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RE: Keeping Seperate Homes - 4/24/2006 8:31:29 PM   
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But is it truly necessary to live 24/7 to have a true and strong D/s relationship?..I am not talkiing LDR..I am just simply wondering about R/L, homes close but just simply two seperate households? Does this truly compromise a D/s or even M/s relationship?..tempting


Thanks Tempting... that's sort of what I was asking as well. Living in the same town.. hell less than a mile apart... is it really necessary to combine both homes? The only LDR involved would be him working outta town all the time.


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RE: Keeping Seperate Homes - 4/24/2006 8:55:05 PM   
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Your welcome true...I wasnt sure if this is what you were asking..but I certainly was curious for my own edification as well..so I am glad I did not hijack your thread..:0)...tempting...

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RE: Keeping Seperate Homes - 4/24/2006 11:46:15 PM   
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True...True...True....You touch on a topic that has been much on my mind lately.  So I wrote my thoughts down in a Word document to sort them.  Now if I can just condense my 1000 word essay to a more "forum-appropriate" size, I will post it.

Stay tuned...

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RE: Keeping Seperate Homes - 4/25/2006 12:25:24 AM   
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Okay, True, you're going to make me think tonight.  Oddly enough, after this past week I was thinking along some very close lines here, and was thinking of writing about it.  So I'll use your thread to do that.  Bear with me, this got lengthy, and probably ventured off topic a bit, but hopefully it speaks to your point…hopefully…lol.

I have been learning, growing and developing with my Master for about 2 years now.  From the first conversation, I was drawn...and the bond has only become stronger.  And yet, we have all these obstacles between us, which would cause many people to say we could never work.  But still, we have managed to connect at a level I did not know existed.  He wanted to know things about me - personal things, but I also wanted to share them.  Never before had I wanted to let someone IN so much.  As I shared my thoughts and feelings daily, he learned all about me- how I processed thoughts, how I ticked, what sets me off, what makes me melt, what makes me laugh...  He learned every part of me – and mostly by phone and letter.  We have spoken nearly every day, even if just a brief note in IM.  Even with our distance, he has reached into my soul, and shown me me

Along the way, he taught me not only basic lessons, but lessons that were extremely hard to learn.  He taught me to be strong, and self reliant, and independent (I had temporarily lost those traits in my marriage).  He taught me to value myself, and speak for myself, and to not let anyone put me down.  Some of those lessons in finding my own strength nearly brought me to my knees.  But he knew I would get it.  He knew I would rise up.  He does not coddle me.  He does not treat me like a princess.  He his not always very tender.  He is turning me into someone who will thrive and be strong in the event of his passing.

I know this is a really longgggggg way of leading up to my point here.  I see my Master one or two weekends a month.  Sometimes it is for the weekend. Sometimes just for the day, or a few hours, or even a few minutes.  Every time I see him, I am ecstatic and slightly nervous.  It is true I wish I could see him more.  We have discussed moving me closer to him, but I am close to my elderly parents and my Dad is quite ill.  So I stay put. Meanwhile, through the use of modern technology, he generally knows where I am, what I am doing, and who I am with…and always my thoughts and feelings.  He knows almost as much about me as if we lived together.  How many times have I heard LDRs are not really "real?" But the thing is, Master is always with me.  Always.  We are connected. This is very, very real. 


Master knows I do or don't do what is required because he knows I must.  Serving him is the core of who I am.  To do otherwise would compromise us, and deny us who I am, and I would not dare do that. Because he knows me so well, he knows that about me.

Last Tuesday at 1am I had a serious family emergency involving my Dad. He would be in the hospital all week. That same morning, at 6am, Master was boarding a plane across the country for a business trip.  I left him a voicemail of what was going on.

Was he there for me?  Every step of the way.  Did he need to be physically present to do so?  No, he didn't.  I felt him.  He guided me.  He contacted me, and I reported to him what was going on. He reminded me of my strength, and I drew from him.  All of those difficult lessons my Master had taught me - to be a pillar of strength for my family, to be strong for myself, to do the right thing...everything came together.  I realized my Master is always there for me.  No matter if he is in the same room, or across the country.  I can rely on that, and he can rely on me to do what he expects of me, be it as small as writing a paragraph about something, or as large as holding my family together while spending every night in my Dad's hospital room.

 
I know this is a really long journal here, and I apologize for all the words.  I wrote all of this in an attempt to show that two people (or more) can indeed have an intense bond (M/s, D/s, or otherwise) whether they share a home or not.  While I most certainly do not intend to demean those who share a home, I am a firm believer that a relationship and all it gives and creates has nothing to do with proximity and everything to do with the people involved.  I was in a marriage for 17 years, after all, and had nowhere close the bond I have now, with a man I live 2 hours from.

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RE: Keeping Seperate Homes - 4/25/2006 4:43:44 AM   
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ORIGINAL: TemptingNviceSub

But is it truly necessary to live 24/7 to have a true and strong D/s relationship?..I am not talkiing LDR..I am just simply wondering about R/L, homes close but just simply two seperate households? Does this truly compromise a D/s or even M/s relationship?..tempting


Thanks Tempting... that's sort of what I was asking as well. Living in the same town.. hell less than a mile apart... is it really necessary to combine both homes? The only LDR involved would be him working outta town all the time.



seperate homes wont compromise, no, but i believe living together would make a M/s relationship a helluva lot stronger.

