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exquisitecadaver -> RE: Greetings from a genderqueer trans guy (9/28/2010 10:06:52 PM)

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ORIGINAL: WyldHrt

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Do people not read!?

Unfortunately, some really don't. I get messages from both female subs and Dommes, even though I checked the 'looking for' boxes for Male Dominant and Friends Only (the messages I'm referring to aren't soliciting just friendship, lol). It's annoying, but there's really no way to make someone read your profile before writing.

I tried large bold font...for now, at least.




WyldHrt -> RE: Greetings from a genderqueer trans guy (9/28/2010 10:15:38 PM)

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I tried large bold font...for now, at least.

That works... if they bother to view your profile. [8D]
Some folks here just shotgun their cut and paste messages to anyone and everyone. If you are getting mails like that, please report them as spam. There is a new system in place that targets 'shotgun' mailers.




exquisitecadaver -> RE: Greetings from a genderqueer trans guy (9/28/2010 10:31:07 PM)

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ORIGINAL: WyldHrt

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I tried large bold font...for now, at least.

That works... if they bother to view your profile. [8D]
Some folks here just shotgun their cut and paste messages to anyone and everyone. If you are getting mails like that, please report them as spam. There is a new system in place that targets 'shotgun' mailers.

Schveet.
Done and done...although some aren't copy/paste...still equally annoying.




hausboy -> RE: Greetings from a genderqueer trans guy (9/29/2010 9:43:30 PM)

well, yeah.. remember that a lot of straight guys completely don't understand FTMs.....or any variety/flavor thereof--they see the word "Trans" and they automatically assume MTF, transvestite, crossdresser....etc.  I can't tell you how many times I thought it was perfectly clear, and then I get emals from straight guys....who are quite disappointed and curse me because "you're a fucking man!"  ummm. yes. that's what the "M" in FTM stands for....*shaking head*....

don't blame the men. it's not their fault. testosterone makes you stupid.  my IQ dropped 50 points when I started on hormones.  I considered it be a fair trade for the moustache and a sex drive that doesn't quit! 




exquisitecadaver -> RE: Greetings from a genderqueer trans guy (9/29/2010 10:18:06 PM)

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ORIGINAL: hausboy

well, yeah.. remember that a lot of straight guys completely don't understand FTMs.....or any variety/flavor thereof--they see the word "Trans" and they automatically assume MTF, transvestite, crossdresser....etc.  I can't tell you how many times I thought it was perfectly clear, and then I get emals from straight guys....who are quite disappointed and curse me because "you're a fucking man!"  ummm. yes. that's what the "M" in FTM stands for....*shaking head*....

don't blame the men. it's not their fault. testosterone makes you stupid.  my IQ dropped 50 points when I started on hormones.  I considered it be a fair trade for the moustache and a sex drive that doesn't quit! 

I don't think too many people understand trans-folks in general. Hell, trans people don't understand other trans people. Like me, I identify as somewhere between gender queer and "guy." In the upcoming weeks I'll be starting T (after a long friggen time of waiting) but some people are telling me not to because I don't identify fully as a guy. Others are telling me to do it because it'll help me pass. Ugh, I also got crap about wanting to wear a skirt.

ANYWAYS I think it's a bit more clear now that I have some bold font. I've had messages from straight guys that think I'm a woman on a lot of sites. I've also had messages (on another site) from straight guys that are into trans guys (there was fetishizing/obectifying types) and some gay guys that I guess wanted me to join their poly group.

Heehee, the M in FTM doesn't stand for man. It's male or masculine...depending on who you ask.

Right now my sex drive is crazy low so hoping it doesn't get crazy on T.




OttersSwim -> RE: Greetings from a genderqueer trans guy (9/30/2010 7:56:38 AM)

Hihi!  Just dropping in to say hello.  There are a few trans folk here and the BDSM lifestyle is generally quite accepting of trans-folk and gender queeriness in general.  So Welcome!  :)




hausboy -> RE: Greetings from a genderqueer trans guy (9/30/2010 3:16:51 PM)

Feel free to email me privately if you just want to chat about hormones/transition issues. 






thornhappy -> RE: Greetings from a genderqueer trans guy (9/30/2010 7:13:18 PM)

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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist
So everyone listed as trans will have to put a picture of their hand in the profile photo?  Then you could check whether the ring finger was longer than the index and know if they were Mtf or FtM.   

