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Fuck you, poor: Rethugs the New Social Darwinists - 9/28/2010 1:23:51 PM   
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"John Boehner, the Republican House leader who will become Speaker if Democrats lose control of the House in the upcoming midterms, recently offered his solution to the current economic crisis: “Liquidate labor, liquidate stocks, liquidate the farmer, liquidate real estate. It will purge the rottenness out of the system. People will work harder, lead a more moral life.”
Actually, those weren’t Boehner’s words. They were uttered by Herbert Hoover’s treasury secretary, millionaire industrialist Andrew Mellon, after the Great Crash of 1929.

But they might as well have been Boehner’s because Hoover’s and Mellon’s means of purging the rottenness was by doing exactly what Boehner and his colleagues are now calling for: shrink government, cut the federal deficit, reduce the national debt, and balance the budget.

And we all know what happened after 1929, at least until FDR reversed course.

Boehner and other Republicans would even like to roll back the New Deal and get rid of Barack Obama’s smaller deal health-care law.

The issue isn’t just economic. We’re back to tough love. The basic idea is force people to live with the consequences of whatever happens to them.

In the late 19th century it was called Social Darwinism. Only the fittest should survive, and any effort to save the less fit will undermine the moral fiber of society."
http://www.csmonitor.com/Business/Robert-Reich-s-Blog/2010/0928/Republican-tough-love-economics-Social-Darwinism-for-the-21st-century

Reich, as usual, nails it. The rethugs really do not give a shit about anyone except the white investment class. The older I get, the more I despise fucks like Boner.


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RE: Fuck you, poor: Rethugs the New Social Darwinists - 9/28/2010 1:35:05 PM   
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Yup, the Dems are starting to realize that they're going to get a real fucking beating on November 2 nd.

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RE: Fuck you, poor: Rethugs the New Social Darwinists - 9/28/2010 2:10:04 PM   
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But they might as well have been Boehner’s because Hoover’s and Mellon’s means of purging the rottenness was by doing exactly what Boehner and his colleagues are now calling for: shrink government, cut the federal deficit, reduce the national debt, and balance the budget.




Why dont you try and differentiate between those objectives and what Blowboy claims his objectives are.

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RE: Fuck you, poor: Rethugs the New Social Darwinists - 9/28/2010 3:33:33 PM   
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But they might as well have been Boehner’s because Hoover’s and Mellon’s means of purging the rottenness was by doing exactly what Boehner and his colleagues are now calling for: shrink government, cut the federal deficit, reduce the national debt, and balance the budget.




Why dont you try and differentiate between those objectives and what Blowboy claims his objectives are.


Why don't you try to make at least a token effort at providing some type of substantiation to whatever the hell it is you are talking about instead of offering these sound bites?

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RE: Fuck you, poor: Rethugs the New Social Darwinists - 9/28/2010 3:35:41 PM   
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But they might as well have been Boehner’s because Hoover’s and Mellon’s means of purging the rottenness was by doing exactly what Boehner and his colleagues are now calling for: shrink government, cut the federal deficit, reduce the national debt, and balance the budget.




Why dont you try and differentiate between those objectives and what Blowboy claims his objectives are.


Why don't you try to make at least a token effort at providing some type of substantiation to whatever the hell it is you are talking about instead of offering these soundbites?



Dont be ridiculous, you know fucking damn well that Blowboy has said exactly the same things repeatedly.

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RE: Fuck you, poor: Rethugs the New Social Darwinists - 9/28/2010 3:40:58 PM   
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Dont be ridiculous, you know fucking damn well that Blowboy has said exactly the same things repeatedly.


Except you fucking damn well know that the methods to achieve those goals are far different.

By the way, the Blowboy thing is really classy.



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RE: Fuck you, poor: Rethugs the New Social Darwinists - 9/28/2010 3:44:52 PM   
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Dont be ridiculous, you know fucking damn well that Blowboy has said exactly the same things repeatedly.


Except you fucking damn well know that the methods to achieve those goals are far different.

By the way, the Blowboy thing is really classy.





