authority, where it begins and where it ends. People are afraid to challenge that, and members of the bar association even moreso.

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