Hey RS, my ring finger is longer than my index finger and I'm a hetero XX.




exquisitecadaver -> RE: Greetings from a genderqueer trans guy (9/30/2010 11:19:35 PM)

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ORIGINAL: thornhappy

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ORIGINAL: ResidentSadist
So everyone listed as trans will have to put a picture of their hand in the profile photo?  Then you could check whether the ring finger was longer than the index and know if they were Mtf or FtM.   

Hey RS, my ring finger is longer than my index finger and I'm a hetero XX.

Not really sure what the "hetero" part is about.
*shrugs*




thishereboi -> RE: Greetings from a genderqueer trans guy (10/1/2010 4:50:05 AM)

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Yea, so far I've gotten messaged mostly by straight dom guys. Do people not read!?


No, actually, a lot of them don't or if they do, they don't comprehend it. I get messages from guys all the time, just ignore them and move on.

Oh and welcome to cm[:)]




SlutsyTipsy -> RE: Greetings from a genderqueer trans guy (10/1/2010 8:00:54 AM)

Haha, another person who says 'schveet', cool :)




hausboy -> RE: Greetings from a genderqueer trans guy (10/1/2010 3:28:49 PM)

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[/quote]I don't think too many people understand trans-folks in general. Hell, trans people don't understand other trans people. Like me, I identify as somewhere between gender queer and "guy." In the upcoming weeks I'll be starting T (after a long friggen time of waiting) but some people are telling me not to because I don't identify fully as a guy. Others are telling me to do it because it'll help me pass. Ugh, I also got crap about wanting to wear a skirt.

ANYWAYS I think it's a bit more clear now that I have some bold font. I've had messages from straight guys that think I'm a woman on a lot of sites. I've also had messages (on another site) from straight guys that are into trans guys (there was fetishizing/obectifying types) and some gay guys that I guess wanted me to join their poly group.

Heehee, the M in FTM doesn't stand for man. It's male or masculine...depending on who you ask.

Right now my sex drive is crazy low so hoping it doesn't get crazy on T.

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Well, actually, I'll publicly disagree with you here on that one. And I'll post this for those curious-- For many of us (but obviously, not all of us), Female-to-Male  is synonymous with becoming a male, and it has zero to do with masculinity.  I know loads of feminine FTMs and they are male... and men...but not masculine.  I don't understand your difference between a "guy" and a "man"--for me, those two are the same--so I'm a wee confused about that one.  But if wearing a skirt, taking ballet, cross-dressing is your thing...whatever it is you like to do--you can do regardless of your gender.  (I know men who do ALL of those things! it's all good)

Testosterone will not "help" you pass- it *will* enable you to live as a male....be the male you are... without ever having to worry about "passing" again.  It will silence some of the gender dysphoric chatter that us TS guys have going on in our brains all the time, and once I started hormones, I finally felt healthy, balanced, focused and normal.  All the rage and anxiety I had experienced as a female quieted. 

So I don't "pass" as a male, I am a male--I don't have to put effort or thought into it now, and that for me was the right choice.  I can finally live my life happily, and I don't have to deal with the gender crap in my head that pervaded every aspect of my life for all those miserable years. However ,I couldn't pick and choose what secondary male characteristics I developed.  I love the deep voice, the beard and the muscles.  The male-pattern baldness and  back & butt furr I could do without, but such is the tradeoff for my slice of happiness.  My brain simply works better now and the chemistry feels right.

It changes how I physically look, smell, feel, and think.  it is SO much more than just appearance--I had no idea when I first ventured into it.  And for you kinky folks--my ability to process pain TOTALLY changed too.  I was a complete pain pig before testosterone, and now I can't take anywhere near what I used to be able to.  The pain gets "processed" differently in my head now.

And as for the sex drive?  Oh hell ya!  The first 6 months were incredibly intense and overwhelming at times. I went from almost no sex drive to having to wank off at least 2-4 times a day. Your body goes through menopause and puberty simultaneously, and you'll want to fuck anything amd do lots of stupid things.  The key is using your adult mature "female" brain and making healthy decisions that normal 14 year old pubescent boys don't.  I belong to a group where we mentor and coach new guys into transition--and we have a deal--call your mentor if you're thinking of doing something that you think is a good idea...and we'll tell you if it's something really stupid and a bad idea, which it usually is.   And just keep repeating this mantra to yourself:  "Look at her eyes....her eyes....keep looking at her eyes...stop staring at her breasts....look up...look up..."




exquisitecadaver -> RE: Greetings from a genderqueer trans guy (10/1/2010 7:54:01 PM)

Hausboy, I read what you said, got overall pissed off about it, waited a while to calm down about the topic and come back to it with a level head.

