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THE slave Transition ? Did You get what You deserved ? - 4/23/2006 1:13:25 PM   
Unameme


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Status: offline 		Greetings ,
im interested in hearing of submissive's who have taken / jumped / walked / crawled / from that of a submissive being who had experienced / lived  their submissive nature, 
Then making the transition to being an Owned slave ?
i read of Owners who care not for thier submissive's needs other than physical health, Has any slave gone into that type of servitude ?
 and did your Owner have any obligation for your concern if Owner no longer wanted you ?
Were you just kicked to the curb ? pennyless, homeless, ?
Is this a concern of other submissive's who think of taking,
in my mind a huge jump from submission into being a slave of an Owner...
Did you get what you deserved ?
i think that giving completely is the essence of a slave, emotionally , physically, financially,
But does a slave get to keep their, "Morals" ?
 Does a slave get to have thier own Spirituality, ?
Does a slave have the right to be protected from communicable disease"s ?
Some say a slave has no rights . period.
hmmmm would i give myself completely if i think my Owner doesn't or won't protect me No.
Does that mean im not a slave. ?
i would really like others views on this especially those with experience, for none but a slave who has made the transition and lived it can tell of the experience...
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RE: THE slave Transition ? Did You get what You deserved ? - 4/23/2006 1:34:36 PM   
Areflectionofyou


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Status: offline 		Ive never been worried that id be kicked to the curb in my slavitude. just as i take care of pleasing my owner , i trust in the fact he will never abuse the servitude i give him.

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RE: THE slave Transition ? Did You get what You deserved ? - 4/23/2006 1:50:57 PM   
LuckyAlbatross


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Unameme
i read of Owners who care not for thier submissive's needs other than physical health, Has any slave gone into that type of servitude ?

If you can imagine it, people out there are doing it, and very happy with it.  Yes, this does occur.
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and did your Owner have any obligation for your concern if Owner no longer wanted you ?
Were you just kicked to the curb ? pennyless, homeless, ?

In the situations I am aware of, the slave was made provisions for if the owner died, was incapacitated or for some reason other than being released, could no longer function as the slave in the relationship.  Most commonly, being given to someone else.

If the slave was released however due to the slaves own choice or actions, they were left with nothing.

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i think that giving completely is the essence of a slave, emotionally , physically, financially,
But does a slave get to keep their, "Morals" ?
Does a slave get to have thier own Spirituality, ?
Does a slave have the right to be protected from communicable disease"s ?
Some say a slave has no rights . period.
hmmmm would i give myself completely if i think my Owner doesn't or won't protect me No.
Does that mean im not a slave. ?
i would really like others views on this especially those with experience, for none but a slave who has made the transition and lived it can tell of the experience...

You need to figure out what will work best for you and then get that.

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RE: THE slave Transition ? Did You get what You deserved ? - 4/23/2006 2:05:04 PM   
twicehappy


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quote:

ORIGINAL: Unameme

Has any slave gone into that type of servitude ?
and did your Owner have any obligation for your concern if Owner no longer wanted you ? Were you just kicked to the curb ? pennyless, homeless, ?


I am a slave with all that the word implies. Personally, no, i have never experienced an uncaring owner, but i have never left or been released from a collar, my 1st owner died after 3 years, my second after 18 years, i am now in my third collar.

I have in my current collar seen a male sub become no longer suited to this household. No, he was not put out. He was given time and support in finding a job, a new home and even given gas money and had his car insurance paid for him to help him out.  

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  Is this a concern of other submissive's who think of taking,
in my mind a huge jump from submission into being a slave of an Owner...


Any sub/slave who is thinking of relocating or giving up their own living arrangements or means of support to enter a 24/7 arrangement needs to seriously consider having a backup plan. I flew 2000 miles to be with my new owners, of course i made sure i had money, bank card etc in case this meeting did not work out.

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Did you get what you deserved ? 
 

Interesting question, usually you get what you earn, though sometimes upon meeting you realize it is just not going to work out. I got the most perfect caring loving Master and Mistress any sub/slave could fantasize about. I got a wonderful home in an adorable town where honestly i think i am spoiled.

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But does a slave get to keep their, "Morals" ?
 

I kept mine but then again they match my owners.

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Does a slave get to have their own Spirituality, ?
 

They should, i kept mine.

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Does a slave have the right to be protected from communicable disease"s ?
 

