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Anyone have a clue how to handle this? - 4/23/2006 11:12:06 PM

scratchingpost

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How does someone stop nightmares and waking up in the middle of the night drenched in sweat afraid for no reason? Does anyone have a clue how to stop nightmares?

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RE: Anyone have a clue how to handle this? - 4/23/2006 11:36:05 PM

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Do a google search of the term 'night terrors'.

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RE: Anyone have a clue how to handle this? - 4/23/2006 11:46:34 PM

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I used to have recurring nightmares. In my 20s, I had horrible nightares - gruesome and sick. Regularly. I changed my thoughts when I went to bed...all positive thoughts - meditation, prayer, focus on positive things. Made a huge difference.

If you really want to go "out there," there is a film called "Waking Life" www.wakinglifemovie.com It done with rotoscoping - a unique and cool animation technique. Film transferred to animation - both traditional animation and computer animation. Anyway, the film is about Lucid Dreaming - the ability to control where you go within your dreams, to turn them around and to create your own experiences. It is very philosophical, but I found it quite interesting.

Can be found on amazon.com for $6.99

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RE: Anyone have a clue how to handle this? - 4/23/2006 11:49:01 PM

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It is possible to learn how to manipulate your dreams/nightmares. BitaTruble's advice is a good start. You may need to find a doctor/therapist to help you. alayna has learned how to manipulate her dreams (about 80 percent of the time) and it has been a great help. Good luck.

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RE: Anyone have a clue how to handle this? - 4/24/2006 12:18:36 AM

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I know this is going to sound simplistic, but often the most simple answers are the right ones

1) Examine the problems in your life and the stress in it
2) Meditate and repeat "I will remember what is scaring me in these dreams" (because it sounds like you do not remember them).
3) When you start remembering them (and you will because your psyche wants you to deal with it by giving you these dreams in the first place), try to isolate the symbols and themes, are you running away from something? Is someone leaving you somewhere? Is there someone fighting you? Examine the color and the numbers in your dreams. Do searches on dream symbols and try to see if they correspond to things in your life.
4) Once you think you know why you have the dreams you will either stop having them or you will gain control over them.

If it is not something that is bothering you in your life it could be organically based and you may need medical attention for a sleep disorder, but I would try that first... and if you do remember your dreams and want to email them to me I have books about dream symbols and archetypes because I research them.... perhaps I can help you...

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RE: Anyone have a clue how to handle this? - 4/24/2006 3:33:46 AM

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Many people who have been through trauma such as a House Fire, Auto Accident, Boating Accident, natural Disiater or Warfare have tendencies to relive such event in bream state... One way is to confront these issues and over time with help that can and often do cease to cause you problems. Still sometimes even then something happens which is a trigger and you have a sweat drenched bad dream.... Every combat vet I know has been through this..Anzac Day will do it for me, but because I know what I am reliving I have learned to deal with it..

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RE: Anyone have a clue how to handle this? - 4/24/2006 5:12:32 AM

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I had some for quite a few months after returning from Iraq, I also had pretty bad insomnia to the point they put me on a sleepy medication for about 6 months. Once I stopped the perscrtiption and my sleep habits normalized my nightmare/terrors stopped. So my only advice is if you have additional sleeping troubles besides these, try non-medicated methods to fix them first then see a doctor, fixing one problem might solve the other as it did for me.

One disclaimer, everyone is diffrent so people react diffrently. Also I strongly suggest trying to solve before medication, changing sleeping habits and so forth can be just as effective for some people.

Well I hope you find a solution that fits you. In the mean time take care and I wish you peaceful sleep.

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RE: Anyone have a clue how to handle this? - 4/24/2006 5:47:53 AM

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What you describe sounds like Night Terrrors, not ordinary nightmares or bad dreams. The big difference is terrors are generally thought to be caused by physiological changes in the body that become interpreted by the mind into a nightmare. So what comes first is an abnormal dumping of 'fight or fliight' chemicals into the body causing increased heart rate, respiration, perspiration etc.... The brain then creates the scene or imagery to go along with the feeling of terror.

I'd examine any major changes in diet, medications, supplements etc... that might have an effect on hormone/chemical levels.

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RE: Anyone have a clue how to handle this? - 4/24/2006 6:25:43 AM

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Thanks for the advice so far...I wish I could figure out why I am having them everything is going well adn I am generally happy I have.normal stressors of everyday life no big changes... i am quite content...In fact the biggest stress I have is a math class I am taking at school so I do not understand why all of a sudden the last two months I am having these dreams it is annoying that I cannot remember them.

