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Real0ne -> RE: VOTE THE BUMS OUT! (9/28/2010 8:21:07 PM)
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well I only have permission to post what I did. The battle has just begun and she does not want more released at this time.
Term as usual hit it right on.
Meantime here is something entertaining for you all.
1. To what or whom is an attorney’s first duty?
We consult the latest Corpus Juris Secundum (C.J.S.) legal encyclopedia, volume 7, section 4 for the answer below:
§ 4 ATTORNEY & CLIENT 7 C.J.S.
“His first duty is to the courts and the public, not to the clients, and wherever the duties to his client conflict with those he owes as an officer of the court in the administration of justice, the former must yield to the latter.
The office of attorney is indispensable to the administration of justice and is intimate and peculiar in its relation to, and vital to the well-being of, the court. An attorney has a duty to aid the court in seeing that actions and proceedings in which he is engaged as counsel are conducted in a dignified and orderly manner, free from passion and personal animosities, and that all causes brought to an issue are tried and decided on their merits only; to aid the court…”
2. What is the legal relationship between an attorney and his/her client?
§§ 2-3 ATTORNEY & CLIENT 7 C.J.S.
“…and the term is synonymous with “attorney”. Therefore, anyone advertising himself as a lawyer holds himself out to be an attorney, an attorney at law, or counselor at law.
If one appears before any court in the interest of another and moves the court to action with respect to any matter before it of a legal nature, such person appears as an “advocate”, as that term s generally understood. The phrase “as an advocate in a representative capacity,” as used in the statute regulating the practice of law, implies a representation distinct from officer or other regular administrative corporate employee representation.
In England and her colonies a “barrister” is a person entitled to practice as an advocate or counsel in the superior courts. A “solicitor” is a person whose business it is to be employed in the care and management of suits depending in courts of chancery. In the great majority of the states of the Union, where law and equity are both administered by the same court, it has naturally come about that the two offices of attorney at law and solicitor in chancery have practically been consolidated, although in the federal equity practice the term “solicitor” is in general use; but in some states the office of solicitor in chancery is a distinct and separate office from that of attorney at law.
A client is one who applies to a lawyer or counselor for advice and direction in a question of law, or commits his cause to his management in prosecuting a claim or defending against a suit in a court of justice; one who retains the attorney, is responsible to him for his fees, and to whom the attorney is responsible for the management of the suit; one who communicates facts to an attorney expecting professional advice. Clients are also called “wards of the court” in regard to their relationship with their attorneys.
§ 3. Nature of Right to Practice
While it has been broadly stated that the right to practice law is not a natural or constitutional right, but is in the nature of a privilege or franchise, the practice of law is not a matter of grace but of right for one who is qualified by his learning and moral character.”
Library references
Attorney and Clients
“The right to practice law is not a natural or constitutional right. Nor is the right to practice…”
3. What is a ward of the court?
“Wards of court. Infants and persons of unsound mind placed by the court under the care of a guardian. Davis Committee v. Loney, 290 Ky. 644, 162 S.W. 2d. 189, 190.
Their rights must be guarded jealously. Montgomery v. Erie R. Co., C.C.A.N.J., 97 F, 2d 289, 292. See Guardianship”
(Are you an infant or person of unsound mind?)
4. Do you need to challenge jurisdiction? Better read the following, particularly “…because if pleaded by an attorney…”
“In propria persona /in pröwpryəpersównə/. In one’s own proper person. It was formerly a rule in pleading that pleas to the jurisdiction of the court must be plead in propria persona, because if pleaded by attorney they admit the jurisdiction, as an attorney is an officer of the court, and he is presumed to plead after having obtained leave, which admits the jurisdiction. See Pro se.”
Conclusions of law:
1. When you hire an attorney, you become a ward of the court and a second class citizen and you admit the jurisdiction of the court in the matter at hand (which is in the fiction since all courts today are corporate; so you’d be indicating that you are a surety for a civilly dead entity.
2. You can’t hire an attorney if you want to challenge jurisdiction.
3. If you want to challenge jurisdiction, the only way you can do it is as a “sui juris” and/or “in propria persona”.
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By PRE-senting yourself, you are competent and must be respected by your public servants. Their failure to act properly is grounds for their removal from public office.
When you hire an attorney, you declare yourself incompetent to speak for yourself and in need of court direction. You are a ward of the court. I can speak for myself and so can you. With a basic understanding and your refusal to let those issues slide, the court is forced to act in your interest.
Failure to do so establishes a “Conspiracy against rights” 18 USC 241by the judge and attorney to deny you your rights in court. Contact the US Attorney’s Office and file a “Criminal Complaint”. If they refuse, jurisdiction is established for “JAG” in “Admiralty Jurisdiction” 28 USC 1333.
Its really quite simple.....if you cannot fix your car and have to hire someone to fix it for you, suffice to say you are incompetent to fix a car, hence under the direction of the mechanic.
fun!
BUT
the point still remains what good does VOTING THE BUMS OUT DO YA with court systems that operate like this and this barely scratches the surface.
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