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RE: Initial Questions - 9/26/2010 5:38:50 AM   
bellesoumise


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I had a Dom contact me and ask if I was interested in his ideal situation. His ideal situation included a slave who had no rights at all, would have children with him and raise them in the lifestyle sexually. He ended the message by stating it's legal in many other countries. I did not have the time nor energy to argue or debate so I blocked and deleted.

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RE: Initial Questions - 9/26/2010 6:18:05 AM   
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As he didn't elaborate, how can you know what he actually  meant? Isn't it possible he had former subs who were *into it* in a fantasy way , not that they actually *did it*. That much isn't clear at all from what you've written.

The sensible thing is to have dialogue with someone and clarify exactly what they mean. If you were *shocked by the question and ran*, you're hardly likely to get any clarity and you're already thinking * If he had subs *into it* he must be too?*

If you get all the relevant information without knee-jerk reactions and assumptions....... you can make better decisions, based in fact.

There are thing I'm *into* in a fantasy way , that M wouldn't be in the least and vice-versa.

agirl





Like agirl, it also appears to me you had so little conversation with him that you automatically assumed he meant an illegal activity when it could well have been play. You want to be a baby girl in a pseudo father/daughter relationship. How else could sex between you and your pseudo daddy be described but as incest play?

I find it odd that you're shocked by him using this word when it is what you are seeking.


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RE: Initial Questions - 9/26/2010 6:18:57 AM   
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ORIGINAL: bellesoumise

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I had a Dom contact me and ask if I was interested in his ideal situation. His ideal situation included a slave who had no rights at all, would have children with him and raise them in the lifestyle sexually. He ended the message by stating it's legal in many other countries. I did not have the time nor energy to argue or debate so I blocked and deleted.


In that situation you had the clarity that what he was interested in, wasn't something you were. Easy.

agirl

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RE: Initial Questions - 9/26/2010 6:46:10 AM   
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I am a baby girl in search of my Daddy Dom but recently while chatting with a Dom i was asked if i was into incest, then age play.He stated they were two differnt issues. Since these were some of His initial questions, i think this is important to him. When i asked for clarification, stating that there are HUGE differences between the two subjects He started backing off on the subject. All of my redflags have gone up here...and would welcome some fresh opinions...TY.


i thought it was common knowledge, but apparently it is not; there are many, and i'm talking butt-loads of people who are into daddy/daughter and/or age-play, that at some point in their life, were/are bi-products of either consensual and/or non-consensual incest...

the questions are asked so that some triggers/responses/regressions(if they come into play) are easier understood and/or avoided.

many times, the top has to know from the get-go so they know what to expect may happen, and/or if they are willing to 'deal with' the situation at all...

then again, many times they are looking for someone who is actually into incest because they themselves may be and don't want to be frowned upon because of their 'consensual' life-style choices...

sometimes, and i do mean sometimes, they ask because they may not reveal to you that they've had 'non-consensual' incest relationships but it will reveal itself in play whether it be knowingly or unknowingly; like the guy who unknowingly called me by his minor daughters name while sexually playing with me while giving me a bath

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RE: Initial Questions - 9/26/2010 8:04:54 AM   
agirl


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Status: offline 		I can't say I'd be *shocked* if I was asked anything like this. I'm not *shocked* by being ASKED anything at all. I wouldn't even be shocked if someone told me they WERE into incest, it's not as if I don't know it exists, just as you know it does.

Maybe the shock was that  someone may check whether you are *into* incest , as you're looking for a Daddy/baby girl thing?

You said he stated himself, that they were *two different issues*...And why should it NOT be important to him? He may very well NOT want to be associated with YOU , if you WERE into incest in a REAL sense.

Girls aren't the only ones that need to ask questions to know where they are.

agirl








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RE: Initial Questions - 9/26/2010 8:45:55 AM   
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ORIGINAL: temptedangel

I am a baby girl in search of my Daddy Dom but recently while chatting with a Dom i was asked if i was into incest, then age play.



I'm confused... you self-describe as a "baby girl" in search of a "Daddy Dom" and you're surprised that "age play" and "incest" come up in the conversation?



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RE: Initial Questions - 9/26/2010 8:51:40 AM   
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ORIGINAL: temptedangel

Not incest "play", incest period. I did not get the impression he was speaking of role play, age play, but was speaking of actual incest.




This is the key.. Was he interested in knowing your attitude towards incest play, or was he probing your interest in incest.

It it's the former then I really don't see the problem - it's not at all unreasonable to infer that someone looking for a "Daddy" is interested in incest role-play.

If it's the latter, then you're 100% right to run a mile.

Alas, I'm pretty sure that there are some really nasty fucked up people trawling sites like these and it could well be that you encountered a paedo who is trawling for sub women with young children.



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RE: Initial Questions - 9/26/2010 8:54:46 AM   
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NOT only should your RED Flags go up but so should any color flag you might have. Incest is not anything to play with, period!

Those who tend to entertain Incest are teeter tottering into a territory that is HIGHLY DANGEROUS! Trust your instincts.