The kids say I have woken them up screaming and cursing lol and I told them that is impossible I do not remember a damn thing of it. If I could remember them then I know I could get to the bottom of it and work it out but I do not know how to remember it even getting myself up immediately afterwards...I went to bed last night at 930 fell right to sleep and was awake by 1130 again I got up wrote the post went back to bed and woke up just before the alarm clock went off fine...

It is so odd and I cannot figure it out....Im a psych minor at school and cannot comprehend why its happening now when everything in life is so calm...very frustrating because none of the techniques I have learned to combat these issues works...I cannot keep a dream journal because I cannot remember them.. I am tired of walking around tired all day because of the interruptions at night. Everything at home is good I am getiting all A's in school except for that math class...The kids are healthy I just got over borderline pneumonia and am on my way back to being healthy...No major financial worries, My relationships are as normal as they get

I have racked my lil brain trying to figure it out as I have never had night terrors.. I have always had insomnia ( alifelong issue of it) so that is nothing new but now I am finally sleeping and whammo those dreams interrupt it...sighs...Thank you all for trying to help me figure this out...I am at a point where I am thinking to consult a professor or something because I just cannot figure it out on my own sighs...I know their first response would be to consult a physician but I never could understand how a medical dr can help an obvious subconcious problem makes no sense to me

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RE: Anyone have a clue how to handle this? - 4/24/2006 6:51:26 AM

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That sounds like something is physically wrong then.. it will not hurt to meditate (meditation is physically wonderful for you), but it sounds like you might need a doc that treats sleep disorders. Not all of them want to put you on meds the first thing.. some treat other parts of you first... Good luck with that, I will send some light to you!

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RE: Anyone have a clue how to handle this? - 4/24/2006 6:54:04 AM

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"Lucid Dreaming - the ability to control where you go within your dreams"
Yeah I had to learn how to do that, been getting flesh eating zombie nightmares since I was 12, now Im able to turn them into a really cool video game inside my head, except I wake up when I "loose".

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RE: Anyone have a clue how to handle this? - 4/24/2006 6:59:08 AM

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LOL what do you do.. if you have the same type of dreams.. "gruesome, sick" but dont consider them nightmares? Ya know.. i was actually raped in a dream once. Mutilated limbs, graphic detail of blood, and broken bones. My little sister once fell off a 40 story building and i tell ya when i got down to the ground.. she was in some terrible shape! i was slightly aghast at how each and every limb was broken.. some of the bone jutting through the skin.

<sigh< its been so long that they're actually starting to fade from my memory. i cant actually remember a variety of different dreams. Tho i remember the one about falling out a plane, landing 200 years in the future, dinasours in the park at night, and then trying to figure out how to get 200 years in the past. i realised i had to "die" (figured that out after falling 20 feet and going nooooooooo where) So i found a place to fall, that would kill me.. and dont ya know i traveled 200 years BEHIND present time.

Do what i did, unknowningly. Find some one who can walk in your dreams with you and control them for ya = ) i swear it, tho i know ppl will think i'm nuts. Himself started controlling my dreams, consciously - literally being in every single dream, night after night - leaving at times (dreams going back to some hellish thing) and coming in at times as they would start to turn.

i think i can actually have a pleasant dream with out him in it now. Although i cant think of one.

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RE: Anyone have a clue how to handle this? - 4/24/2006 7:34:01 AM

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I dream usually every night and they're usually always nightmares..but I don't wake up I just live the bloody thing through UGH! But maybe mediate might be worth a try, like Juilia mentioned earlier, or yoga? Go out for a walk in the evenings just before you go to bed?

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RE: Anyone have a clue how to handle this? - 4/24/2006 7:42:08 AM

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Some of my best dreams have been nightmares - not pleasant, but definitely memorable. Could get ugly if I had more of them though I suppose.

Anyway, guy I knew once told me that if you can visualize your hands in the dream, you can take control of it - dunno if it works, never tried it - I guess I like the idea of suprises.

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RE: Anyone have a clue how to handle this? - 4/24/2006 8:40:36 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: Amaros

Some of my best dreams have been nightmares - not pleasant, but definitely memorable. Could get ugly if I had more of them though I suppose.

Anyway, guy I knew once told me that if you can visualize your hands in the dream, you can take control of it - dunno if it works, never tried it - I guess I like the idea of suprises.

I have no nightmares anymore, only learning experiences in my dreams. I wake up and think "what was THAT trying to say to me???" Sometimes I gain control over the situation that is unpleasant and sometimes I don't... But I am always trying to find a solution to the "problem" in my dreams..... Like once I dreamed I was in a car wreck with my son and I had to figure out how to get us both out of it... I was trying to escape when I awoke... I was going through a divorce at the time (pretty self evident what that dream meant huh???)