The OP did not distinguish between goals and methods, it claimed (in conjunction with the title) that those goals are social darwinism.

I could give a shit what a lowlife like you thinks is "classy".

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RE: Fuck you, poor: Rethugs the New Social Darwinists - 9/28/2010 4:00:45 PM   
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Dont be ridiculous, you know fucking damn well that Blowboy has said exactly the same things repeatedly.


Except you fucking damn well know that the methods to achieve those goals are far different.

By the way, the Blowboy thing is really classy.





The OP did not distinguish between goals and objectives, it claimed (in conjunction with the title) that those goals are social darwinism.

I could give a shit what a lowlife like you thinks is "classy".
A goal IS an objective, Gomer. Duh.


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RE: Fuck you, poor: Rethugs the New Social Darwinists - 9/28/2010 4:05:05 PM   
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I could give a shit what a lowlife like you thinks is "classy".


That was classy too Willbeur.

It is so hard to keep up when you are always raising the bar.

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RE: Fuck you, poor: Rethugs the New Social Darwinists - 9/28/2010 4:06:33 PM   
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The basic idea is force people to live with the consequences of whatever happens to them.


There is no other option. In reality, the government can not do much anything at this point. Kill the messenger! 

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RE: Fuck you, poor: Rethugs the New Social Darwinists - 9/28/2010 4:09:06 PM   
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ORIGINAL: willbeurdaddy

Dont be ridiculous, you know fucking damn well that Blowboy has said exactly the same things repeatedly.


Except you fucking damn well know that the methods to achieve those goals are far different.

By the way, the Blowboy thing is really classy.





The OP did not distinguish between goals and objectives, it claimed (in conjunction with the title) that those goals are social darwinism.

I could give a shit what a lowlife like you thinks is "classy".
A goal IS an objective, Gomer. Duh.



Fixed. since I was responding to the RML post you quoted, I was obviously referring to goals and methods not being distinguished in the OP.

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RE: Fuck you, poor: Rethugs the New Social Darwinists - 9/28/2010 4:10:06 PM   
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I could give a shit what a lowlife like you thinks is "classy".


That was classy too Willbeur.

It is so hard to keep up when you are always raising the bar.



Actually it was lowering the bar to get down to your level.

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RE: Fuck you, poor: Rethugs the New Social Darwinists - 9/28/2010 4:10:09 PM   
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RE: Fuck you, poor: Rethugs the New Social Darwinists - 9/28/2010 4:39:00 PM   
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Now, speaking of dumbfuck assinsertions, wasn't there some douchebagger here who tried claiming that anyone who earned $250K was middle class?
"At the top, the wealthiest 5 percent of Americans, who earn more than $180,000, added slightly to their annual incomes last year, the data show. Families at the $50,000 median level slipped lower."

Of course, the Refucklinazis want to take away food stamps. For poor people, eating is an "entitlement" which is evil and morally reprehensible. No Moral Christian white person would ever risk losing Gowadduh's grace by using an entitlement like food stamps.

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RE: Fuck you, poor: Rethugs the New Social Darwinists - 9/28/2010 5:20:52 PM   
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No Moral Christian white person would ever risk losing Gowadduh's grace by using an entitlement like food stamps.

Absolutely not, as should be clear from your original post, which quotes and links to The Christian Science Monitor.

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RE: Fuck you, poor: Rethugs the New Social Darwinists - 9/28/2010 5:30:23 PM   
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No Moral Christian white person would ever risk losing Gowadduh's grace by using an entitlement like food stamps.

Absolutely not, as should be clear from your original post, which quotes and links to The Christian Science Monitor.

K.

You should know by now that I'm much enamored of irony and hyperbole.


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RE: Fuck you, poor: Rethugs the New Social Darwinists - 9/28/2010 5:36:27 PM   
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HK, I just scanned through the bickering and decided to tune it out. To the OP.