Take care!


So, given that the OP identifies as being in search of a "Daddy Dom" - would you advise others to steer clear of her?

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RE: Initial Questions - 9/26/2010 2:58:16 PM   
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ORIGINAL: crazyml


quote:

ORIGINAL: Zevar

NOT only should your RED Flags go up but so should any color flag you might have. Incest is not anything to play with, period!

Those who tend to entertain Incest are teeter tottering into a territory that is HIGHLY DANGEROUS! Trust your instincts.

Take care!


So, given that the OP identifies as being in search of a "Daddy Dom" - would you advise others to steer clear of her?


The position I pointed in out in my prior entry is related to Incestuous Dynamics being acted out between adults. My position was presented & remains intact! I have nothing to say regarding others steering clear of anyone AND am uninterested in discussing such as it is not what I said NOR is it related to the Op. Hence would be Off Topic to engage any further in discussing a concept that I never mentioned nor implied.

Take care!

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RE: Initial Questions - 9/27/2010 12:20:24 AM   
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ORIGINAL: Zevar
NOT only should your RED Flags go up but so should any color flag you might have. Incest is not anything to play with, period!


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I have nothing to say regarding others steering clear of anyone AND am uninterested in discussing such as it is not what I said NOR is it related to the Op.


I'm baffled.

I think I must have misunderstood - You see, when I saw "incest is not anything to play with, period!" I, foolishly it seems, presumed that you took the view that meant that incest play was something you'd advise people to avoid.

As for your statement that incest and the idea of steering clear of people who may be interested in it is unrelated to the OP, well that's just absurd. It is the whole point of the OP.

Take the first line of the OP -
quote:


I am a baby girl in search of my Daddy Dom but recently while chatting with a Dom i was asked if i was into incest, then age play.


I think you'd have to agree that there are at least a couple of clues there?

This prompted my question - the OP identifies as seeking a "daddy dom", which (and I may be reading way too much into this of course) implies to me that she is interested in a "Daddy-Daughter" relationship - which as I'm sure you can figure out for yourself would imply incest-play. Given what appeared to me to be a fairly unambiguous stance on your part with respect to incest-play I asked what seems to me to be a very valid question indeed.




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RE: Initial Questions - 9/27/2010 12:47:14 AM   
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Play is fine - personally I'm not into age play or incest play, but it allows people to express certain aspects of their sexuality in a safe, sane, and consensual environment. A large age difference between partners may or may not be acceptable, but there's nothing wrong with pretending. If it's not your thing, just say so (and state it clearly in your profile to, hopefully, preclude messages from people whose kinks you don't share). Incest is generally agreed upon as wrong. Pretending incest is deviant, therefore kinky. This is a site where people can, do, and will express these and other desires that may not be socially acceptable to talk about in other environments. If you're not into it, just say so and move on. If a potential partner is interested in one or both of these kinks, and it's a deal-breaker for you, it's best to be up front about it.
If pedophilia or incest were suggested as a real life possibility, I would block them and forward the offending messages to a moderator immediately. I'm open-minded and accepting of most kinks, but the BDSM ideals of 'safe, sane, and consensual' are VERY important to maintaining a...well, for lack of a better phrase...safe, sane, and consensual environment to discuss kink and potentially meet people of similar interests.

I certainly do NOT romanticize rape. It's never deserved or 'asked for' and it should not be condoned in any way - but I do enjoy aspects of 'forced' roleplay, and that's my choice. I also like impact and sensation play. This doesn't mean I advocate violence or abuse AT ALL and I would never, ever, under any circumstances, stay with an abusive partner - it just means, in certain situations, I like being smacked hard with a paddle. To be cliche, he does it because he cares. He has absolutely no desire to hurt me, but he knows that I enjoy the sensation. To each their own.

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RE: Initial Questions - 9/27/2010 1:08:11 AM   
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quote:

ORIGINAL: temptedangel

I am a baby girl in search of my Daddy Dom . . .

If you are a "baby girl" seeking "Daddy", then are into incest play in the typical Daddy/Daughter relationship roles.  Why did his question set off red flags?  Don;t you know what is typically expected of "little baby girls" in the bedroom with their "Daddy"? Or was this guy really so creepy you think an experienced "Daddy Dom" wasn't talking about your sexual duties but really wants to fuck all the kids?



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RE: Initial Questions - 9/27/2010 8:16:55 AM   
Zevar


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crazyml: So, given that the OP identifies as being in search of a "Daddy Dom" - would you advise others to steer clear of her




For the final time: I did NOT nor am I now saying to steer clear of her or anyone! My position remains regarding adults engaging the dynamics of Incest one to another. It is dangerous territory.

Enough said!

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RE: Initial Questions - 9/27/2010 9:06:49 AM   
crazyml


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RE: Initial Questions - 9/27/2010 1:50:12 PM   
Zevar


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ORIGINAL: crazyml

Thanks for the clarification.


You are quite welcome.

Take care!

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