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RE: THe protestants and the catholics are still fightin... - 9/19/2010 11:06:05 AM   
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RE: THe protestants and the catholics are still fightin... - 9/19/2010 11:30:41 AM   
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No, you retard, violence is not due to a lack of positive thinking... if you were paying attention, I already said I reckon what is happening is the right way to go. Take your special needs elsewhere.



You are funny.  With that comment- maybe I should join them.   Those terrible 2nd class potato heads! 

Your inability to problem solve is emblematic of the whole NI question as it pertains to British rule.

I was not sure what to think of my friend Rorie's story on how Brits are rude to the Irish when over there.  But- I can see there is a disdain.  You blame all of the Irish for the % who fuel the IRA.

Whats more - A solution is inconvenient for you to even spend a few minutes on a post.   As- it were-  "special needs".   Maybe that is why the UK is a police state.  Because too many outsiders are undesirables who have "special needs. "

One day the shoe could be on the other foot- but that is ok-  just make it convenient.




Every single thing you just wrote is wrong. You even spelt Rory wrong.




Do the Irish have the same rights as a Brit?

Or would the class system, and title thing yous do- does this mean they are a lesser people?

You have titles there.  So- right there- that suggests that all men are not created equal.



Last time I checked, they had inherited wealth in your country as well.

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RE: THe protestants and the catholics are still fightin... - 9/19/2010 11:38:08 AM   
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Status: offline 		Northern Ireland. the troubles is a very complex situation very few including myself thoroughly understanding it all. For a starters you got religion, Christians fighting Christians and at one time due to a history programme I watched recently, the lowest denominator in Ireland, the target for everyone was the Jew, they got the shittiest end of the stick from all and that only as far back as the first twenty years of the twentieth century.

After religion, you got Irish/ British entanglements, but one thing I do know about the Irish, is that they are a fighting race, they fight for the hell of it, they call it fun. This was also the choice sport in my home city, Liverpool, the Scousers who were largely of Irish descent,( possibly Ireland is the origin of the Scouse accent ) also fought for the hell of it, they used to bash hell out of their friends and then shake hands at the end of it, as it was all fun, with no feelings bent out of shape, weird lot.

So, of all the differences I am aware of, any could be attached to anything as a reason to fight, for fighting many Irish like, a one time warrior race and pure Keltic, perhaps it is in their genes to fight.

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RE: THe protestants and the catholics are still fightin... - 9/19/2010 11:41:53 AM   
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Status: offline 		I'm not sure that arguing that the ignorant celts don't know any better and can't be trusted not to fight is much of a solution. That's often cited as an argument against home rule, isn't it?
(Or at least it was back in the 'fifties. I'd hoped things might have moved on a bit since then...)

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RE: THe protestants and the catholics are still fightin... - 9/19/2010 12:02:28 PM   
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RE: THe protestants and the catholics are still fightin... - 9/19/2010 12:05:35 PM   
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Status: offline 		Wales is not entirely welsh, they are heavily diluted with other Britons, plus being part of the mainland, their anger was quelled long ago.

but it is a Keltic thing to scrap.

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RE: THe protestants and the catholics are still fightin... - 9/19/2010 12:13:21 PM   
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Northern Ireland. the troubles is a very complex situation very few including myself thoroughly understanding it all. For a starters you got religion, Christians fighting Christians and at one time due to a history programme I watched recently, the lowest denominator in Ireland, the target for everyone was the Jew, they got the shittiest end of the stick from all and that only as far back as the first twenty years of the twentieth century.

After religion, you got Irish/ British entanglements, but one thing I do know about the Irish, is that they are a fighting race, they fight for the hell of it, they call it fun. This was also the choice sport in my home city, Liverpool, the Scousers who were largely of Irish descent,( possibly Ireland is the origin of the Scouse accent ) also fought for the hell of it, they used to bash hell out of their friends and then shake hands at the end of it, as it was all fun, with no feelings bent out of shape, weird lot.

So, of all the differences I am aware of, any could be attached to anything as a reason to fight, for fighting many Irish like, a one time warrior race and pure Keltic, perhaps it is in their genes to fight.



Good post.

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RE: THe protestants and the catholics are still fightin... - 9/19/2010 1:13:18 PM   
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If it was a celtic thing we'd be having more trouble off the Welsh, and they're harmless.




The Welsh are harmless? You've never met any Cardiff supporters, have you?

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RE: THe protestants and the catholics are still fightin... - 9/19/2010 1:23:14 PM   
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I said titles and class- not wealth.

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RE: THe protestants and the catholics are still fightin... - 9/19/2010 1:24:19 PM   
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Last time I checked, they had inherited wealth in your country as well./snip

I said titles and class- not wealth.


So there's no class system in America either?

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RE: THe protestants and the catholics are still fightin... - 9/19/2010 1:38:10 PM   
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Last time I checked, they had inherited wealth in your country as well./snip

I said titles and class- not wealth.


So there's no class system in America either?


No there isnt.

All men are created equal.

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RE: THe protestants and the catholics are still fightin... - 9/19/2010 1:40:54 PM   
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RE: THe protestants and the catholics are still fightin... - 9/19/2010 1:44:13 PM   
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one thing I do know about the Irish, is that they are a fighting race, they fight for the hell of it, they call it fun....

...So, of all the differences I am aware of, any could be attached to anything as a reason to fight, for fighting many Irish like, a one time warrior race and pure Keltic, perhaps it is in their genes to fight.


Hey, racial characteristics. Nice. Thoughtful.  Remind me, which bunch was it again with the watermelons?

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RE: THe protestants and the catholics are still fightin... - 9/19/2010 1:47:37 PM   
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Are you for real? Pull the other one, it's got bells on.



We in the US have a constitution.   There is no class system.

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RE: THe protestants and the catholics are still fightin... - 9/19/2010 2:01:15 PM   
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RE: THe protestants and the catholics are still fightin... - 9/19/2010 2:10:52 PM   
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Just making him squirm a bit :)


Making who squirm? I doubt anyone takes your posts that seriously.


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RE: THe protestants and the catholics are still fightin... - 9/19/2010 2:10:57 PM   
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Are you for real? Pull the other one, it's got bells on.



We in the US have a constitution.   There is no class system.


There's a very good impersonation of one, then. Do you seriously believe that all of these rich, influential political families you have don't constitute a defacto aristocracy? Are you seriously arguing that somebody born in a trailer park in Louisiana has the same opportunities George Bush's kids had?
As I said already: pull the other one, it's got bells on.

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RE: THe protestants and the catholics are still fightin... - 9/19/2010 2:21:31 PM   
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After religion, you got Irish/ British entanglements, but one thing I do know about the Irish, is that they are a fighting race, they fight for the hell of it, they call it fun.


That's a pretty big brush you are using to paint all Irishmen as violent. I wonder what your reaction would have been if someone had said the same thing about muslims?


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RE: THe protestants and the catholics are still fightin... - 9/19/2010 2:54:58 PM   
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ORIGINAL: Moonhead


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Are you for real? Pull the other one, it's got bells on.



We in the US have a constitution.   There is no class system.


There's a very good impersonation of one, then. Do you seriously believe that all of these rich, influential political families you have don't constitute a defacto aristocracy? Are you seriously arguing that somebody born in a trailer park in Louisiana has the same opportunities George Bush's kids had?
As I said already: pull the other one, it's got bells on.



I am saying that in America we have a constitution and that all men are created equal.

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RE: THe protestants and the catholics are still fightin... - 9/19/2010 2:57:56 PM   
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So- the country is not perfect.  But we broke from the Crown for a reason. 

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