Now what was the warning given by the founding Fathers about bankers etc. ? Something like through inflation and deflation people will wake up...... yada yada yada to most. Jefferson or somebody. Now written is a scene that seems to play today, but has been played before. In different ways, means, accomplished banksters merely adapt to different situations. Same plan that worked before works again as long as it is tweaked properly. Really, they might have stumbled on it by accident, and later of course said, hmmm, we did pretty well that way. You wouldn't ? Yes or no ?

Back in the 1770s they knew things like that. Another good reason to limit foreign entanglement, it gets to a point where it is more trouble than it is worth. But the international banks have been around alot longer than this country, maybe not as formal or maybe ISO9002 compliant and all that, but they weren't stupid.

Now note before calling me a crackpot, if you notice in each cycle the rich get richer. It happens again and again and the influence that sustains the oscillations of course is maintained by those with vast enough influence. A rare document I hope I still have equates the economy to an electronic circuit and outlines the details of how to manipulate it. I had trouble connecting it completely but I saw many things that make sense.

In simpler terms, the economy is a machine. Let's use an air pump. A simple squeeze pump. There will be a bellows of some sort, which will supply the "current". The one way check valves at the intake and outlet are effectively rectifiers. That machine will not operate as a pump without being pumped. Metaphorically, if the electronics slant is accepted, the alternator in a car is such a pump. It's output is rectified into a usable form. Anyone who doesn't know should be able to get it really fast on the internet. There is half wave rectification and full wave. My personal analogy to the economy is that they have successfully figured out how to use full wave recification, which is better.

Who is going to own all the houses in a few years ? Who is going to have all the money in a few years ? Now when this happens the people get hungry. It won't be that hungry this time but people are going to be forced to sell themselves short. This destroys the salary base, and people will need and want houses, but to get the houses they must rent the money. Well the rent just went up. I don't care about your numbers, if everything could be adjusted perfectly and weighted proportionally in the perfect formula, the net result would be just how much of a slice of our real wealth are they getting ? Our sweat(shops), blood and tears, LITERALLY.

This is just applied science, something like a skill. If you look at various physical sciences the same basic formulae keep popping up. Such as mass and force, ohms and amps, pressure and volume, all sorts of other things, but tweaked for that particular area of specialization.

If someone could come up with a way to stop these oscillations, which could be considered like putting a shock absorber on a car, they should get a triple peace prize. Something like that. But it has been going on for a very long time. It could almost be said that some find a way to always have the wind at their back. And we will be pumped until we are flapping in the breeze, and then we will rebuild the pump for them.

And history will repeat itself, fortunes will be made and of course the beatings will continue until morale improves.

Show that to your shrink.

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RE: Fuck you, poor: Rethugs the New Social Darwinists - 9/28/2010 5:49:12 PM   
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if you poke em in the side they jump.

if you stimulate one sector others react accordingly.

If you do not the market goes flat and wall street makes no money.

Of course ya'll have a vested interest in keeping that bloated cow alive because ya'll have 401k's that if you factor in the inflation and taxation you realize you are getting so screwed.

Volatility is a good thing!  (if you day trade, run futures etc....)

The rest of ya, well enjoy your fleecing :)


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RE: Fuck you, poor: Rethugs the New Social Darwinists - 9/28/2010 7:17:35 PM   
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"market goes flat and wall street makes no money"

Lookit the brain on Real today. You do have a purpose, you can understand insanity. And the situation is insane. It's just not recognized as such because we are all used to it, we were born into it. Objectivity is lacking in many senses, not just this one.

Just had to add (edit) - Don't you think they knew full fucking well that they were loaning out way too much money ? Don't you think they knew exactly what they were doing ? Don't you think that they knew damn well what was bound to happen ? That's what I meant by sustaining the oscillation.

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RE: Fuck you, poor: Rethugs the New Social Darwinists - 9/28/2010 7:57:25 PM   
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quote:

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Dont be ridiculous, you know fucking damn well that Blowboy has said exactly the same things repeatedly.


Except you fucking damn well know that the methods to achieve those goals are far different.

By the way, the Blowboy thing is really classy.





I think the blowboy comments are very helpful. I see that in a post and I know I can skip the post without missing anything. Saves all kinds of time when I am reading the forums.


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