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RE: Keeping Seperate Homes - 4/25/2006 5:41:44 AM   
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((((((((((((OWNED))))))))))))))))) thank you sweetie.... nicely put together and felt from the heart. You like me sometimes... like to take the scenic route to get to our point... and sometimes the scenic route is so pretty. My prayers go to you and your family and hope your dad gets stronger. I understand that portion of your situation..... living within 15 miles of my mom and dad.... mom who thanks to diabeties is now legally blind. I'm always here for them when they need me... sometimes in the way when they don't. <smiles>  Your post is really helpful with thoughts. With advise. Senserity.... passion.... love... for your Master. I may not have always agreed with your post about your M/s ways.... but one thing I can say... i've never doubted your love and the devotion that you have shared as you did with this post. I made a copy of this to show to the one I speak of.

Knowing a strong bond is there... but doesn't really need to be under the same roof.  I wondered at one time if I envied ones that could do this.... I now know envy was not what I was feeling. It was understanding that I am not the only one to feel this way. It's nice to know there's a goal.... to be together.... but it's not a must right off the bat.

Mixielicous ..... I think now... after reading post... and thinking on this subject..... that if a bond is strong enough to survive seperation.... i agree with you... it can only get stronger... once united under the same roof.

Thanks all... lots to think about... lots to talk about..... you all are a great lot to be able to come to... and help get direction.....  and understanding more on things....I you all... thanks again


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RE: Keeping Seperate Homes - 4/25/2006 2:03:25 PM   
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i think Tikkiee said it best about a partnership cause that is really what it is.  you share everything and responsibilty.
but thats just my view

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RE: Keeping Seperate Homes - 4/25/2006 4:54:51 PM   
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I really liked your post. You showed me i'm not alone in my issues of sharing myself fully after being alone for so long.


It isn't so much that I have a problem with sharing myself fully because I do that now.  There isn't anything that he wants to know that he doesn't know.  It's more the mechanics of living there that cause concerns.  The little things like where are all my books going to go, what do I do with my furniture, how will the cats like living with so many other people, how do I go about carving out a space just for me and many other little things like that.  Then there is the biggest concern for me, how do I get private time or a little peace and quiet?  For me, it is only private time if there is no one else in the house.  I find that I do not get as much benefit if I am alone in a room with others still in the house, plus my Lord's house is a very noisey house.  Many different concerns that we will all work through and grow closer together is solving them all.

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RE: Keeping Seperate Homes - 4/25/2006 4:59:48 PM   
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The little things like where are all my books going to go,


I was thinking we could have a nice bon fire with a good group of friends while eating vanilla ice cream cones.

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RE: Keeping Seperate Homes - 4/25/2006 7:54:59 PM   
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LMAO>...... KoM you're mean!...

Kyra what I ment was...... by leaving your aloneness behind. I've lived alone for so long... giving this up.. will be hard... if it's ment to be.. it will be work through. I have the same problems you have... with my books... my stuff... my alone time... space.. but i'm the one bringing the noise....(Teens... lol).. he's not. Why any man would want to take on a single mother with TEENAGERS.. I sometimes worry about his mental state... because I know teens wear thin on my mental being... LMAO. I do have the utmost respect for ones that do take in familes... not just single people...... you will be in for a full time treat i'm sure... should be loads of fun for all.


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RE: Keeping Seperate Homes - 4/26/2006 5:25:22 AM   
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aha
fate has done a case of getting what you need when you need it
thanks folks

wishing all well

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RE: Keeping Seperate Homes - 4/26/2006 5:54:22 AM   
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See I'm wondering what we're going to do with 2 microwaves...

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RE: Keeping Seperate Homes - 4/26/2006 6:13:19 AM   
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See I'm wondering what we're going to do with 2 microwaves...


I bet this is how e-bay started.

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RE: Keeping Seperate Homes - 4/26/2006 10:27:30 AM   
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LOL... you very well maybe right... on line garage sale... 

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RE: Keeping Seperate Homes - 4/26/2006 2:25:54 PM   
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Greetings,

This is very very difficult, all in all and all the way around. Myself being an Owner and working seasonally in another state becomes really tough. Let me just say "Alltell" and a shared phoneplan with unlimited mobile to mobile minutes are your friend! Me and Rokarr got this early in our relationship, and it has been a lifesaver. Sadly, there is much that cannot be done when you are not face to face. Chastity is a good help because it helps with the "submissive" feelings and gives him a reminder of my control when not with me -- and daily if not several times a day of checking up as needed.

Things will be much easier when I have to be away when there will be more of a household on a physical sense. One or two left alone is never a good idea.

Haya Sierra ---

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RE: Keeping Seperate Homes - 4/26/2006 2:36:02 PM   
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You are correct about TODAYS phone plans... when I was refer to former Master... there wasn't no phone plans like their are today. It was called collect calls... possible phone cards... and 1-800 numbers... that was damn near as expensive. Today being able to maintain long distance relationships are easier.. compared to 10+ years ago.

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