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RE: Anyone have a clue how to handle this? - 4/24/2006 9:09:36 AM

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Don't know really. My dreams are pretty easy to figure out.

If I'm worried about money, I tend to have dreams, where I find a bunch, or am miraculously given free reign in a mall to take whatever I want. LOL, I love that one.

If I'm horny when I go to sleep, I will have some very interesting visualizations to say the least. It's almost worth being horny for those dreams. People would love them if I could only record them. Hmmmm, maybe I'll take a nap.

It goes on pretty much like that for me.

I do have nightmares, but generally it relates to something and generally involves snakes or sharks. Cringe. Watching a snake documentary will almost always lead to me confronting a 50 foot long snake or a flying great white shark later that night. Flying great whites are horrific believe me. shivver.

Only thing I can think is your recent illness, may still be on your mind. For me I only have nightmares when there is a stimulus to cause it.

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RE: Anyone have a clue how to handle this? - 4/24/2006 10:50:58 AM

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I used to have horrible repetitive nightmares that I was being tortured and killed by my boyfriend at the time. They were so real that I woke up in excruciating pain, crying my eyes out. I finally started to examine his and my relationship and I realized he was killing me, just not physically. We went our seperate ways for various reasons and the nightmares stopped.

I have absolutely no idea if this does you any good or not, but I just thought I'd share in case it did. Perhaps making sure your mind is clear of worry and you are able to get relaxed sleep before you doze off would help. Sometimes, as was the case with me, the dreams are just a product of your waking anxieties.

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RE: Anyone have a clue how to handle this? - 4/25/2006 10:03:54 PM

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While I seem unable to remember the dream itself...I know I awaken feeling everything is completely black and empty I am completely alone and isolated. Like being in the middle of space except there is solid ground though it too, is completely black. There are no shapes. I suppose it is like being blind and in the middle of an empty cavernous room and I do not know which direction to head towards so I go nowhere and stand there frozen in fear waiting to be guided out of there. It is complete nothingness. I guide so many people day to day...I am the one expected to always be strong and I usually am. These dreams leave me shaking, feeling a sense of loss and alone. I know I have a decision to make which direction to go and yet I am frozen in place because I just do not know which way is right and instead do nothing. Like I said I have no memory of the actual dream unless the dream itself is nothingness.I do not know what to make of it. I know when I wake up I feel really needy. Almost desperate to cling to something and have a desire to be led out of the darkness I awake crying with a deep feeling of dispair and helplessness and hopelessness.

It started to make me depressed today... I noticed. I couldnt concentrate and felt myself dragging with little energy. I am not usually like that. When my IM's went off I found myself just telling people i was busy and didnt want to be disturbed which was partly true as I was trying to study and get myself together for my 12 hours of class, however I usually find the time to be there somehow if even for a moment for everyone and today I just couldnt answer the 8 conversations going on at the same time. It seemed overwhelming to me which it normally isn't an issue. I didnt feel like answering one more question or lending a friendly ear. I wanted to close the door and blinds and just speak to my toy or to M. and one girl I know..Everyone else seemed rather intrusive and annoying. I feel rather guilty about it since I know I am usually there for those not in my immediate house but it seemed like I had to take a personal day and concentrate only on my home. It is nearing bedtime now, and while I still have a bit more homework to do I am procrastinating and will simply do it in the morning as the lack of sleep I have been getting as of late is just not enabling me to make heads or tails of anything at the moment.

I wonder if it is alright to simply want to cry for no reason for a dream that I cannot remember for a feeling over something I know not where it comes from for a sense of loss I feel that is not based on anything tangible to me....I wonder if it would even help?

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RE: Anyone have a clue how to handle this? - 4/25/2006 10:54:21 PM

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Of course it's alright to cry for no reason, or just because of a dream! It may not help the actual situation much, but it's always cathartic to just let it out.

It's also normal to shy away from others' problems when you're dealing with your own. I'm the mommy/therapist of my group of friends, and believe me, I know what you mean when you say it gets overwhelming. Sometimes you have to put yourself first. If they can't deal with their own lives for a little while without your assistance, they need more serious help than you can give them. Take care of yourself and the rest will follow.

Have you told the truly important people in your life about your dreams? I've found it's always better when at least one close person knows what you're dealing with, even if it's just so you have a shoulder to cry on to help with that empty feeling.

If you need someone to talk to, vent to, or cry to, I'm here. Feel free to mail me anytime regardless of whether you feel awkward doing it or not. I may not be able to help much, but I can listen with the best of them. Good luck, hon'.

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RE: Anyone have a clue how to handle this? - 4/26/2006 8:02:53 AM

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Maybe it sounds stupid but have you tried sleeping with a little light turned on? Just an idea..

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