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...Can financial dominants... - 4/24/2006 7:37:08 AM

MissyRane

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...actually call themselves dominants

because I just..can't find it fitting in the dominant category at all

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RE: ...Can financial dominants... - 4/24/2006 7:56:07 AM

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What one does for money is not the same as what one IS in a relationship.

So, a pro dominant can also be a dominant in their actual life.

As well, someone saying "I order you to give me $50 a week as part of your service to me" is really no different from saying "I order you to do three loads of laundry a week as part of your service to me."

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RE: ...Can financial dominants... - 4/24/2006 8:00:22 AM

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I don't have anything against pro doms but what I've been wondering about are all these profiles where the "I'll dominate your wallet" seems to rule everything the you're-my-pay-pig-and-nothing-else phrase

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RE: ...Can financial dominants... - 4/24/2006 8:02:48 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MissyRane
I don't have anything against pro doms but what I've been wondering about are all these profiles where the "I'll dominate your wallet" seems to rule everything the you're-my-pay-pig-and-nothing-else phrase

It's just their kink, and they are being completely honest about it. There are doms who simply want to control a persons sex life as well. Whatever works for them.

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RE: ...Can financial dominants... - 4/24/2006 8:07:33 AM

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ORIGINAL: MissyRane

I just..can't find it fitting in the dominant category at all

Maybe not fitting, but potentially lucrative. What's unsavory about it is how the mark is besides the point to the money or how the relationship is contingent upon a series of payments. It cannot help the sub/slave feel like anything but worthless shit in the end, or I suppose for a super wealthy person, its the equivalent of having a personal call girl. So, for the super wealthy, the payments are actually a way of controlling the relationship.

I've never seen anyone post much about what this is actually like in RT practice, which to me suggests it doesn't happen very often, or if does happen, there's too much shame attached to be sharing the experience with others.

I also don't think LA's comparison in the second post is very appropriate or analogous to Financial Domination as its described in some F's profiles. I also don't think those Dommes would settle for any sum in the range of a paltry $50.00 either.

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RE: ...Can financial dominants... - 4/24/2006 8:08:30 AM

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I'd prefer just to light my money up with a match. It's all the same to me. To each their own I suppose.

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RE: ...Can financial dominants... - 4/24/2006 8:12:59 AM

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mhmm the idea is good though..easy money heh..maybe i should try n be a financial sub

worth a try *thinks*

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RE: ...Can financial dominants... - 4/24/2006 8:14:03 AM

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I have served financially and have found it a good way to show your devotion, what is the one thing everyone in this world cares about? MONEY! So if your willing to part with what everyone loves so much in order to serve who you actually want to serve I think it shows true devotion. But that is just the opinion of a lowly femslave.

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RE: ...Can financial dominants... - 4/24/2006 8:16:48 AM

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quote:

ORIGINAL: MissyRane

mhmm the idea is good though..easy money heh..maybe i should try n be a financial sub worth a try *thinks*

Good idea Missy...why didn't I think of that. It would be interesting to see how that worked.

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RE: ...Can financial dominants... - 4/24/2006 8:18:00 AM

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Money is freedom and opportunity for all of us. Take that into a service to another and you have something that most people could akin to negative motivation. To some it has an appeal. I don't find it right for me or for every body. Some one stated below about doing laundry and giving money. That is a close approximation of it, and just like any thing else here each person who enjoys this will vary in how it is applied. I don't think it is different than any other willing enslavement.

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RE: ...Can financial dominants... - 4/24/2006 8:20:04 AM

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Yes that is how i feel, if one enjoys then let him enjoy. As long as it isnt forced or blackmailed out of someone then it's to each his/her own.

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RE: ...Can financial dominants... - 4/24/2006 8:25:17 AM

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The thing is, for every financial dominant who demands the money, there are at least 10 submissives salivating at the thought of being so used, so controlled, that even their wallet is open to the dominant's desires.

The entire point of submitting to a financial dominant, is knowing that the only reason they're having anything to do with you is your money. Its like a person with an extreme foot fetish ... Only, its money ... Instead of feet.

I dont care for the hateful attitude people get towards pro dominants or financial dominants. I used to work as a financial dominant. I didnt become rich ... I ended up quitting because the submissives who approached me always wanted to be treated like crap. They didnt want respect or caring or any sort of humanity whatsoever. They wanted to be used up, to be berated and humiliated and then ordered to give over their credit cards and take me on a shopping spree.

I couldnt get into it personally and it showed ...

The original question kind of offended me. It makes about as much sense as saying "Can bedroom only submissives actually call themselves submissive?"

Financial domination is just another form of fetish play ... Just because its not YOUR fetish, doesnt mean its any less kinky or less real.

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RE: ...Can financial dominants... - 4/24/2006 8:28:27 AM

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Since keeping someone captive and beating them up (melodramatic) is illegal, all relationships are consensual and at least in part, fantasy so I don't see it as a big leap to pay someone for service. I can even see the kick in actually paying someone for service. As to whether someone is a real Dom or not because they take money to provide a service, I think it is irrelevent. If it is real in the sub's imagination then they will probably think they are getting value for money.

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RE: ...Can financial dominants... - 4/24/2006 9:17:49 AM

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In response to the thread about financial domination...the expression becomes a misnomer unless it refers to a slave having no money or place to go so remains financially enslaved to her 'master.' This is similar to the historical involuntary slavery during medieval times and serfdom. The kajira is often protrayed as the 'financial' slave that would otherwise be facing starvation, is trained as a slave to survive the torture or even to stay alive. The most despensible or valuable could be and were often sold. The world of Gor to me is a world constructed around this period of medieval slavery.

Otherwise, my observation is that for a sub to pay any money at all it is within a 24/7 live-in situation only. I've seen a submission fee as described, or any money given to a master, should be for either her contribution to the household or the entire salary as contribution and the balanced saved and invested. Then the master becomes in effect, the household investment manager.

The financial arrangement of these relationships or not...can be all over the place. I know a very attractive articulate young bi slave/masochist that inherited and she now can afford the pro sadist once in a while as she lost her long term master/sadist. She does it for the pain and excitement..and he leaves. I've seen the opposite for money with a pro domme. That just falls into the category of services for sale. BUT to give a dom/master or a domme money for this privelage of surving goes a bit beyond my comprehension of a true master. I could demand all of your money and property upon my ownership of you and your service to me. BUT again, it is my responsibility to use that for the long term care and success of our affair or the master is a fraud and seeks only take from his slave for his own shallow aggrandizement.

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RE: ...Can financial dominants... - 4/24/2006 10:17:39 AM

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I think people can call themselves whatever they want but they are what they are. I can put on plaid shorts, shoes with spikes and a golf shirt and call myself a golfer but if I never haul my ass out to the course at some ungodly hour and actually play the game people are going to notice.

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