My main feelings that I feel need to be pointed out are as follows:
I feel as if you are discounting my identity. You are telling me what I am by saying things like "be the male you are." You also spoke about crossdressing. I don't consider my wanting to wear a skirt as cross dressing, it's simply me wanting to wear a skirt. You're also labeling me as being a transsexual when I do not identify with a transsexual identity.

I think that your ideas about "FTM" identities and transition goals are generic. I don't want to "live as a male" or "man" what ever word you choose. My identity and goals are much different from yours and I'm guessing the other trans men you've spoken to. I don't have "rage" as a person that is often read as a masculine female. There is frustration, there's confusion...but no "rage." I do not intend on transitioning to a stealth "male." I don't want to become "a man."

Another point we disagree on is about hormones. Although you cannot completely pick and choose the changes, you can counteract them. I know a guy that took T until he saw the results he wanted (facial hair, deep voice, body hair, etc) then when a bald spot appeared he stopped taking T. Not everybody has noticeable mental changes. I know at least one person that has gone on testosterone and not have changes in thought processes. Nothing about testosterone is completely universal.

I'm also very confused about that mentoring program/heterosexism.




hausboy -> RE: Greetings from a genderqueer trans guy (10/1/2010 10:14:26 PM)

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ORIGINAL: exquisitecadaver

Hausboy, I read what you said, got overall pissed off about it, waited a while to calm down about the topic and come back to it with a level head.

My main feelings that I feel need to be pointed out are as follows:
I feel as if you are discounting my identity. You are telling me what I am by saying things like "be the male you are." You also spoke about crossdressing. I don't consider my wanting to wear a skirt as cross dressing, it's simply me wanting to wear a skirt. You're also labeling me as being a transsexual when I do not identify with a transsexual identity.

I think that your ideas about "FTM" identities and transition goals are generic. I don't want to "live as a male" or "man" what ever word you choose. My identity and goals are much different from yours and I'm guessing the other trans men you've spoken to. I don't have "rage" as a person that is often read as a masculine female. There is frustration, there's confusion...but no "rage." I do not intend on transitioning to a stealth "male." I don't want to become "a man."

Another point we disagree on is about hormones. Although you cannot completely pick and choose the changes, you can counteract them. I know a guy that took T until he saw the results he wanted (facial hair, deep voice, body hair, etc) then when a bald spot appeared he stopped taking T. Not everybody has noticeable mental changes. I know at least one person that has gone on testosterone and not have changes in thought processes. Nothing about testosterone is completely universal.

I'm also very confused about that mentoring program/heterosexism.



You are missing what I'm saying.  I'm not telling you to be anyone other than yourself.  And you can have whatever goals that make you happy--you seem to think that I'm judging you or making judgements, and I'm not.  I once identified just as you do now.  I'm not discounting your identity--I LIVED that identity for a long frickin' time--just relax, bud.  My identity and my goals from when I was 23 changed quite a bit when I hit 29....and changed again around 35...and again at 40.  (Can't wait to see what 50 will bring)  Your identity and goals will change too.  It's a part of life.

Where I live, FTMs mentor each other --we support one another to find the right path.  This is for one reason:  the suicide rate for transfolks is ridiculously high--and many of us have been suicidal before finding support with other people who had the same experience and feelings. We support one another.  End of story.  It was this support that sustained me for the years I spent cross-living, and when I made my decision to transition, the support and help I received from others was a huge help.  I would have hated to have gone through it alone.  I've buried three friends who never saw it to 40. Other guys were there for me....I'm there for other guys.  Heterosexism? Are you kidding me? lol. I've now seen every configuration of the kinsey scale possible....we don't all end up straight men.

Look...here's my message...which you didn't seem to get:: transition can be very difficult--it's hard on the person transitioning, his family, his friends, his significant other...it can affect one's employment, housing, finances....everything.  I would have been lost without the support from other guys who went through it before me, and it was always reassuring and helpful to have friends to call up and make sure that what I was experiencing wasn't out of the norm.

Don't want my ear?  ....doesn't hurt my feelings.  But don't be so quick to push away people that want to offer you advice to help you through a time that can be some wild and crazy stuff.  I did my homework on testosterone for 8 years....and nothing could prepare for the real experience of it.








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