Absolutely, it would be poor management on the owners not to protect the slave as they would also be exposing themselves also.

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Some say a slave has no rights . period.
hmmmm would i give myself completely if i think my Owner doesn't or won't protect me No.


Nor would i give myself to owners who would not protect me. Yet i am a slave and have given up all rights to my owners.

At this point i feel the need to tell you that while all your concerns and questions are valid ones to gain the information you really need you should be discussing these things with your perspective owners. 

You need to be very careful in whom you offer your submission too. Up until that collar goes on it is incumbent on you to verify that your morals and concerns match those of your prospective Dom/Domme. This is really the best way to protect yourself from conflict or avoid putting yourself in an untenable situation.

Good owners care for their slaves very well. They protect them from both physical and psychological damage. They support you and encourage your growth both as a human being and a slave.

Of course nothing is guaranteed, but taking care in your choices and handling your pre-collar negotiations is your best bet. 


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RE: THE slave Transition ? Did You get what You deserved ? - 4/23/2006 2:34:31 PM   
Unameme


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Joined: 10/6/2005
Status: offline 		Dear twicehappy thanks for your input
in the post,  i really appreciate it, 
  i am talking with an Exceptional , Domme, One who is Strict, Controlling , Compassionate, Intelligent, Creative, Erotic, Intuitive, Spiritual,
i am discussing all my concerns / fears strengths an hopes with Her,
Truly i am feeling so very grateful and honored for the
interest this Beautiful Lady is showing me.  i am discussing all these things mentioned with Her,
My curiosity here is in discourse , with O/others who have had experiences both
positive an negative,
im not going to base my Judgement of my Life as sub / slave, future on anyone's
view other than my own,
Which will be well informed and thought out throughly.
I am not being pressured to decide my fate,  Honesty is the basis from the start an on that we proceed..
 So don't worry about me , twicehappy
in Love Unameme

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RE: THE slave Transition ? Did You get what You deserved ? - 4/23/2006 3:13:13 PM   
fyreredsub


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Status: offline 		it isnt about what you think you deserve.its about what your Owners think you deserve.
if one can't deal with that very existance of knowledge up front then there is no sense in their becoming a slave.
then they need to stick with being a submissive so they can get what they think they deserve.
and in all actuality,
if a slave remains pleasing to their owners it shouldnt be an issue.
and yes this one has had bad owners in the past but it has not changed what she is and this girl had heard horror stories and knows of some that didn't get'what they think they deserve" but its not vanilla marrage with the laws that constitute community property etc.
their are decent good Owners out there that are honorable and do not 'just toss' someone out and then again there are the bad ones...
so it all boils down to be very careful whose collar you beg

trust and communication are vital.

as is the mindset of yes, i am a slave and it is what my master wants.... not what i want.

this comes from a girl who will one day give up all she has for her owners.she will make whatever changes and adjustments are needed to serve them.
this one is protected ,well*giggles* over a situation that occurred and Mistress didnt wish their pet,manhandled.....long story*smiles*.
it is a marveleous feeling to have this ones thoughts and feelings and actions fall more into place with what her Master/Mistress strive with their training for her life to become.

just take it slow and make sure it is what you want opnce you beg that collar.

< Message edited by fyreredsub -- 4/23/2006 3:18:43 PM >

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RE: THE slave Transition ? Did You get what You deserved ? - 5/1/2006 4:40:35 PM   
MsRachelxxx


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quote:

Ive never been worried that id be kicked to the curb in my slavitude. just as i take care of pleasing my owner , i trust in the fact he will never abuse the servitude i give him. Areflectionofyou


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Nor would i give myself to owners who would not protect me. Yet i am a slave and have given up all rights to my owners.

At this point i feel the need to tell you that while all your concerns and questions are valid ones to gain the information you really need you should be discussing these things with your perspective owners. 

You need to be very careful in whom you offer your submission too. Up until that collar goes on it is incumbent on you to verify that your morals and concerns match those of your prospective Dom/Domme. This is really the best way to protect yourself from conflict or avoid putting yourself in an untenable situation.

Good owners care for their slaves very well. They protect them from both physical and psychological damage. They support you and encourage your growth both as a human being and a slave.

Of course nothing is guaranteed, but taking care in your choices and handling your pre-collar negotiations is your best bet. twicehappy


Yes, I soo agree with both of you, i think it would be next to impossible to step outside of ones own morals as a lifestyle.

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